#1: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:27 am ---- What am i looking at doing if my rear Axle needs replacing because of a nackered bearing on one side ? Am i best reconditioning or scrappy ? Plus what kind of labour is involved my MOts months away but will it need doing ASAP ? (206 GTI)
#2: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:34 am ---- not hard to DIY.... average mechanical knowledge
#3: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:37 am ---- Well it looks a real pig of a job and ive only got axle stands, what is the rear axle attached 2 ?
#4: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:50 am ----
Linkpad wrote:
Well it looks a real pig of a job and ive only got axle stands, what is the rear axle attached 2 ?
Bolted on to the body shell via 4 mounts.
Remember to disconnect the handbrake cables, abs sensors connectors & hydraulic brake pipes if your dropping the complete unit.
#5: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:58 am ---- OK cheers just the right tools and plugging those brake pipes, Is there any risk of my wheels falling off if its worn on one side on the bearing and there's a little bit of play ? I can hear a clonking noise at low speeds... Just my MOT is ages away !!
#6: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:06 pm ---- You normally need torx sockets for the axle mount bolts.
I would take it steady until its fixed, the wheel wont come of but the trailing arm will be a little loose, dont leave replacing the bearings to long as they will start to chew in to the rear beam & then you end up needing to spend more money fixing it OR even replacing the complete rear axle!
#7: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:08 pm ---- Maybe i could just replace the 1 Bearing as a temp Fix is it tricky ? least it would stop wearing the axle on that side...
#8: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:10 pm ---- I did a few hundred miles and 2 trackdays with no bearing left in either side. I wouldn't worry mate. Nothing going to fall off
#9: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:14 pm ---- Yeah bloody annoying noise though and plus my tyres are unevenly wearing its only for the MOT really tbh which is 5 Months away...
#10: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:16 pm ---- Well there selling the repair kit on ebay now, think it's £50 a side. However i got mine done by a guy off here, but i bought another rear axle, had that overhauled with new ...everything, then fitted. cost a fortune but at least i know its pukka.
#11: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:24 pm ---- Nice ok, not worht spending loads on it, i will have a look at refurb...
#12: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: A18NHH, Location: MiddlesbroughPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:43 pm ---- I bought an axle from eBay for £200 and labour was £150 to have it fitted
#13: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: kieron, Location: in the housePosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:40 pm ---- Hours job to replace the bearing in the axel, rather do it than the whole axel and its cheaper and the kit was only be 40 quid
#14: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:47 am ---- Yeah its just up Halfords they said the pins were wearing the Axel itself so maybe beyond repair ?
#15: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:51 am ---- Careful buying replacement axles or trying to replace the bearings in yours as the shaft that the axle 'bushes' (actually bearings) fits on is usually damaged when the old bearing fails. So even if you put new bearings on it they will fail pretty quickly
#16: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:12 am ----
D4NTP wrote:
Careful buying replacement axles or trying to replace the bearings in yours as the shaft that the axle 'bushes' (actually bearings) fits on is usually damaged when the old bearing fails. So even if you put new bearings on it they will fail pretty quickly
If you see any markings / imprints on the shaft from the needle rollers then dont reasembly as those nice new bearings wont last very long.
#17: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:32 am ---- My aswell replace whole axle then ! Trouble is i will have to wait for at least 4-6 weeks for those funds and that rear end noise is making me crazy !! Should i just avoid bumps and speed for the time being ?
#18: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:35 am ---- put up with it till funds arrive
#19: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:44 am ---- What kind of labour charge is involved with a axle replacement ? I reckon 3 hours ? No way i doing it myself without having the car raised...
#20: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:47 am ---- Its not hard..... 4 bolts and a few pipes.... a replacement exchange axle is the dear bit
#21: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:57 am ---- yeah and getting it there... Reconditioning is probs best route. Its not the bolts im worried about its the removing the exhaust system and taking the brake cables off is bit problematic im sure some recon site would fit them for u ?
#22: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Seabook, Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:01 pm ---- any garage can fit that easily.
#23: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:20 pm ---- Yeah thanks for the help if anyone knows any good dealers with axles feel free to share but thanks again !
#24: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:49 am ---- Does anyone know if u have to disconnect the brake pipes to get the rear axle out i looked underneath today and the cables ran to the caliper in fron of the axle itself so i shouldnt need to take out cables just the exhaust ? And how heavy is ure typical rear axle ?
#25: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:58 am ---- you have to disconnect the brake pipe of couse....
and the handbrake cable too.
you know the brake pipe is connect to the (calipers->arm->axle) and to the front brake servo?
think the axle itself is roughly 20 kg and each arm+brake disc+caliper+hub is around 10-15 kg?
#26: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:02 pm ---- AH ok so a 40kg lump roughly, how hard is it to plug the brakes up and what did u use ? The handbrake cable looks easy to loosen. Maybe i should jack support the axle and lower...
AH ok so a 40kg lump roughly, how hard is it to plug the brakes up and what did u use ? The handbrake cable looks easy to loosen. Maybe i should jack support the axle and lower...
don't think the brake hose is just plugged in?
the metal fare brake hose ( the end which connected to the rear calipers) should be fixed by a hex nut. (somthing between 11mm and 13mm)
#28: Re: Rear Axle Replacment Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:12 pm ---- So once u undo the hex night the brake fluid seals off ? I Always thought ud have to use something to plug the pipes to stop Brake fluid going everywhere ?
So once u undo the hex night the brake fluid seals off?
Nope the end of the pipe will be open, but fluid wont come rushing out it will drip, you will have to bleed the brakes afterwards, id get some fresh fluid & bleed all 4 corners.
Id use the correct sized flare spanner on brake pipes, normal open ended spanners can end up causing you issues if it chews the hex of the pipe fittings up.
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