#1: Off side / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:57 am ---- When Haynes refers to 'Left' side, I seem to recall that would be the driver's side (for RHD, UK vehicle) or 'Outer side' as you call it.
Anyone confirm? Last edited by V9977 on Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:06 am; edited 1 time in total
#2: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:24 am ---- Left side would be passengers side n/s [nearside] in the UK
So drivers side o/s for you
#3: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:42 am ---- cheers.
#4: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: banboots, Location: AyrshirePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:36 am ---- Left is left no matter what way you look at it!!!! roflmao....
#5: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:37 am ----
banboots wrote:
Left is left no matter what way you look at it!!!! roflmao....
Is it left as you are sat in the car, or left as you look at it from the front
#6: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:55 am ----
Lee wrote:
banboots wrote:
Left is left no matter what way you look at it!!!! roflmao....
Is it left as you are sat in the car, or left as you look at it from the front
banboots is correct, the left hand side of the car is the left hand side of the car no matter what way you look at it
#7: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:57 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
Lee wrote:
banboots wrote:
Left is left no matter what way you look at it!!!! roflmao....
Is it left as you are sat in the car, or left as you look at it from the front
banboots is correct, the left hand side of the car is the left hand side of the car no matter what way you look at it
So if someone said to you "the battery is on the right hand side of the engine" you'd look where the ECU was? I think not
#8: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:11 am ----
Looking at the manual now, it says 'xxxxx of the engine compartment' when it refers to looking from the front.
Otherwise, it's as Lee said.
P.S. This should be stickied.
#9: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:17 am ----
Lee wrote:
E5GDM wrote:
Lee wrote:
banboots wrote:
Left is left no matter what way you look at it!!!! roflmao....
Is it left as you are sat in the car, or left as you look at it from the front
banboots is correct, the left hand side of the car is the left hand side of the car no matter what way you look at it
So if someone said to you "the battery is on the right hand side of the engine" you'd look where the ECU was? I think not
So if someone said to you "the battery is on the left hand side of the
car" you'd look where the ECU was? I think not.
#10: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:18 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
Lee wrote:
E5GDM wrote:
Lee wrote:
banboots wrote:
Left is left no matter what way you look at it!!!! roflmao....
Is it left as you are sat in the car, or left as you look at it from the front
banboots is correct, the left hand side of the car is the left hand side of the car no matter what way you look at it
So if someone said to you "the battery is on the right hand side of the engine" you'd look where the ECU was? I think not
So if someone said to you "the battery is on the left hand side of the
car" you'd look where the ECU was? I think not.
Mrs.V9977 would. I think so.
#11: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:19 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
Lee wrote:
E5GDM wrote:
Lee wrote:
banboots wrote:
Left is left no matter what way you look at it!!!! roflmao....
Is it left as you are sat in the car, or left as you look at it from the front
banboots is correct, the left hand side of the car is the left hand side of the car no matter what way you look at it
So if someone said to you "the battery is on the right hand side of the engine" you'd look where the ECU was? I think not
So if someone said to you "the battery is on the left hand side of the
car" you'd look where the ECU was? I think not.
They wouldn't say that though, as it isn't.
#12: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:25 am ---- You'll come across loads of problems if you refer to left as right, simply because you're looking at the car (engine bay) from the front looking towards the rear!!!
For example, if I stood at the side of the engine bay looking in, I might describe the radiator as being to my left and the scuttle to my right. But If I stood the other side.....
#13: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:25 am ---- Gets even more confusing if you're working underneath the car looking up.....
#14: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:27 am ---- Generally speaking you refer to body panels and the inside of the car as n/s = left, o/s = right
With the engine is n/s= right, o/s = left, as you look at the engine from the opposite perspective
#15: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:29 am ---- This thread is pure genius and I demand it being stickied immediately.
#16: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:30 am ----
Now which one is the left and which one is the right?
#17: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:42 am ----
V9977 wrote:
:rofl:
Looking at the manual now, it says 'xxxxx of the engine compartment' when it refers to looking from the front.
Otherwise, it's as Lee said.
P.S. This should be stickied.
It's not as Lee said at all. As describing the location of an individual item from a different view point to aid you finding it is totally different to what side of the car it's on. Ie the front left hand side wing of a 206 is in the same position on the car wherever you are in the world. Where as describing it as off side it's location would be dependent on where the cars being driven at the time.
#18: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:49 am ----
Lee wrote:
Now which one is the left and which one is the right?
I'm orthodox & it's definitely confusing training southpaws or taking people on the pads, but left is still left & right is still right. Soon learn as it can be painful when you call for a left (from your view point) & it comes from your right..
#19: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:54 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Looking at the manual now, it says 'xxxxx of the engine compartment' when it refers to looking from the front.
Otherwise, it's as Lee said.
P.S. This should be stickied.
It's not as Lee said at all. As describing the location of an individual item from a different view point to aid you finding it is totally different to what side of the car it's on. Ie the front left hand side wing of a 206 is in the same position on the car wherever you are in the world. Where as describing it as off side it's location would be dependent on where the cars being driven at the time.
1) It is as Lee said.
2) The reason I asked in the first place was because in the Haynes manual
there are references to both sides as Left or Right depending on what job is done and wether it is looking at the engine bay or sat in the seat.
3) I still don't know what the hell Outer side/Near side means in whatever part of the world, and what it describes. Near what? Driver? Passenger?
#20: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:01 am ---- Its near the kerb. So you can see how it changes according to whether you drive on the left or right side of the road, normally. Which makes it an ambiguous way to describe things.
#21: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:04 am ----
paul_c wrote:
Its near the kerb. So you can see how it changes according to whether you drive on the left or right side of the road, normally. Which makes it an ambiguous way to describe things.
cheers.
(heading changed)
#22: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Matt, Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:10 am ---- Common Sense really.
#23: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:12 am ----
paul_c wrote:
Its near the kerb. So you can see how it changes according to whether you drive on the left or right side of the road, normally. Which makes it an ambiguous way to describe things.
Matt wrote:
Common Sense really.
#24: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:32 am ---- describing positions on cars is very confusing. now i consider the left hand side of the car to be the drivers side. i know thats confusing but you judge it as when you are stood infront of the car looking at it. i cant say that is the 'peugeot way' as i have never worked in their main dealers but it is the BMW way and i would of thought it would of been kept as an industry standard
#25: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:10 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
V9977 wrote:
:rofl:
Looking at the manual now, it says 'xxxxx of the engine compartment' when it refers to looking from the front.
Otherwise, it's as Lee said.
P.S. This should be stickied.
It's not as Lee said at all. As describing the location of an individual item from a different view point to aid you finding it is totally different to what side of the car it's on. Ie the front left hand side wing of a 206 is in the same position on the car wherever you are in the world. Where as describing it as off side it's location would be dependent on where the cars being driven at the time.
It's a UK manual though, so it is based on RHD//LHT
So what I said is right regards to o/s and n/s
#26: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:12 am ---- Now I'm really stuffed..
What the hell is LHT?!
#27: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:14 am ---- left hand traffic
#28: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:17 am ----
Lee wrote:
left hand traffic
#29: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:18 am ---- isnt rhd and lhd easier? rht and lht confuses everything all over again lol
#30: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:21 am ----
greg.mitchell350 wrote:
isnt rhd and lhd easier? rht and lht confuses everything all over again lol
Yes, not to mention front and back of the vehicle.
#31: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:22 am ---- What about if you drive a mclaren F1 then it's CHD [centre hand drive]
#32: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:26 am ---- mclaren f1's just a show off lol
what about the GM electric concept car that had an electrical steering column and could switc sides! lol
#33: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:28 am ---- If I go an buy a corvette from the USA then that will be LHD but will need to be converted to LHT
Or if I buy a SEAT from Spain, that will need to be converted to LHT and Imperial
#34: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: greg.mitchell350, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:30 am ---- the world would be so much easier if all the stuborn countries gave into us and drove on the correct side of the road lol
#35: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:32 am ---- Do you know why we drive on the Left hand side?
And most countries who went independent from us, switched to LHD to match Spain
#36: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:55 am ----
Lee wrote:
Do you know why we drive on the Left hand side?
And most countries who went independent from us, switched to LHD to match Spain
Why?
#37: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:59 am ---- Many many moons ago, when people had horses and there was a lot of civil war etc with swords. 99% of people were right handed, so you always attacked with your enemy who was on coming on the right of you. So you could stab him with your right hand. And that pattern stayed, and just evolved and hence we drive on the left hand side, with oncoming traffic on the right.
A little bit of history there for you
#38: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:04 am ----
Lee wrote:
Many many moons ago, when people had horses and there was a lot of civil war etc with swords. 99% of people were right handed, so you always attacked with your enemy who was on coming on the right of you. So you could stab him with your right hand. And that pattern stayed, and just evolved and hence we drive on the left hand side, with oncoming traffic on the right.
A little bit of history there for you
And could you also explain why you have the hot water tap on the right?
I always burn my hands when I'm over there damit.
#39: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:08 am ----
greg.mitchell350 wrote:
describing positions on cars is very confusing. now i consider the left hand side of the car to be the drivers side. i know thats confusing but you judge it as when you are stood infront of the car looking at it. i cant say that is the 'peugeot way' as i have never worked in their main dealers but it is the BMW way and i would of thought it would of been kept as an industry standard
So in this country the left hand side of a BMW is the right hand side if it's RHD
So if I wanted a new wing for the left hand side of the car, I'd have to ask BMW for a right hand side one
#40: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:14 am ----
V9977 wrote:
And could you also explain why you have the hot water tap on the right?
I always burn my hands when I'm over there damit.
The hot water taps in my house are on the left, so are the hot taps in my girlfriends house.
#41: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:14 am ----
V9977 wrote:
And could you also explain why you have the hot water tap on the right?
I always burn my hands when I'm over there damit.
Is that as you look at it? Because my hot taps are on my left as I stand in front of them.
#42: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:16 am ---- Yeah infact, mine are on the left too as you look at it. Cold on the right.
#43: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:22 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
And could you also explain why you have the hot water tap on the right?
I always burn my hands when I'm over there damit.
The hot water taps in my house are on the left, so are the hot taps in my girlfriends house.
E5GDM wrote:
V9977 wrote:
And could you also explain why you have the hot water tap on the right?
I always burn my hands when I'm over there damit.
Is that as you look at it? Because my hot taps are on my left as I stand in front of them.
Lee wrote:
Yeah infact, mine are on the left too as you look at it. Cold on the right.
Ah, OK.
Weird, I have seen it on the right a few times over there.
Maybe just bad plumbing practice then.
#44: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:07 pm ---- Well on my 180 the battery was on the left hand side of the car
The same as the front left headlight was, funny enough, on the left hand side of the car. & if for example the MOT tester noted it wasn't working, he'd say the front left headlight wasn't working, (even on a BMW) despite the fact that as he looks at it it's on his right hand side.
Below is a photo of what I believe is the front left corner of my old car, but aparently if it was a BMW & according to some others on here it's actually the front right (shouldn't that be back right using that logic?), go figure!!
#45: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:37 pm ----
E5GDM wrote:
Below is a photo of what I believe is the front left corner of my old car, but aparently if it was a BMW & according to some others on here it's actually the front right (shouldn't that be back right using that logic?), go figure!!
You sure you didn't mirror the image somewhere in the process?
#46: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:08 pm ----
mtempsch wrote:
You sure you didn't mirror the image somewhere in the process?
not sure what your getting at, so if it helps that would now be the front right hand corner of my old car. IMO at least.
#47: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:50 pm ----
E5GDM wrote:
not sure what your getting at, so if it helps that would now be the front right hand corner of my old car. IMO at least.
Just kidding and trying to add another layer of confusion to the mix by flipping your image left/right.
And I do agree with your way of left/right... at least unless there's further specifications (like: <i>the battery is to the right as you open the hood and look into the engine bay</i>)
#48: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:32 pm ---- <Left ............................................................................... Right>
Is everyone OK with this way of doing it?
No?
#49: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Antknee, Location: ManchesterPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:35 pm ----
#51: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Antknee, Location: ManchesterPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:46 pm ---- yeah i was joking just trying to mix things up a bit
#52: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: KyleHaich, Location: Airdrie, Scotland.Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:47 pm ---- F**k me I'm confused lmao !
#53: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:50 am ---- RHD cars have better weight distribution around tracks - as most tracks run clockwise worldwide.
As most people are right-handed (and your right eye's vision is generally superior), RHD is safer than LHD.
#54: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:20 am ---- Its the "outer side" thats got me...... us old school blokes always refer to it as
#55: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:54 am ----
V9977 wrote:
Left is the Near side, Right is the Outer side mate.
Even in Greece?
#56: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:07 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
Well on my 180 the battery was on the left hand side of the car
The same as the front left headlight was, funny enough, on the left hand side of the car. & if for example the MOT tester noted it wasn't working, he'd say the front left headlight wasn't working, (even on a BMW) despite the fact that as he looks at it it's on his right hand side.
Below is a photo of what I believe is the front left corner of my old car, but aparently if it was a BMW & according to some others on here it's actually the front right (shouldn't that be back right using that logic?), go figure!!
You are completely twisting what I said
Battery on the left side of the engine
Battery on the left hand side of the car
.....are two COMPLETELY different sentences and perspectives
#57: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: fatboyslim, Location: Lincolnshire,Home of the RAFPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:10 am ---- What a pointless thread
It's simple...
To avoid confusion most people would say near side and off side
If you went and left your car somewhere and said the front left tyre's got a puncture
How would they know if you mean left from inside the car or left looking at the car?
So you'd say near side front or off side front that way there'd be no confusion
#58: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:49 am ----
macj wrote:
Its the "outer side" thats got me...... us old school blokes always refer to it as
#59: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:20 am ----
fatboyslim wrote:
What a pointless thread
It's simple...
To avoid confusion most people would say near side and off side
If you went and left your car somewhere and said the front left tyre's got a puncture
How would they know if you mean left from inside the car or left looking at the car?
So you'd say near side front or off side front that way there'd be no confusion
Hardly pointless as you at least don't get it.
How the hell is it confusing to say 'the front left tyre has a puncture'? The front of a car is the front no matter where you look at it from & is in the same place on the car the world over, the front of the car on it's left hand side
Your perspective might change, but the car stays constant.
#60: Re: Outer / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:27 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
fatboyslim wrote:
What a pointless thread
It's simple...
To avoid confusion most people would say near side and off side
If you went and left your car somewhere and said the front left tyre's got a puncture
How would they know if you mean left from inside the car or left looking at the car?
So you'd say near side front or off side front that way there'd be no confusion
Hardly pointless as you at least don't get it.
How the hell is it confusing to say 'the front left tyre has a puncture'? The front of a car is the front no matter where you look at it from & is in the same place on the car the world over, the front of the car on it's left hand side
Your perspective might change, but the car stays constant.
Totally agree with that.
Only thing I disagree with you on, is with regards to the engine, as generally speaking you refer to that when you are infront of the car. Like if you tell someone to change the pulleys that are on the left hand side of the engine, they will look at the drivers side not the passengers. And I'm sure 99% of the people would do the same.
#61: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:32 am ----
Lee wrote:
You are completely twisting what I said
Battery on the left side of the engine
Battery on the left hand side of the car
.....are two COMPLETELY different sentences and perspectives
& you are completely twisting what I said, I'm only saying that the left hand side of a car (for example) is constant. Ie it's always the left hand side of the car no matter what way you look at it. Just as the left hand side is always the left hand side of a ship or plane (or port to be more precise).
#62: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:39 am ---- So you're on holiday in France, its 4:50pm on Saturday and you're in the Alps and near the top and the car breaks down. You get out to look at it, and clearly, a component (lets say, the hub) on one side of the car has completely snapped in half and needs replacing. You call your European breakdown cover, the lady is French but speaks good English. She explains that a recovery/breakdown truck can be dispached from town and can pop into a local Peugeot dealer to buy the required part on the way, but only has 10 minutes to do so before the parts counter closes. And he's 2 hours away from you (you're in the Alps). If he comes to look at it and can't fix it, you'll be there for 2 days becuase nobody works on a Sunday.
How do you describe the part? Do you say its in front of you because you're facing the wheel? Left? Right? Driver's side? Offside? Outer side?
#63: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:50 am ---- Drivers front wheel
Passengers front wheel
Drivers rear wheel
Passengers rear wheel
EDIT: are we driving to france in a RHD car, or are we hiring one?
It would be
Front left/right wheel
Rear left/ right wheel
If I went over in a RHD
EDIT Again: Infact people who work for Peugeot won't ever order parts without the chassis number, so my first part still stands Last edited by Lee on Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:53 am; edited 2 times in total
#64: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:50 am ---- Bl**dy hell.
This is just rediculous now.
All I wanted is to bleed the brakes, quoting Haynes which is btw:
1) Left-hand front brake
2) Right-hand front brake
3) Left-hand rear brake
4) Right-hand rear brake
Job is now done.
Everybody go home please.
#65: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:51 am ----
Lee wrote:
Drivers front wheel
Passengers front wheel
Drivers rear wheel
Passengers rear wheel
He's in France. The lady would get the wrong part is his point I think.
#66: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: sx206, Location: essexPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:52 am ---- which is left or right looking at transverse engine.
#67: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:52 am ---- Read the edit
#68: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:00 am ----
Lee wrote:
EDIT Again: Infact people who work for Peugeot won't ever order parts without the chassis number, so my first part still stands
Even with the chassis #, they still have to describe which part is knakered in this case. Will they go on what the lady said (being in France) or the parts schedule for the car's VIN?
#69: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:15 am ---- OH MY GOD, NO........ NOOOO:
#70: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:23 am ---- Pin out's are generally always the opposite away around, as they are based on the PCB inside, and it would be the right way around on the PCB
#71: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: fatboyslim, Location: Lincolnshire,Home of the RAFPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:30 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
& you are completely twisting what I said, I'm only saying that the left hand side of a car (for example) is constant. Ie it's always the left hand side of the car no matter what way you look at it. Just as the left hand side is always the left hand side of a ship or plane (or port to be more precise).
Well I know what I mean and you're wrong!!
Left is different depending how you look at the car
Looking from the front left is <<
<<OO===OO
From drivers seat left is the opposite side
You also proved your theory wrong by bringing ships and planes into the equation on them left is port and right is starboard,the reason planes/ships ahve port/starboard is to avoid any confusion as to what is left or right
It's universally accepted Port and Starboard are terms which refer to the left and right sides (respectively) of a ship or aircraft as perceived by a person on board facing the bow
#72: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:01 pm ---- Inner and outer isn't left and right. For example, you can have a left inner CVJ, right inner CVJ, left outer CVJ and right outer CVJ.
I hope I don't need to buy any handed parts off people from here!
#73: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:06 pm ---- Ok work this one out:
My daily driver isn't RHD, but if a passenger comes with me, he/she sits to the left. I change gear with my right hand, although I can select reverse with my left.
#74: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:08 pm ---- Tractor
#75: Re: Which is 'Left side' in Haynes? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:40 pm ----
fatboyslim wrote:
E5GDM wrote:
I'm only saying that the left hand side of a car (for example) is constant. Ie it's always the left hand side of the car no matter what way you look at it. Just as the left hand side is always the left hand side of a ship or plane (or port to be more precise).
Well I know what I mean and you're wrong!!
Left is different depending how you look at the car
Looking from the front left is <<
<<OO===OO
From drivers seat left is the opposite side
You also proved your theory wrong by bringing ships and planes into the equation on them left is port and right is starboard,the reason planes/ships ahve port/starboard is to avoid any confusion as to what is left or right
It's universally accepted Port and Starboard are terms which refer to the left and right sides (respectively) of a ship or aircraft as perceived by a person on board facing the bow
OMG
You must be winding me up!!
THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF A CAR IS ALWAYS GONNA BE THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE CAR no matter what view point you take as the sides aren't moving, you are. After all the back doesn't become the front if you reverse, does it?
& God knows how other modes of transport not having switchable sides has proved me 'theory' wrong.
Or do you think if you shake hands with your right hand everybody else uses their left? Or how about the lower left hand side cowling on a motorbike? According to you it would become the lower right hand side one if you move to the front. & what if you turn it upside down? It would then be the upper left or upper right. You have your side shifting view, I'll stick to my way.
#76: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: Matt, Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:14 pm ---- Of the car, left hand side is called the near side (passengers) the car being RHD. Eg the near side rear wheel is on the left side.
Of the engine, left hand side is off side (drivers) as you look into the engine bay. Eg the ECU is in the left hand side.
#77: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:24 pm ----
Matt wrote:
Of the car, left hand side is called the near side (passengers) the car being RHD. Eg the near side rear wheel is on the left side.
Of the engine, left hand side is off side (drivers) as you look into the engine bay. Eg the ECU is in the left hand side.
I've nearly got it now
'of the car' what I just call 'the left' is actully quite simply & not confusingly at all known as 'the near side or passengers side the car being RHD'.
Just to finally clear up my confusion, please could you confirm what the left side of a car is called on a LHD being driven on the left & the right hand side of a RHD in France & the right hand side of LHD being driven in the US is. Thanks for clearing that up, as I can't believe I've been lucky enough to get away with just saying things like the front left or back right all these years all over the world.
Ps, I take it it's the same for all cars & vehicles?
#78: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:40 pm ---- Anybody see 'Wheeler Dealers' tonight?
Mike Brewer was in America buying a DeLorean.
While there he went to a parts warehouse for a few bits, here's a transcript of part of a conversation he had-
Mike Brewer- "one of the rear light lenses is broken & I need to replace it".
Salesman- "OK, left or right?"
Mike Brewer- "Left".
Salesman- "Left, ok".
I couldn't believe it , to avoid any confusion why didn't Mike simply say 'it's the nearside one for where I'm going to use the car, but untill i get there it's the off side one. But if I'm standing at the front of the car it's the right hand one as well as being on the drivers side as it's LHD'.
#79: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: Matt, Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:02 pm ---- On a LHD left and right are the same but I'd imagine near side become the right side and offside becomes the left.
EDIT: Presuming that the LHD is not being driven on the left hand side of the road.
#80: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:29 pm ----
#81: Re: Off side / Near side? Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:18 pm ----
paul_c wrote:
So you're on holiday in France, its 4:50pm on Saturday and you're in the Alps and near the top and the car breaks down. You get out to look at it, and clearly, a component (lets say, the hub) on one side of the car has completely snapped in half and needs replacing. You call your European breakdown cover, the lady is French but speaks good English. She explains that a recovery/breakdown truck can be dispached from town and can pop into a local Peugeot dealer to buy the required part on the way, but only has 10 minutes to do so before the parts counter closes. And he's 2 hours away from you (you're in the Alps). If he comes to look at it and can't fix it, you'll be there for 2 days becuase nobody works on a Sunday.
How do you describe the part? Do you say its in front of you because you're facing the wheel? Left? Right? Driver's side? Offside? Outer side?
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