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Difference with HDI model's
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#1: Difference with HDI model's Author: brimbo, Location: South Shields PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:22 pm
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I'll probably be eaten alive for this, but what is the difference with HDI models, and non-HDI models?

#2: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: cartoonhead, Location: North Manchester PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:25 pm
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do you mean the differance between the likes of the 2.0 hdi and 1.9 td ?

#3: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: brimbo, Location: South Shields PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:31 pm
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Like the difference between a 1.4, and a 1.4 HDI, just in difference the HDI models. I haven't had much luck on the internet with it, far as ive seen, HDI models are partly made in england..

#4: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: MRyan89, Location: Home: Fleet, Hampshire, Uni: Portsmouth! PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:41 pm
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HDIs are turbo diesel models, in a 1.4, 1.6 or 2.0 sized engine. Alternatively in older 206s you can get a non turbo 1.9 diesel which is slower than the lot and a bit old fashioned!

#5: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: Antknee, Location: Manchester PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:47 pm
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the hdi has no spark plugs as the furl combusts under pressure, it has a turbocharger and it is quite a lot heavier than the equivalent petrol model

#6: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: brimbo, Location: South Shields PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:47 pm
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So say, in the 1.4 model, is there a massive difference in BHP from the regular petrol 1.4? looking on auto trader all the specifications look very similar, bar MPG

#7: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: Will180, Location: Newcastle PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:52 pm
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well the 1.4 hdi is a turbo diesel 68bhp . apposed to your 1.4 which is a petrol 75bhp model

#8: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: Antknee, Location: Manchester PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:52 pm
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Im not sure but as standard, but the 1.4 hdi is 70 but can be easily remapped, intercooled and decatted to give 100+ whereas its more difficult to tune the petrol 1.4

#9: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: Will180, Location: Newcastle PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:53 pm
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you could most likely remap the 1.4 diesel to around 75-80 bhp tho.

#10: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: tomd0801754, Location: Moscow PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:03 pm
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Ones diesel, ones petrol.

#11: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: LeeThr, Location: North West Wales PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:38 pm
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tomd0801754 wrote:
Ones diesel, ones petrol.

Nuff said Cool

#12: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: Andy180, Location: Stoke on Trent PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:42 am
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you could most likely remap the 1.4 diesel to around 75-80 bhp tho
More like 90-95.

#13: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:49 am
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If you stick a massive exhaust on a diesel it doesn't sound like you are doing 100mph when you are actually doing 20mph, like it does with a petrol

#14: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: DJ-, Location: UK PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:52 am
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Lee wrote:
If you stick a massive exhaust on a diesel it doesn't sound like you are doing 100mph when you are actually doing 20mph, like it does with a petrol

is this a good or bad thing? Laughing Embarassed

haha!

#15: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: Will180, Location: Newcastle PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:17 am
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Andy180 wrote:
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you could most likely remap the 1.4 diesel to around 75-80 bhp tho
More like 90-95.

really? i thought since you only gain like 30 bhp from remapping the 2.0hdi youd get less from the 1.4

#16: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:51 am
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brimbo wrote:
I'll probably be eaten alive for this, but what is the difference with HDI models, and non-HDI models?

If you want a HDI powered 206 always go for the 2.0 version, there virtually bulletproof reliability.

The 1.4 is gutless & not that reliable, the 1.6 is much worse, its like having a hand grenade in your pocket with the pin removed Laughing

#17: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: Andy180, Location: Stoke on Trent PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:48 pm
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really? i thought since you only gain like 30 bhp from remapping the 2.0hdi youd get less from the 1.4
nope they remap up to 90bhp or slightly more quite nippy once theyve been mapped up. Mr Bsi why do you say the 1.4 hdi is unreliable ? .

#18: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: Antknee, Location: Manchester PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:31 pm
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My 1.4 has been fine lol had it for over 2 years... only problems i've had is an earthing problem, coolant hose problem and cambelt tensioner broke because i didnt get it changed at the recommended interval

#19: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: jimblonduk, Location: Tamworth PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:49 pm
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Doing a comparison from Parkers ...

1.4 s 3d AC = 44mpg, VED F (£130 per year)

1.4hdi s 3d = 65mpg, VED C (£30 per year)

Hope that helps


Gary

#20: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: pug206lx, Location: Taking a gearbox off somewhere PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:36 pm
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That £30 per year road tax is an added benefit...

#21: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: MRyan89, Location: Home: Fleet, Hampshire, Uni: Portsmouth! PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:23 am
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Yeah likewise, had the 1.4 hdi for 5 years and its been solid! Taken 73000 miles of me ragging it and still feels like new haha also did bordeaux to fleet in Hampshire on a single tank of fuel

#22: Re: Difference with HDI model's Author: adsayer, Location: Northallerton PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:39 am
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We did some calcs before getting the 1.4 HDi (coming from a 1.1) and we reckoned we'd get savings of about £800 Inc the tax. Plus it's a lot nippier.



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