#1: Key programming help, please... Author: elted, Location: DublinPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:55 am ---- OK, got car with only one key (not remote). Bought secondhand one off ebay. Changed transponder, cut new blade, car starts, great.
Have PP, went through key learning procedure, ok. cannot get remote to work. Checked the circuit board in remote, it is 73373067c which is the wrong one as I have fogs. But as I only have one key I can change the key type in PP, still doesn't work. Tested the battery, was ok, changed it anyway, still no joy. Professional help now required. Is there any way to test if the remote is actually emitting a signal?
Help please.
#2: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:13 am ---- Don't know where you got the link between the circuit board and fogs from. Mines a C and has fogs and works fine, I know someone with a B and fogs and thats fine too.
There is a gizmo for checking the signal emitted. The dealer or local auto locksmith will have one.
#3: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: elted, Location: DublinPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:19 am ---- Thanks mate. In Peugeot Planet they distingush between different keys by, if the car has front fogs (factory) or not.
#4: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:45 am ---- I think you need to do some more research...
73373067c,73373067b and 73373067d are all fitted to cars with fogs (and thats just those three types of circuit board, there are at least two more for a multiplexed 206)
#5: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: elted, Location: DublinPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:11 am ---- Thanks Lee,
So I have the right board afterall, am I missing something in programming with PP? I select the key type the options are:
Previous type without fogs
Previous type with fogs
New type wo fogs
New type with fogs.
It says new type was introduced in 2006, so mine being 2004 it's the previous type.
I then go to setup the new key, it asks for 4 digit code, then says take key out, put new key in, then learns key. All ok. After it learns the key, it gives me a screen that instructs how to programme the remote. Tried a hundred times, no joy.
Lee, am I missing some vital part? I'm new with Peugeot Planet.
Many thanks
#6: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:58 am ---- If the key definatly works, then its the wrong key for your central locking system.
There are at least 5 for a multiplexed 206, and 3 for a non-plexed 206
#7: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: elted, Location: DublinPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:09 am ---- Is there any way to find out which one I need? It would be an expensive project to buy one by one.
I spent hours trying to find out the difference in circuit boards, but no-one seems to know, even when I asked a few master techs
You got access to the Peugeot master tech forum?
I did have access, but sold it.
#14: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: cooknl, Location: Near Amsterdam HollandPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:11 am ---- Hey Lee
I am a newby here and just purchased a used 206 GTi euro version, also have the problem of only ONE key, the key is a remote key which works fine I just want a second key with remote.
Can you explain multiplexed 206 and non multiplexed difference to me?.
Also what do you suggest I do to get a second key wit remote??
Sorry if this is not the right place to ask this question.
You can either get just a standard valet key, or try and get a plip key
#16: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: will-sussex, Location: E Grinstead, W SussexPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:36 am ---- Anyone know what peugeot part numbers correspond to what circuitboard numbers? trying to find out which board i need for my 2005 206 as i lost my original fob and only have the non-remote key. i bought a used 73373067B but it doesn't seem to want to communicate with my car.
All i remember about the orignal fob is it had the number[30] stamped on one side of the board. I don't suppose anyone knows what board that would be?
#17: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: iainlovatt, Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:20 am ---- Nope. Its a right pain the a**e. I bought an identical one number wise and cant get it to work. Its just a guessing game with the circuit boards,,
#18: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:24 am ---- Just go to a Peugeot main dealer with proof of ownership for the car, your photo id & purchase a new keyfob.
Where ever you get the fob from your going to need Peugeot Planet & the car's 4 digit alphanumeric security code to allow coding of the keys.
#19: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: will-sussex, Location: E Grinstead, W SussexPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:14 am ---- i have peugeot planet, and the 4 digit code, but cant justify the expense of a new key from peugeot so im looking at used.
i was aware i needed PP and code to program a new transponder chip but didnt think you needed it to introduce a new remote fob board.
#20: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:39 am ---- there is at least 4 type of remote fob on plexed 206.
and i believe they aren't interchangeable
#21: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: will-sussex, Location: E Grinstead, W SussexPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:52 pm ---- yes i had heard that but we need to find out what part number corresponds to which board then everyone can find out what is the right board for their car.
#22: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:11 pm ---- Just enter your chassis number on servicebox and it will tell you which remote the car was supplied with and you can't fail to get the right one.
6554 YL - EXCEPT REMOTE CONTROL WITH IMPROVED RANGE ASSEMBLY EXCEPT FRONT FOG LIGHTS LABEL "T1" OR INSERT BLUE (£67.14)
6554 YQ - REMOTE CONTROL WITH IMPROVED RANGE ASSEMBLY EXCEPT FRONT FOG LIGHTS (£57.31)
6554 YR - FRONT FOG LIGHTS EXCEPT REMOTE CONTROL WITH IMPROVED RANGE ASSEMBLY
LABEL "T1B" OR INSERT GREEN (£67.15)
6554 YV - REMOTE CONTROL WITH IMPROVED RANGE ASSEMBLY AND FRONT FOG LIGHTS (£57.31)
My 2003 is the YQ, my 2006 is the YV. Anyone with a 2004, 2005 could possibly narrow it down to when the change to the improved range was.
#23: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: will-sussex, Location: E Grinstead, W SussexPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:30 pm ---- thanks but none of those numbers correspond to any numbers on the 2 boards i have tried. i will check to see what peugeot planet says about it
#24: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:39 pm ----
will-sussex wrote:
thanks but none of those numbers correspond to any numbers on the 2 boards i have tried. i will check to see what peugeot planet says about it
The part numbers macca1411 posted are for a complete new remote keyfob including the key blade from Peugeot.
For what a NEW fob costs from Peugeot its a total no brainer not to buy a new one
#25: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: will-sussex, Location: E Grinstead, W SussexPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:45 pm ---- if you saw my car you wouldn't say that
#26: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:54 pm ----
will-sussex wrote:
if you saw my car you wouldn't say that
Just keep wasting your money on 2nd hand fobs then
#27: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: actionman, Location: HuddersfieldPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:39 pm ---- there's 6 206 remotes depending on year of car, if it has front fogs or not & also if it has alarm or not
1) 1999-01 no alarm discontinued
2) 1999-01 with alarm discontinued
3) 2002-05 with front fogs £47+vat
4) 2002-05 no front fogs £49+vat
5) 2005-07 with front fogs £37+vat
6) 2005-07 no front fogs £46+vat
I supply, cut & program keys for a living & i don't mess about with 2nd hand remotes. I get at least 10 calls per week from people that have tried to save money by buying a used remote off of ebay. Most of them buy the remote because it looks the same. The majority are VAG owners
Also all you need to test if a remote is sending is an RF/IR tester. Sealey do 1 for about £20-25
there's 6 206 remotes depending on year of car, if it has front fogs or not & also if it has alarm or not
1) 1999-01 no alarm discontinued
2) 1999-01 with alarm discontinued
3) 2002-05 with front fogs £47+vat
4) 2002-05 no front fogs £49+vat
5) 2005-07 with front fogs £37+vat
6) 2005-07 no front fogs £46+vat
I supply, cut & program keys for a living & i don't mess about with 2nd hand remotes. I get at least 10 calls per week from people that have tried to save money by buying a used remote off of ebay. Most of them buy the remote because it looks the same. The majority are VAG owners
Also all you need to test if a remote is sending is an RF/IR tester. Sealey do 1 for about £20-25
Craig
I take it that 5 and 6 on your list are the improved range fobs (6554YL & 6554YR). Handy to know when the change over occurred. Good info.
I would suggest you write something up as a sticky thread, but people on here will still ask the same questions, so not really worth the time or effort.
#29: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: actionman, Location: HuddersfieldPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:03 pm ---- numbers 5 & 6 have part numbers 6554YV & 6554YQ
I go through the same thing on every forum i'm on, which is a fair few. Tried to get a sticky set up with part numbers & as much info as possible but never got anywhere with it. Not tried on here though
Also yes, people will still ask the same questions! lol!
#30: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:11 pm ---- That doesn't make sense then. My 2003 1.4 has the part number 6554YQ and the 2006 1.4 is 6554YV.
#31: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: actionman, Location: HuddersfieldPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:09 pm ---- these are the part numbers provided by my 2 main key suppliers. The only time i ever contact them to ask which I need is when it's a 2005 model which is the change over year
#32: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: will-sussex, Location: E Grinstead, W SussexPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:16 am ---- we need a friendly parts person who can crack open the fob casings and give the board numbers for part numbers.
we need a friendly parts person who can crack open the fob casings and give the board numbers for part numbers.
I'll start it off, we can possibly do it just by members having a look at their fobs.
Year 2003 Dealer part number 6554YQ Board code 73373067C
Lee did try something similar before, but couldn't work out how the board codes related to the vehicles.
To find which fob the dealer recommends, you will have to enter your VIN on servicebox or PM me your VIN and I'll have a look and PM you the details back.
The board code is printed on the circuit board
#34: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:22 pm ----
will-sussex wrote:
we need a friendly parts person who can crack open the fob casings and give the board numbers for part numbers.
Still wasting your time with 2nd hand fobs
#35: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: tonyholbury, Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:35 pm ---- My Daughter has a 206 1.4 four door with only one key it was registered 14th July 2001 and the key has a single button.
If I buy a second hand key can it be simply reprogrammed?
#37: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: will-sussex, Location: E Grinstead, W SussexPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:01 pm ---- 6554Y was the p/n the dealer mentioned for my 2004 'S' spec car (no AC, no front fogs) anyone know what the board number is, i've tried a 73373067C which also has an '18' printed on the battery side of the board. No luck. (unless i'm just doing it wrong of course!) I have managed to programme a spare transponder chip in to it no probs though.
#38: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: CharleyNokia, Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:27 pm ---- Hey all, so the press the small button and hold for 10 secs, turn off, on etc will NOT work with a used ketfob then?
Are those prices for the new fob for a 2004/53 plate no front fogs correct? 60 quid cut and programmed?
I got the car with a 2 button key, but NOT the Lion button, just symboled lock/unlock small and big buttons, however the small case button is missing, just a hole, and the micro switch inside is missing itself.
#39: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:16 am ----
CharleyNokia wrote:
Hey all, so the press the small button and hold for 10 secs, turn off, on etc will NOT work with a used ketfob then?
Not a chance as its a big security risk.
You need the 4 digit alpha numeric security code for the car & Peugeot Planet ( or other suitable equipment that can code 206 keys)
#40: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: CharleyNokia, Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:56 am ---- I have a plastic Peugeot labeled credit card card with 4 digits, mix of numbers and letters. Is this what I need to code extra keys or is this for the radio code? So I have to either have to go to a Peugeot dealer, an auto locksmith or a Joe public who had Peugeot Planet in order sync an extra used or new key?
#41: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:40 am ----
CharleyNokia wrote:
I have a plastic Peugeot labeled credit card card with 4 digits, mix of numbers and letters. Is this what I need to code extra keys or is this for the radio code?
That's the security coded needed for access to key coding.
Your 206 is multiplexed, it doesn't have / need a radio code as the radio is locked to the BSI unit via the VIN number.
You need either Peugeot Planet OR other suitable diagnostic / locksmith equipment to code key's on a 206.
Key's are pretty cheap new from Peugeot BUT you will need to take your photo ID ( photo card driving licence or passport ) & proof of ownership for the car ( V5C registration document ) before they will supply you with a key / lock / security codes.
#42: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: CharleyNokia, Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:43 am ---- I have the Peugeot code card, so can I use that code for a used keyfob or only for new ones?
#43: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:50 am ----
CharleyNokia wrote:
I have the Peugeot code car, so can I use that code for a used keyfob or only for new ones?
All that code does is allow access in to key coding mode in the BSI unit.
You still need Peugeot Planet OR other suitable diagnostic / locksmith equipment to actually carry out the key coding procedure. ( its easiest with Peugeot Planet )
Transponder immobiliser chips can only be coded once, you would need a new virgin transponder chip for your used key fob.
#44: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: CharleyNokia, Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:33 am ---- OK, so new oblong transponder chip, and the code card. I bought 2 different shaped fobs from ebay,
The original key has the silver lion on the back, with long button and small round button, but I bought 2 fobs which are rounder bodied, with a flat back, and the lion on the but rounded triangular button and plain smaller triangular button. Not compatible?
#45: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:34 am ----
CharleyNokia wrote:
OK, so new oblong transponder chip, and the code card. I bought 2 different shaped fobs from ebay,
The original key has the silver lion on the back, with long button and small round button, but I bought 2 fobs which are rounder bodied, with a flat back, and the lion on the but rounded triangular button and plain smaller triangular button. Not compatible?
Stick a picture up of the key you have bought.
#46: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: CharleyNokia, Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:53 am ---- Ok, here are links to the original style key and the key I bought.
#47: Re: Key programming help, please... Author: CharleyNokia, Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:58 am ---- Also, I looked on my board, the long number begging with 733, ends with a C, so do I need to get a board with the same letter? Or can I get A,B,D?
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