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#1: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: jaypug206, Location: London PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:51 am
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Got my MOT done last week on friday and the guy said your wheels need aligning, but he doesnt do it.

The wheels I had on the car on mot was steel wheels, 175/65/14 so I thought I'm picking up some original peugeot alloys on sunday size 175/65/14 which are exact same size as my original steel wheels.

So on saturday I went from London to Manchester and back on same day and didnt realise anything wrong with my steering. So on sunday when I got time I put the alloys on the car. Everything was fine, recalling back to sunday nothing was wrong with steering.

Monday afternoon when down to National Tyres as they have a special offer £15 for wheel alignment then on tuesday I realised you have to hold the steering abit to the right to go straight, if you hold the wheel straight sways to the left. I'm not sure it wasnt like that before.

So I took it back today to National tyres they checked it altered it slighty and said it was fine, so I went round the block it was the same thing, swaying to left, he was like well it wont be exactly bang on but I'm pretty sure it wasnt like that when I gave it in.

Someone else said to swap the front 2 tyres around, but surely if that works that just a quick fix and not a proper solution??? Question

Sorry for the long story but could anyone please help as it is very annoying! Question :?:

#2: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:55 am
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they are talking about S***; get them to re-do the tracking.

#3: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: jaypug206, Location: London PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:05 am
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They did re-do it and then I wasn't happy about it he said it wont be exactly bang on lol.

He said the wheels are straight but I'm like well the steering wheel are not parallel to the wheels cause otherwise they would match.

Also he said its the camber of the road would make the car sway but I was like your driving in the middle, so it should not pull either way and if it did shouldnt it go right and left not always towards the left.

Also he said if you want to get it done somewhere else and it's fine he'll refund my money, i will do that as he taking the p*** but just wondered if anyone else knew if it could be anything else causing this problem.

Thanks.

#4: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:24 am
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Seabook wrote:
they are talking about S***; get them to re-do the tracking.

What He Said

Find somewhere that knows how to track a car up correctly, not just throw the gauges on & bodge it.

#5: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: muzzy78, Location: Leicester PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:07 pm
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MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:
they are talking about S***; get them to re-do the tracking.

What He Said

Find somewhere that knows how to track a car up correctly, not just throw the gauges on & bodge it.

What He Said What He Said

#6: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:32 pm
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unless you bent the wishbone or track rod end.

otherwise 206 tracking is deadly easy to do

#7: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:33 pm
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jaypug206 wrote:
They did re-do it and then I wasn't happy about it he said it wont be exactly bang on lol.

He said the wheels are straight but I'm like well the steering wheel are not parallel to the wheels cause otherwise they would match.

Also he said its the camber of the road would make the car sway but I was like your driving in the middle, so it should not pull either way and if it did shouldnt it go right and left not always towards the left.

Also he said if you want to get it done somewhere else and it's fine he'll refund my money, i will do that as he taking the p*** but just wondered if anyone else knew if it could be anything else causing this problem.

Thanks.

then get the money and go some where else to do it.

my tracking was spot on; and don't even need special equippment to do it Laughing

#8: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: panzer360gti, Location: UK PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:49 pm
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are your wheels straight in the other sense, ie. measure the distance from the wheel arch to your tyre on each side, one wheel might be further forward than the other, it is on mine, fractionally, cant remember what they call it..

#9: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:54 pm
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panzer360gti wrote:
are your wheels straight in the other sense, ie. measure the distance from the wheel arch to your tyre on each side, one wheel might be further forward than the other, it is on mine, fractionally, cant remember what they call it..

i don't know what are you talking about.

but before doing the tracking they have to straight up the steering wheel first; and then they measure the amount of toe and then adjust the track rod accordingly to get it correct.

if everything is working as it should, you don't even need any special equippment to get the toe correct as the amount of thread left on the trackrod define the amount of toe.

#10: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:57 pm
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Laser rig or forget it.

#11: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:47 am
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V9977 wrote:
Laser rig or forget it.

Most garages in the UK use laser rigs BUT most places just bodge it by throwing the gauges on & adjusting the front wheels up.

Unless the person takes there time & does the tracking correctly a laser rig is just for show Wink

#12: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: Seabook PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:10 am
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MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Laser rig or forget it.

Most garages in the UK use laser rigs BUT most places just bodge it by throwing the gauges on & adjusting the front wheels up.

Unless the person takes there time & does the tracking correctly a laser rig is just for show Wink

and 206 is easy enough to do the tracking Laughing most thing are fixed anyway Laughing

laser rigs is a waste Laughing

#13: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:10 am
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Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Laser rig or forget it.

Most garages in the UK use laser rigs BUT most places just bodge it by throwing the gauges on & adjusting the front wheels up.

Unless the person takes there time & does the tracking correctly a laser rig is just for show Wink

and 206 is easy enough to do the tracking Laughing most thing are fixed anyway Laughing

laser rigs is a waste Laughing

It goes without saying that the person doing the job shouldn't just bodge it, laser or not.

However, depending on the actual state of the car (206) it can be more or less difficult to align,
even though tracking is only adjustable.

I don't believe looking at the bare thread you could get it anywhere near right.
Remember the steering-wheel could be 12 o'clock and car going straight and
tracking can still be way out making the handling dangerous and eating-up tires.

Laser instrumentation makes it easier to get an accurate result, and is nothing fancy nowadays anyway.

#14: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: panzer360gti, Location: UK PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:58 am
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Seabook wrote:
panzer360gti wrote:
are your wheels straight in the other sense, ie. measure the distance from the wheel arch to your tyre on each side, one wheel might be further forward than the other, it is on mine, fractionally, cant remember what they call it..

i don't know what are you talking about.

but before doing the tracking they have to straight up the steering wheel first; and then they measure the amount of toe and then adjust the track rod accordingly to get it correct.

if everything is working as it should, you don't even need any special equippment to get the toe correct as the amount of thread left on the trackrod define the amount of toe.

Camber/Caster and Toe, google it.

#15: Re: Wheel Tracking/Alignment Author: Seabook PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:59 am
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panzer360gti wrote:
Seabook wrote:
panzer360gti wrote:
are your wheels straight in the other sense, ie. measure the distance from the wheel arch to your tyre on each side, one wheel might be further forward than the other, it is on mine, fractionally, cant remember what they call it..

i don't know what are you talking about.

but before doing the tracking they have to straight up the steering wheel first; and then they measure the amount of toe and then adjust the track rod accordingly to get it correct.

if everything is working as it should, you don't even need any special equippment to get the toe correct as the amount of thread left on the trackrod define the amount of toe.

Camber/Caster and Toe, google it.

camber and caster is fixed on 206



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