#1: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:20 pm ---- Hi all i hope you dont mind me posting my car on here be heres my saxo vtr 16v, a lot has happened over the years, this is what it looks like
fast show:
mod nats
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french car show
black headlining, pillars and false floor
laptop plugged in to pred
Spec:
Engine:
-16v vts engine conversion
-vts box
-K&N panel filter, K&N cold air feed, red induction pipe and oem air box
-supersprint race center section
-ashley 4-2-1 manifold
Suspension/Brakes
-Apex front dampers
-Bilstein B8 rear dampers
-spax 60mm springs
-Powerflex arb bushes
-polyrace wish bone bushes
-maxtorq group n front and rear discs
-mintex pads front and rear
Wheels
-15x8" schmidt modern lines
Exterior
-front bumper (smoothed fogs, vertical grille bars removed, smoothed tow eye)
-rear bumper (smoothed exhaust recess, tow eye)
-boot (smoothed jet wash, spoiler, badges, handle, lock and shorted plate recess
-smoothed 'p' reg grille
-Citroen sport badges
-smoke side repeaters
-clear rear jewels
-flat wipers
Interior/ice
-red/black furio interior, plain rear cards and gray front cards
-black a,b+c pillars
-alpine head unit, vibe components in front, co-axials in rear all powered by a sony amp, and jbl sub and amp
soon to be fitted! jenvey itb's, gti-6 283mm brakes, and cat cam 708's
mk2 front end, i might fit this with a smoothed gloss black bonnet and smoked/black angel eyes
Photoshop
performance french car pic!
hope you like it Last edited by jeffchiz on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:34 pm; edited 2 times in total
#2: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:31 pm ---- I like it, if you ever sell the thottle body set up let me know
#3: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: Callum206, Location: West SussexPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:32 pm ---- Not usually a fan of Saxos but this one is really nice !
#4: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:40 pm ---- Not sure on the black grille but i like the performance mods in the pipeline.
#10: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: Bailey, Location: Finding Dr. RobotnikPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:38 pm ---- It would look alot nicer if the front grill was CC'd. Bet it's pretty rapid though.
It would look alot nicer if the front grill was CC'd. Bet it's pretty rapid though.
as i said i might be putting a mk2 front end on it, ive already bought the parts not sure weather to fit it all or not
and it should be about 185bhp per tonne once mapped up standard its about 7.5 seconds to 60mph cant wait to time it once its mapped Last edited by jeffchiz on Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:49 pm; edited 1 time in total
#12: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: NorthantsBen, Location: Raunds, NorthamptonshirePosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:52 pm ---- i dont mind saxos, gf gave me her old one when i was 20, untill i blew the engine up and scrapped it lol
I may of seen this orange Saxo before,might have seen it around goldings area*Northampton talk*
And i do have abit of hate for Saxos too from chavs.
But i will make an exception for your Saxo mate i like the design and stuff you have done to the car. Last edited by kurosagi01 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:14 pm; edited 1 time in total
not sure but they were cut like that to fit the 106 gti they were fitted to previously so i should need the same cut outs, if not then i will probs do without the trumpets and get a sausage filter
#17: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: Mrs_Howey, Location: WorthingPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:22 pm ---- The third one looks smashed rather than cut
#18: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:40 pm ---- im guessing they weren't precision cut lol as i said i'll see what its like when they're fitted and i'll see if it has to be like that or not
#19: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: Andy180, Location: Stoke on TrentPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:57 pm ---- Really Nice saxo youve got there mate im a big fan of them only things im not keen on are the black grill and that dodgy stickerbomb thing youve done to your arch.
Really Nice saxo youve got there mate im a big fan of them only things im not keen on are the black grill and that dodgy stickerbomb thing youve done to your arch.
cheers
yea the sticker bombing was only done as i lost my arch on the A1 lol and my housemate who worked at pug1off got me a black arch that was lying around so i thought the stickers would look better than a odd colour'd arch until i can get a red one lol
#21: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: puggy206, Location: scunthorpePosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:21 pm ---- I like it but the stickerbomb thing is not my thing. Bet the power to weight ratio is well good on this
#22: Re: My smoothed saxo :) Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:36 am ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
jeffchiz wrote:
Mattie-RS wrote:
jeffchiz wrote:
lol im guessing there's some saxo hatred here?
Yup
thanks maybe people should judge a car for what it is and not just go by stereotypes...
Not really stereotypes,
So for what the car is;
A tin can on wheels
A deathtrap
Not particulary interesting to look at
Poor build quality
s**t interiour
Small engine and handling is okay(ish)
majority of that is true ha but the main points are opinions not facts, i dont think it would have got in to performance french car mag if it was 'not particularly interesting to look at' considering only two saxos out of hundreds were put in...
i personally love the interior and i could very quite happily and sit here and reel off many points which would stop me buying a 206 but im not going to because its pointless getting all worked up over 10 yr old french hatch backs lol
it was a toss up between a clio 182, 207 gti or take this car further, less expensive than the 207 and more than the 182 but a hell of a lot faster than the 182 and more fun to drive.
And do you really need a bigger engine in a small car than a 1.6? i dont think so personally, and is a bigger engine required in a saxo? i dont think so considering how little they weigh, remember im not lugging around a boat lol the bhp/tonne on saxo's/106's isnt exactly shabby is it
whats the bhp/tonne on your clio?....
#23: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:30 am ---- Not a accurate figure but its the book one
Apparently 159bhp/tonne
Mine doesn't way same as standard tho
Bhp/tonne doesnt mean anything anyway can have a 1.1 with a bigger bhp/tonne than mine but it would still loose.
I've got video evidence that a Saxo/106 GTi is slower than a Clio anyway
Not a accurate figure but its the book one
Apparently 159bhp/tonne
Mine doesn't way same as standard tho
Bhp/tonne doesnt mean anything anyway can have a 1.1 with a bigger bhp/tonne than mine but it would still loose.
I've got video evidence that a Saxo/106 GTi is slower than a Clio anyway
#28: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:08 am ---- I meant once mine has been mapped up with the cams and throttle bodies it would be faster than any rs clio....
and sorry, on saxp i love reading threads on different cars as looking at saxo after saxo does get boring, I've never seen someone on saxp get slated for showing different cars, the reason why i joined 6 months ago was becasue i was considering a 180, but meh ciao!
#29: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: ramigojag, Location: worcestershirePosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:14 am ---- Looks good seen it on sax p
#30: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:16 am ---- you will need new trumpets.... even short ones would do with a sausage filter but you will need them or the airflow will go to rats. You will be surprised how the trumpet length affects the power figures......
#31: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:10 pm ---- looks pretty nice mate. not sure about the black grill but you should go for the mk2 front end with black bonet, nice and tidy. possibly sit it a bit lower as well, but that depends if you want to keep the handling or have better looks
#32: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:51 am ---- if any one is interested ive made a head way on this
well the car is now with me at my uni house so we can now get cracking, with a charge of the battery the engine fired in to life straight away, it had a misfire and was idling about 2krpm but apart from that it seemed alright, but then we saw a big(ish) pool of oil under the car, so we took the cam belt cover off and we could see oil coming out the head gasket, soooo we have taken the head off and is now ready to be skimmed on monday and ill also be inquiring about porting and polishing heres a few photos pretty s**t photos as it was dark when we finished but the main thing it work has started!
tomorrows jobs are to strip down the cylinder head, take the bottom half of the cambelt off with pulleys, tensioners etc and also have a crack at the water pump (fun) and then de-grease the block and get it all clean.
the plan of action then is to re-build the cylinder head with the 708's, re-fit head with new water pump and cambelt, bolt the bodies on, splice the tps sensor in to the loom, mount the IAT sensor somewhere, fit new throttle/clutch cable and then get it mapped!
oh also need to remove the loom and chop out all the wiring that i wont be using and tidy it up a bit
well i got bored this evening being in so me and tom started stripping my head, we didnt mean to, it just sort of happened lol first of all the inlet mani came off, then the pulleys, cambelt cover, cam ladders and then lastly removed the cams
just need to remove the valves and tappets tomorrow and shes ready to be skimmed
not a lot of progress today as i helped tom5190 do a gear box change
all I did today was remove the injectors and wiring from the old inlet and fit them to the throttle bodies just because im eager lol
bit more strippage today, i removed the alternator, aux belt, pulley, tensioner and all the brackets. As well as the cambelt, water pump, idler, tensioner and the engine mount. all will be cleaned up or replaced where applicable.
well i picked the head up yesterday from being skimmed, adn i dropped my cam ladders off at the local garage to have two snapped bolts extracted, but we made a start on refurbishing the head
first of all we put the head in to a stand and we removed the valves, springs, caps, collets and stem seals
and then we started grinding the valves and seats
tom having some well deserved dinner! (or tea, sorry tom)
once the valves were reground we fitted new stem seals
refitting the valves and springs
trying to carefully get the collets back in
then at 1am last night we finally had the head as complete as we could get it with all the valves put back in and the hydraulic lifters (which had been drained of oil)
Today i picked the cam ladders up from the garage so later on this evening we will fit the cams with new cam seals and bolt the cam ladders down, ready to re fit the head tomorrow :y:
took a few pics
well the cylinder head is bolted on and i put the bodies on loosely as i was eager to see what it all looked like, can i finally say i have a cammed, bodied engine? lol
couple more day time pics, obviously a lot of cleaning a tidying up needs to be done but you get the idea lol
#33: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jayz206gti, Location: TamworthPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:54 pm ---- Good thread mate, like you said gets bit boring looking at the same cars in different ways. Thinking of buying a saxo to track for 2012.
Good thread mate, like you said gets bit boring looking at the same cars in different ways. Thinking of buying a saxo to track for 2012.
cheers mate, if your looking in to getting a track vts id buy a mk1 vts, strip as much as you feel comfortable stripping fitting some 206 gti brakes and some better springs, struts and bushes with some good tires and should have an awesome little car for the track and then if you like it then go for more power!
#35: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:28 pm ---- Liking the progress of this mate. Enjoyed the little read above and I would love to have a similar project one day!
Keep up the good work!
#36: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:40 am ---- thanks for the comments guys having some trouble atm as we cant get the bodies on with the engine mount on, and the same the other way round so im a bit stuck for ideas atm, someone on saxp told me he thinks he used to have the same manifold and some of the engine mount needs to be filed down
#37: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:20 am ---- well cars almost there! jenveys are fitted properly, engine mount is on, cam covers back on, fitted radiator and hoses, just need to cable tie the iat sensor, wire up the tps and connect throttle cable, and then its just fit the cambelt and alternator and we should be able to start her up! so one more full day on it should see it ready to be mapped
#38: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: ramigojag, Location: worcestershirePosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:14 pm ---- love this i used to own a vtr and loved it thinking of getting a project mk1 vts possibly next year
#39: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: sam-c, Location: Uni: Kent Home: ScunthorpePosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:27 pm ---- best saxo I have ever seen is the one belonging to one of the guys from fast car magazine and it was one of their projects they do updates on each month... was lovely would love to own that!
#40: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: JamieM, Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:39 am ---- Looks great mate I really wish I hadn't of sold my VTS far far far more fun to drive than my 180! and defo quicker, best of all returned something called MPG lol!
I totally agree with what you said too. I love reading about other car builds... reading the same thing all the time get's boring! No interest on P for my 180 tho, got alot on my first 180 back in 2004 but people now think they are s**te! (which they are not, I just can't afford to make mine handle better lol)
Jamie from P!
#41: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: BioCustoms, Location: LeedsPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:28 pm ---- Very nice
#42: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:06 pm ---- copied the last few updates from saxp
well the cam belt is on also fitted the spark plugs and coil pack, so not a great amount of progress, but progress non-the-less! as we've been busy doing my 106 gti project
left sill to to do:-
alternator (inc brackets and belt)
throttle cable
tps and iat sensors
then its ready for its first start up!!! cant waitt
Been nearly 6 weeks since the last update, got back to my uni house earlier today, made some more progress me and tom got the alternator, brackets pulley and belt on
Slowly but surely getting there, tomorrow I'm doing an oil change, mounting the throtle cable bracket, fit outtercambelt cover, mount Iat sensor and splice the tps sensor then that's everything bar mapping!
Didn't get as much done as I wanted today but a fair chunk
Fitted the throttle cable backet
Wired the tps in
And cable tied the iat sensor up
no real update as im still waiting on my starter motor but i thought id pull the car out on the drive and give it a wash and polish as tom and my other mate were doing there's, i also re-tinted the rear lights as they were fading and i fitted the mk2 lights off my vtr on to it to see what it looked like and me and tom seem to think ti looks better, anyways im going to lacquer the lights to tomorrow to stop them fading and refit them and post up a pic and see which ones look better
quick pic of our french drive lol up until a few days ago we also had my gti on there!
been a busy boy today
firstly i lacquered my rear lights to stop them fading, fitted them and took a pic, what do people prefer the oem mk2 lights or the jewels?
also i decided to tint my head lights and sprayed the ecu bracket black, love them just need to buy some smoked indicators, will put up a better pic tomorrow
also got some shiny new bolts for my coilpack, cam belt covers and ecu bracket
and my starter motor turned up, this will be fitted tomorrow and the battery will be charged, outer cambelt cover and ecu bracket will be fitted then ill connect the loom up and hopefully get it started!
well the car is in a state to be started up... well it turns over but not firing so im waiting for andy to get back to me so he can remotely connect to the predator and put the proper map on it and see whats going on, only real thing left to do is connect the throttle cable some how :s but not essential to start the car, then get the cams timed in properly and mapped, once that is done im buying a new loom for it and making it look nice and tidy and taking out any sensors that arent being used
anyway here are a few pics showing the front lights, rear lights and engine bay in better quality/brighter photos than the previous lot
well i picked some 106 leathers yesterday were a bit dirty, but good condition for the price of only £60!
bought some products today
clean and protected them and then fitted them, pics are a bit s**t makes everything look green and a dirty will get some better pics tomorrow
another crap little update finally fitted my FDM sticker! and removed the saxway one
#43: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:13 pm ----
JamieM wrote:
Looks great mate I really wish I hadn't of sold my VTS far far far more fun to drive than my 180! and defo quicker, best of all returned something called MPG lol!
I totally agree with what you said too. I love reading about other car builds... reading the same thing all the time get's boring! No interest on P for my 180 tho, got alot on my first 180 back in 2004 but people now think they are s**te! (which they are not, I just can't afford to make mine handle better lol)
Jamie from P!
your vts was awesome! i bought a bmw 320 ci sport the other day and it was blue with yellow calipers i thought of your car when i saw the car for the first time ha
#44: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:16 pm ---- if you wanted some good masked lights for show try getting a cheap set of chav halos with clear lenses and put the clear ones on the masked originals that looks good if your spraying in the lights is upto a good standard
#45: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:18 pm ---- also put some insulation tape around the wires in the bay to tidy it up and protect the wires a bit more from moisture
#46: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:39 pm ----
craigdmjv wrote:
if you wanted some good masked lights for show try getting a cheap set of chav halos with clear lenses and put the clear ones on the masked originals that looks good if your spraying in the lights is upto a good standard
ive got some angel eyes under my bed been there for about 2 years since i took them off ha
and the loom is coming out once the car is running, all sensors not being used the appropriate wiring will be removed and the loom will be wrapped up neatly
#47: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:04 pm ---- yeh you should try the lights mate will look soo much cleaner
#48: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:49 am ----
craigdmjv wrote:
yeh you should try the lights mate will look soo much cleaner
only problem with that, the oem lights are in two pieces (the headlight and indicator are separate), on the angels the headlight and indicators are a single unit :S
#49: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:54 am ---- oh you could always get some made
#50: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:39 am ----
craigdmjv wrote:
oh you could always get some made
would look good but at the moment my headlights are quite far down the list of priorities ha
#51: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:09 am ---- a whole host of updates here
well i picked some 106 leathers yesterday were a bit dirty, but good condition for the price of only £60!
bought some products today
clean and protected them and then fitted them, pics are a bit s**t makes everything look green and a dirty will get some better pics tomorrow
another crap little update finally fitted my FDM sticker! and removed the saxway one
Re-polished the old cam covers not perfect but much better
Also forgot to mention I stripped the loom of unused sensors and wires, the bodies don't use the map, rp and icv sensors also removed a few other wires
well what can i say, 7 months off the road shes finally started up!!! after a quick call to matt at pug1off and my fave pug1off machanic tom5190 shes running!
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqeMf6Pczks"]Saxo Vts Jenvey 1st start - YouTube[/url]
one of me driving off, got another being uploaded now
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URSMV4UsS8w"]IMG_0372.MOV - YouTube[/url]
heres the vid of me coming back down the hill
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uK7sQMP9Pk"]Untitled.avi - YouTube[/url]
drive by vid
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61MD5WI5M7M"]Saxo VTS + Jenvey's - YouTube[/url
fast show pics
miller took this one
these two from lewis
rest taken on my phone
Car is getting mapped and having the cams timed in properly on saturday morning
#52: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:56 am ---- Looks nice, I was with you right up to the square rear number ate, just looks too big IMO. Maybe if you relocated it down to where the towing eye used to be.
Looks nice, I was with you right up to the square rear number ate, just looks too big IMO. Maybe if you relocated it down to where the towing eye used to be.
Other than that, I like
În the last few pics it has its smaller plate fitted thanks for commenting
The timing really needs sorting I thought the engine was going to fall out
haha yea, its steady while revving it just on idle :S gonna get some bm baker mounts in a week or 2
#56: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:33 am ---- well my back box blew up on me the other morning :S the noise was sooo loud! and the black smoke pouring out was unbelievable
colour difference in the shocks! lol!
Just purchased a powerflex bottom engine mount and a spoox red top rad hose, however i might be buying a full set of engine mounts, wishbones with spoox mounts and powerlex bushes and some 106 mirrors with c/f caps if all goes well which means ill have to sell the powerflex lower engine mount straight on
jsut got back from the west london collective meet was awesome, so many good cars there! i picked up this beauty after the meet from liam-westcoast a 3" inward rolled piper imo the best back box everrrr, its got 106 hangers on it so it will sit nicely under my bumper fingers crossed will update tomorrow lunch time with it fitted hopefully
obviosuly will be cleaned and polished before it goes on
ooo post man has arrived to give me my over priced hose look at me 2 updates in one day, if your lucky there might be another update later with it fitted if i can be bothereed to get some shiney new clips for it, agaisnt the law to use my old rusty clips with a shiney new hose ha
fitted the rad hose with some new clips 3rd update today!
new parcel
just finished fitting my gti6 brakes, and replaced all the fluid with dot 5.1, the discs are second hand but very low mileage maxtorq grp n items and i got some new QH oem spec pads for them, bled them all up and then realised the schmidts didnt fit over the brakes! so for a temp measure to get the car on the road the siroccos off the gold vtr have been fitted and the schmidts are on the vtr, to be fair they look quite good imo ha
Schmidts have now been sold, Llardy has given me a deposit, not bad i sold them without putting them up for sale within 24 hours of me taking them off, without a 100% intention of selling them
BUT the car is booked in to pug1off a week tomorrow (thursday 3rd may) so the sale of these wheel should pay pug1off for the work, its been booked in for the following work:
-sort out the running issues
-fit exhaust properly (long storey, s**t ashley manifold)
-time cams in properly (just on std timing marks atm)
-adjust tracking
-and finally get it mot'd
in the meantime ive got the following to do
-re-bleed gti6 brakes again get them tip top
-fit my new goodies
engine mounts
wishbones (need mew ball joints)
maybe the 106 c/f mirrors
-refit my spoox hose as tom5190 borrowed in earlier and bleed coolant
-reseal cam covers (oil leak)
so getting quite a bit of work done to it over the next couple weeks, should be at pug1off for a week so ill have time to fit my bmw engine in to the 320 and uni should be over this time next week so ill have time to tinker with the cars
pic of said goodies
thought id fit my engine mounts today
old g/box one off
new one on
lower mount off
on fire
fitted
took the upper mount off
realised the mount bolt doesnt fit through the old 'bridge', has to be drilled out and didnt have a big enough drill bit to hand so just refitted the old mount
had a long eventful day today!
plan was to pick car up from pug1off, get it mapped, bring back to pug1off for more repairs, then book it in for mot and then do mot repairs and was execpting to get the car back in a week or so.
However..
I got to pug1off and they had done ALL the repairs i asked them to do ahead of schedule, and just as i was driivng out of the garage i was told i was booked in for mot at half 4 today so we shot off to Noprthampton Motorsport waited around or about an hour as the car before us was taking longer than expected, didnt execpt to get back in time for mot, after 2.5 hours mapping the car it was ready and i shot off back to brackley and dropped the car at the mot station 35 min late, they mot'd it, passed first time! drove round the corner to pug1off and then we fitted a sticker set and finished about 8pm been a very long day but i cant believe the car is back today!
Runs so nice now
here are pics and videos from today as well as my printouts, i got 150bhp before the remap and 155 after, with a MUCH better air/fuel ratio, i dont need to take out a small mortage to drive the car now!
steve and matt timing my cams in as i turned up this morning
jacked up at NMS having the wideband fitted
being dyno'd
car back at pug1off having the stickers fitted after mot
back at home a week early fully road legal (sort of) lol
exhasut fitted properly
video
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnRt3iVWzbM"]Saxo vts, Jenvey throttle bodies, catcam 708's dyno'd at 155bhp - YouTube[/url]
graphs
my max bhp graph
my WHP graph
before and after remap power figures, also shows the air/fuel ratio and how its been improved
tom5190 also had his 16v saxo on catcam 743's dyno'd at NMS so we able to lay my graphs over his
our max bhp
our max WHP
So in summary today the car has had the following done:
-running isues sorted out
-tracked
-cams timed in
-oil leak around cam covers fixed
-exhaust fitted properly
-snapped bolt in rear beam taken out and replaced
-mapped and dyno'd
-mot'd
-stickers fitted
fewww, been a long, tiring, exciting and expensive day!
*UPDATE*
Just had the car weighed in at 880kg soooo 176bhp per tonne
just fitted my vibratechnics engine mount, finally bought some drill bits and drilled the mount to accept the M12 bolt
rain stopped so i went out again and fitted my lower arms with the powerflex bushes and vibratechnics/spoox mounts on, also fitted my cambelt cover now the cams are timed in
old arms off
new arms
new arms fitted
catch tank has just turned up gonna go and fit it now hose looks gay as, but it'll do for the time being
all fitted, cleaned the bay up got rid of most of the oil, amazing what brake cleaner can do, the blue oil catch tank pipe looks gash will be replaced with a red silicone one, and i really should have bought a smaller tank as it would have given me more options of where to put it, the ecu braket was the only place where there was enough room for it (just).
went for a photo shoot the other day with tom5190 and redexstyle
also got a few the other day when we went to Eynsham hall
#57: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: kurosagi01, Location: NorthamptonPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:22 am ---- Nicest Saxo i've seen in my entire life and glad all the mods done on a VTR model and not some low end engine i've seen everyday.
The sirocco alloys definitely looks nice on your car.
#58: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: MattyP, Location: PlymouthPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:27 pm ---- good project mate, those engine mods done on a vts engine? only ask because if i read it right and i apologise if i'm wrong but when you had it dyno'd it was 155bhp? I had a mk2 vts before my 206 which was dyno'd at 150bhp with only pulleys, camshafts, superchip
good project mate, those engine mods done on a vts engine? only ask because if i read it right and i apologise if i'm wrong but when you had it dyno'd it was 155bhp? I had a mk2 vts before my 206 which was dyno'd at 150bhp with only pulleys, camshafts, superchip
yes mate on a vts engine, different rolling roads are horribile for comparing cars my housemate has a cammed 16v which has been dyno'd from 141 to 151bhp, the expected result for my engine spec was 155bhp and that was what i achieved, at the end of the day throttle bodies on fast road cams wont produce much much peak power than just a cammed vts, the next step would be forged pistons/rods and widler cams which would see me geting 190+ which is about another £2000 worth of parts which might be happening in the future but i dont know if i want to spend much more money on the car
the highest bhp ive seen for bodies with a standard bottom end is 167bhp from atpower bodies with newman ph3 cams
my pistons rings are also on their way out, all my own fault asi drove the car too much before it was mapped and it was stupidly over fuelling so all the petrol in the bores will have damaged my rings, we can tell this because my catch tank fills up rather quickly lol which points to the oil pressurising, i should be picking a new bottom end up at FCS at the weekend and il having it all cleaned up and the rings/bearing/bolts replaced and then we'll spend a day swapping them over which gives me a good opportuinity to give the bay a good clean Last edited by jeffchiz on Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:51 pm; edited 1 time in total
#60: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: MattyP, Location: PlymouthPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:24 pm ---- would love to see it with the forged pistons/con rods
#61: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:34 pm ---- Certainly turning into a beast nice job on all the things done
Nicest Saxo i've seen in my entire life and glad all the mods done on a VTR model and not some low end engine i've seen everyday.
The sirocco alloys definitely looks nice on your car.
Harry wrote:
Certainly turning into a beast nice job on all the things done
thanks for the comments
#63: Re: My smoothed saxo :) jenveys, 708's, predator, schmidts Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:08 am ---- Really nice looking motor. Only thing that ruins it for me is the sticker bombed wing. Other than that very nice.
Really nice looking motor. Only thing that ruins it for me is the sticker bombed wing. Other than that very nice.
the arch has gone now, as said it wasn't my first choice but didn't really have a lot of say in the matter lol
next set of updates copied over
picked my new arch up today from FCS, getting the bumper strip sprayed tomorrow and fitting it properly tomorrow, its only loosely on atm, photo curtsey of alex gordon
heres some pics
this was the saturday evening when me, tom5190 and the rest of the pug1off lot turned up to set the stall up for the show
and hers some pics taken by m11ler of mine, wassy's, lso's, rudpud's and Llady's cars when the show was winding down. m11ler and rudpud both took ones of mine on the stand so when they upload them ill post them All the photos from this little photoshoot can be found in m11ler's link above
didn't have time to go to peugeot today to buy some clips but i made a start on the arch anyway
quickly washed and polished
taped up and sanded back
primered
painted
laquered
final product now matches rest of car!
also pulled out this old relic the original boot lid, took the spoiler jet wash and badges off it. The spoiler holes, jet wash hole and badge holes are definitely being welded up and smoothed just not sure what to do with the recess
im either going to have a smoothed boot handle (lock smoothed off) or just have the holes welded up, so i have a smooth full size recess if you get me. And use LED number plate bolts to light the plate up.
few more photos from m11ler
And some from rudpud
as part of 'project clean up' i also am going to reattach my rear drivers side arch as its always been loose and the sideskirt is also got a few snapped clips, so im just about to go to citroen and buy some new clips
plans:
-cheap little s**t bits (which is what im doing now; re-attching the vt kit properly, spraying mirrors etc)
-once i get back home and start working so in about a month the new bottom end will be built up and the bay will be sprayed when the engine is removed
-and in 2 months time its body work time thats when im going to get the new boot done, and probably get both rear quarters resprayed and the drivers door
-3months time it'll be new wheels time!
-then 4 months time ill be doing something with the interior, probably something along to lines of a red rallye carpet, tidy up my a,b,c pillars and maybe some buckets and harnesses (maybe a cage)
Little bit more progress
tigersealed on the new clips
cleaned up the arches
removed my mirrors as they need spraying (were no where near as good as they were described when i bought them!)
the 'gloss' black part wasnt very glossy and very patchy
and the mirror caps had lacquer peel
these were sanded down and primered (will stay like this for a little while until i buy some venetian red paint)
and got a few coats of black on the mirrors, i want the mirrors lacquered tonight and i will re fit them along with the arches tomorrow
i managed to get my arches on, the tiger seal and dried fully
no more wafty arch :y:
little cheeky shot of redexstyle's new alloys being test fitted
got three layers of lacquer on my mirrors and ripped the tape off, they are almost dry to the touch so ill leave them a bit and ill carefully put them on tonight, they're are not as glossy as i wanted but a much better job of what had been done before hand! they will probably be done professionally when the car goes through its 'body shop' phase
got the mirrors on
now i need some venetian red paint and some more lacquer to do the caps
i removed my smoothed boot as its now sold to Furio-Gaz-Saxo, new/old boot isnt lined up properly yet will adjust it tomorrow, looks a state atm but not bad considering its been sat for 3 years in 3 different back gardens lol and im going scrappy on monday so will pick up a boot handle not sure what happened to my old one, badges, lock, spoiler and jet wash are being smoothed off this boot lid and going to need a new pug1off sticker lol
just got back from scrappy got a plain boot handle just fitted it and also cleaned the badge residue up a little bit mroe to make it look more presentable until its sprayed
The thread is now up to date again
Being paid on Tuesday and i am picking some new wheels up hopefully Tuesday morning, and will go straight to the bodyshop and get a quote on doing the boot and will be on the look out for a new bottom end not sure if there will be any funds to rebuild the bottom end this month but should be able to buy one at least and get it stripped down and cleaned up, really shouldnt be buying wheels and smoothing/spraying my boot when the more important things need doing but i cant miss out on these wheels and the boot makes the car look really tatty lately
#65: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: Bigbenj_08, Location: CardiffPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:05 pm ---- Lush looking car, some great work done!
Was wondering (and I know it probably the lamest question after all the work carried out) but how did you do the false floor?
Tis something I could really use in mine for more practical reasons
#66: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:59 pm ---- I think it would look a lot nicer if you sprayed the black parts red
I think it would look a lot nicer if you sprayed the black parts red
me to..
#68: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:47 pm ---- by black parts do you mean the grille or the bump strips? if you mean the bump strips they are staying gloss black not a fan of colour coded bumps strips at all, i love how glossy and wet looking the bump strips look, and the black boot handle will obviously be painted when the lock is smoothed off, but at the end of the day im not so bothered about how the car looks with the engine mods it seems a bit pointless to get too caught up in such minor things like its appearance when ive got much bigger things to think about
to do the boot floor i drew around the boot carpet and extended it further in to the car and took measurements to cut to it fit around the rear door cards and the rear seat mounting studs
#69: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: shell-vt, Location: durhamPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:06 pm ---- me i refer to the door strips and that black bumper lower panel
#70: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:09 pm ---- i can see why people may not like the black on the lower half of the rear bumper but i personally like it, if the bumper was being resprayed then i might get that bit colour coded next for a change but no i love the gloss black door/bumper bump strips i think the only colour saxo that looks good colour coded all over is a black one funnily enough lol
#71: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:08 pm ---- So have you just stuck the pug1off sticker on or have you had work done there? I know Tom tho he was trying to strip down and rebuild his box up before fcs lol
I like the tuning bits but not a fan of the rest 2bh.
#72: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:31 am ---- i like the standard boot
#73: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:33 pm ---- [quote="spike_202"]So have you just stuck the pug1off sticker on or have you had work done there? I know Tom tho he was trying to strip down and rebuild his box up before fcs lol
I like the tuning bits but not a fan of the rest 2bquote]
There's pics of my car being worked on in pug 1off and a whole write up in the thread if you read back lol we'll be fitting his new box asap is it just the bumpers you don't like? Pretty much the only thing that dosent look standard bodywork wise
#74: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:56 pm ---- [quote="jeffchiz"]
spike_202 wrote:
So have you just stuck the pug1off sticker on or have you had work done there? I know Tom tho he was trying to strip down and rebuild his box up before fcs lol
I like the tuning bits but not a fan of the rest 2bquote]
There's pics of my car being worked on in pug 1off and a whole write up in the thread if you read back lol we'll be fitting his new box asap is it just the bumpers you don't like? Pretty much the only thing that dosent look standard bodywork wise
Ooo I thought you was doing the work your self thata all, erm I don't know I'm not a fan of glossing plastics but that's just me lol, I just prefer standard cars with tune ups (sleepers) nice project tho lots of hard work has gone into it.
#75: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:27 pm ---- Me and tom have done the majority of the work but was taken to pug1off for fine tuning matt wouldn't have given me a sticker set if I hadn't of spent money with him, he is a bit picky over who he gives the stickers to which is fair enough he dosent want his company name on sheds lol so how do you know tom??
#76: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:42 am ---- Read my project thread
Had my car done by Matt about 3years back and just keep upgrading things and changing bits.
#77: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:34 am ---- I travelled to ricksgti house the other day and bought his speedline chrono alloys, always wanted a set and now finally got some i wanted to wait until the car was clean to take pics but just got back from work and its raining so ill get some good photos tomorrow
#78: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:18 am ---- Just been out and took some photos of the car after i cleaned it also treated the seats to some auto glym leather cleaner and care balm, bought the products ages ago and this is the only second time ive used them, should really use them more often as they were kinda expensive and knwoing me ill change the seats soon so want to get my monies worth lol
All the photos taken at the resevior i work at, Rutland Water.
The boot being resprayed is going to have to wait until next month as i was in debt more than i thought!
Also did some panorama pics on my phone again so not the best quality!
#79: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: shell-vt, Location: durhamPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:47 pm ---- some nice photo,s there ..
#80: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:23 am ---- Speedlines look spot on mate wow you drove from Oxford to ricks house bet that was a mish nice lad tho I got an alternator off him.
#81: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:35 am ---- Is it turning into a track slag now?
#82: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: craigdmjv, Location: WiltshirePosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:30 pm ---- I saw a white mk1 106 in challow scrapyard the other day had a big red pug1off sticker on the windscreen
#83: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:07 pm ----
spike_202 wrote:
Speedlines look spot on mate wow you drove from Oxford to ricks house bet that was a mish nice lad tho I got an alternator off him.
Cheers read you thread the other day tom was telling me about Steve doing the custom work on it.You might be thinking of someone else? His place was only 40ish miles from Oxford lol he's on saxp and 106owners not sure if hes on here
#84: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:14 pm ----
Harry wrote:
Is it turning into a track slag now?
I wouldn't say track slag I might end up going for cage and buckets, car never intended to look like a track car just seems to be going that way with my last few choices end of the day it'll always be my daily road car until I buy another car currently looking at a Mazda 6 MPs, I have a BMW e46 320 msport that is being sold soon but that's only a project car to make some money off
#85: Re: My throttle bodied saxo Author: jeffchiz, Location: oxfordPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:15 pm ----
craigdmjv wrote:
I saw a white mk1 106 in challow scrapyard the other day had a big red pug1off sticker on the windscreen
That's a shame to see another s1 106 dead also if its got pug1off stickers then it would have been something special
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