#1: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:52 am ---- Hey guys,
Just registered so apologies for getting right to the point.
I bought a 206 2 days ago with a gear oil leak quite cheap.
I thought it would be a simple case of changing the oil seal but it now turns out the passenger driveshaft seams too long.
The previous owner said he replaced the gearbox last week with a 1.4s gearbox however the driveshafts according to my local parts and Peugeot are the same?
Sliding the driveshaft into the n/s leaves it about 1/2 inch out and obviously means no seal against the gear oil seal. Driveshafts across the 206 range seam to be the same part number so any advice is much welcomed!
Thanks
#2: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:10 am ---- Help if we knew what engine yours was
#3: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:26 am ----
Lee wrote:
Help if we knew what engine yours was
Mines a 1.4 8v, apparently the new box also came from a 1.4 8v, but the driveshaft on mine the spline seams too long, seams to be stopping on a pin or something in the box, just the passenger side though, drivers is fine
#4: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:29 am ---- Nah they should be the same
#5: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:43 am ----
Lee wrote:
Nah they should be the same
Do you think there might be a problem with the gearbox then? There seams to be a pin or something stopping the driveshaft going right the way in?
#6: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:27 am ---- Well I decided to order the driveshaft from the car that had the gearbox in, so we will hopefully see what happens friday :/
#7: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: mjrimmer, Location: davenportPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:49 am ---- Has the end of the splines on the driveshaft got a groove going around it with a spring clip in it?
#8: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:03 am ---- The shaft has not gone in all the way.... needs a nudge
#9: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:13 am ----
macj wrote:
The shaft has not gone in all the way.... needs a nudge
We used a hammer but it just didnt want to go in, looking in the hole there seams to be a pin or something so ordered the driveshaft that was in there before,
#10: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:17 am ---- The pin you can see is in the diff..... it should fit if its all standard pug stuff
#11: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:19 am ----
macj wrote:
The pin you can see is in the diff..... it should fit if its all standard pug stuff
Well we went from a 1.4 8v gearbox to another 1.4 8v gearbox and in the process the driveshaft on the passenger side just will not fit, had it at my mates garage so would assume if there was a certain way of fitting it he would have known
#12: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:24 am ---- Its one of those situations where you need to see it to advise.....
#13: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:27 am ---- Well it's been put back together for now but when the new driveshaft arrives Friday/Saturday I'll get photos if it doesnt fit!
#14: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:16 pm ---- so are the driveshafts genuine?! can only assume that is the problem, if the gearbox is the exact same the shaft should be the problem. like 'macj' said though, really need to see to advice
#15: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:22 pm ----
greg.mitchell350 wrote:
so are the driveshafts genuine?! can only assume that is the problem, if the gearbox is the exact same the shaft should be the problem. like 'macj' said though, really need to see to advice
Yeah I understand, I will get some photos,
The car was running fine, had a 1.4 8v gearbox but the box went, so got a replacement gearbox from a 1.4 8v. Fitted it, drivers driveshaft went in find but the passenger one doesn't go right in.
The car drives, but the shaft doesn't go in far enough to make the oil seal so I loose gear oil. There seams to be that pin stopping the driveshaft going right in yet the old gearbox didnt have this :/
#16: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:29 pm ---- that pin is part of the differential and the reason for the old gearbox not having one might be because that is what caused it to fail? does the gearbox have slight variations depending on the year of the car?
#17: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:35 pm ----
greg.mitchell350 wrote:
that pin is part of the differential and the reason for the old gearbox not having one might be because that is what caused it to fail? does the gearbox have slight variations depending on the year of the car?
No I have been told the gearboxes are the same. So the pin may still be in the end of this gearbox hence it not fitting?
#18: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:52 pm ---- the pin should be in there, at a guess, really need to see it. could be thinking of different pins
#19: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:06 pm ----
greg.mitchell350 wrote:
the pin should be in there, at a guess, really need to see it. could be thinking of different pins
Ok thanks for your help, I am getting the driveshaft that was in this box on Friday so I will know more then, will take some photos if I am still having problems.
Thanks
#20: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:01 pm ---- I have been told the shafts can be different. I was speaking to a gearbox re-conditioners and they said some of the shafts are half an inch longer on the spline.
#21: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:37 pm ---- are those genuine shafts that can be longer or patend parts?
#22: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: shr3k1989, Location: PlymouthPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:00 pm ---- Well I tracked down where the gear box came from and asked for the driveshaft aswell. They sent it yesterday and it definately is smaller. Will check tomorrow but god knows which gearbox I have fitted!!!
#23: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:35 pm ---- could it be a 106/ saxo box?
#24: Re: Driveshaft is too long? Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:39 pm ---- i know 106's use to have different length driveshafts because they had different depth hub nuts depending on the shaft so might be the same case with the 206's
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