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#1: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:40 am
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OK, its 7 miles to work. I got three quarters of the way when my car started to sound like a diesel! The car really struggled and power was inconsistant. It was jerking alot.
On my guages the oil temp on the right was way above the red and the water temp guage on the rev counter didnt know what it was doing. It was up and down constantly.

I got to work and opened the bonnet with the engione running to see what it was doing. It kept dropping revs and just before it was about to stall it picked up revs again and did this every 5 or so seconds. I turned the engine off and there was smoke coming from both the expansion bottle lid and the rocker cover gasket.

Any ideas? :S

#2: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:43 am
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Got enough oil & coolant?

#3: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:45 am
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I topped the oil up on Friday and the coolant yesterday. I do have to top the coolant up every week or so though, and i did a 260 mile road trip yesterday.

Does it just sound like a coolant issue?

#4: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Seabook PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:51 am
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top up oil and coolant is never a good sign.

i bet on head gasket

#5: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:55 am
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well the car hasnt been serviced for a long time and the oil was down to half way between the notches on the dipstick.

The coolant I have a lot of problems with, sometimes its absolutely fine and other times there's just no coolant. I know my fan is a bit intermitant, so i just thought it would be that.

#6: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;) PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:57 am
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Seabook wrote:
top up oil and coolant is never a good sign.

i bet on head gasket

What He Said

#7: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Seabook PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:21 am
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drain the oil and coolant see if you can find anything interesting? i never need to topup anything between serivce apart from windscreen liquid Laughing

time to save up to get a new head i guess?

#8: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:06 am
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Seabook wrote:
drain the oil and coolant see if you can find anything interesting? i never need to topup anything between serivce apart from windscreen liquid Laughing

time to save up to get a new head i guess?

Sad I've only had this engine for about 4 months Sad

#9: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:32 am
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What would I find in the oil? there's no foamy stuff when I take the oil cap off.

#10: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: MrrNoName, Location: UK PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:37 am
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sounds to me like it could be the beginning of major head gasket failure, got any mayo on the expansion or block, dip stick tube, etc?

also *smoke or *steam?

#11: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: AX-Rated, Location: Swansea, Wales PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:40 am
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It doesn't have to be the usual oil mixed with water symptoms for a HG to go.

With the 3 ways close together, there's a few combinations for HG failure.

But one things for sure:
your water is going somewhere at an alarming rate,
and its running like a dog.

Whats the mileage on it?

#12: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:41 am
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MrrNoName wrote:
sounds to me like it could be the beginning of major head gasket failure, got any mayo on the expansion or block, dip stick tube, etc?

also *smoke or *steam?

No there's no mayo stuff anywhere. And Ive only had steam from the rocker today and I get steam from the expansion bottle if I forget to top the coolant up and drive for a long length of time.

#13: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:42 am
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AX-Rated wrote:
It doesn't have to be the usual oil mixed with water symptoms for a HG to go.

With the 3 ways close together, there's a few combinations for HG failure.

But one things for sure:
your water is going somewhere at an alarming rate,
and its running like a dog.

Whats the mileage on it?

its about around 80k. I dont know for sure as my mileometer doesnt work, but, the engine had 76k when I got it about 4-5 months ago.

#14: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: MrrNoName, Location: UK PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:46 am
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It shouldnt be loosing coolant like it is, if there is no leak from pipes, matrix, rad etc then it must be entering the engine and being evaporated, either into the sump or out through the exhaust.

there's nowhere else it can go, and because you said you got steam from the rocker cover (which you should not get) then it looks like water is getting into where oil goes, indicating HG failure.

do you get steam from your exhaust?

#15: Re: Oil temp, Water temp. Tractor noises. URGH!!!! Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:13 am
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MrrNoName wrote:
It shouldnt be loosing coolant like it is, if there is no leak from pipes, matrix, rad etc then it must be entering the engine and being evaporated, either into the sump or out through the exhaust.

there's nowhere else it can go, and because you said you got steam from the rocker cover (which you should not get) then it looks like water is getting into where oil goes, indicating HG failure.

do you get steam from your exhaust?

I did...

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