#16: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:13 am ---- The ESP system controls:
Each individual brake
&
The throttle
Technically the 206 doesn't have a stand alone traction control system, its a marketing gimmick, the ESP system does the traction control function.
#17: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:23 am ----
Barking wrote:
ESP, it can't 'control' the throttle or brakes [that's the driver's job]
It does control the brakes.
#18: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: bisphenol-a, Location: AntarcticaPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:06 pm ---- that explains alot why it blinked
i'll turn it off when i wanna do sprints but i'll leave it on for any other normal driving
Technically the 206 doesn't have a stand alone traction control system, its a marketing gimmick, the ESP system does the traction control function.
I thought that EBFD or whatever does the braking (with the ABS) and not the ESP traction control
#20: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:26 pm ----
Barking wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
The ESP system controls:
Each individual brake
&
The throttle
Technically the 206 doesn't have a stand alone traction control system, its a marketing gimmick, the ESP system does the traction control function.
I thought that EBFD or whatever does the braking (with the ABS) and not the ESP traction control
EBFD ( Electronic Brake Force Distribution ) just replaces the rear brake compensator valve.
Cars with EBFD dont have the mechanical rear brake compensator valve fitted as the EBFD is built in to the ABS hydraulic modulator under the bonnet.
ESP on the other hand controls all 4 individual brakes & also the throttle.
#21: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: WilkyGTi, Location: Cumbria, UKPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:29 pm ---- The ESP controls both the throttle and the brakes, if your in a straight line and it detects wheelspin then it will kill the power, no need for brakes. On the other hand if it detects oversteer it will apply brakes to which ever wheel(s) is needed to correct the "manouver". I've experienced this in my mates Focus ST and i'm impressed with it, yes it takes away the thrill of driving but its also a safe way of finding the limit of your car!
#22: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:30 pm ---- New Focus you cant even turn the ESP completely off
#23: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:32 pm ---- Basically just leave it on, unless
A. Your on Track.
B. Need to accelerate quickly.
#24: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:33 pm ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
Basically just leave it on, unless
A. Your on Track.
B. Need to accelerate quickly.
C. Your stuck in snow & trying to spin the wheels free
Technically the 206 doesn't have a stand alone traction control system, its a marketing gimmick, the ESP system does the traction control function.
I thought that EBFD or whatever does the braking (with the ABS) and not the ESP traction control
EBFD ( Electronic Brake Force Distribution ) just replaces the rear brake compensator valve.
Cars with EBFD dont have the mechanical rear brake compensator valve fitted as the EBFD is built in to the ABS hydraulic modulator under the bonnet.
ESP on the other hand controls all 4 individual brakes & also the throttle.
okay - I kind of understand that - did I mean EBA? (ps: I don't have a manual LOL)
#26: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: WilkyGTi, Location: Cumbria, UKPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:34 pm ---- Like a lot of cars, it tells you it's off but it probs isn't! lol
#27: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:37 pm ----
Barking wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Barking wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
The ESP system controls:
Each individual brake
&
The throttle
Technically the 206 doesn't have a stand alone traction control system, its a marketing gimmick, the ESP system does the traction control function.
I thought that EBFD or whatever does the braking (with the ABS) and not the ESP traction control
EBFD ( Electronic Brake Force Distribution ) just replaces the rear brake compensator valve.
Cars with EBFD dont have the mechanical rear brake compensator valve fitted as the EBFD is built in to the ABS hydraulic modulator under the bonnet.
ESP on the other hand controls all 4 individual brakes & also the throttle.
okay - I kind of understand that - did I mean EBA? (ps: I don't have a manual LOL)
#28: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:40 pm ----
WilkyGTi wrote:
Like a lot of cars, it tells you it's off but it probs isn't! lol
I saw a Fifth gear test of the new Focus & Tiff was moaning about not being able to turn the ESP fully off
Ive driven 2 different cars with ESP fitted.
Mk 5 Golf = brilliant ESP system, you can have fun.
Astra mk 5 = crap ESP system, its far to lazy to cut in & lets the car get seriously out of shape before it wakes up & tries to help out.
#29: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: WilkyGTi, Location: Cumbria, UKPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:47 pm ---- Have a look at the 5th Gear in that Mclaren Sports car lol, it catches Tiff out!
#30: Re: ESP lights blinked Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:55 pm ----
WilkyGTi wrote:
Have a look at the 5th Gear in that Mclaren Sports car lol, it catches Tiff out!
Just watched it, he was busy with that steering wheel & not in a good way
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