#1: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:10 am ---- Ok so this morning i was driving the car and noticed when pressing the brake, i could here a grinding noise from the rear of my car . Now im not sure whether if this is my brakes or anything else. I have a 206 1.4 V reg which has done 64k im not sure if that all matters.
If it was the brakes, how could i check them myself? and what types of brakes will they be at the rear of my car?
All advice is appreciated.
Thanks in adavance
#2: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:17 am ---- Drums on the back.
Drums removed check / clean the shoes, it might also need the brake shoes replacing as the friction linings do come unstuck.
#3: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:25 am ---- Thank you mr bsi,
Is it a hard job? is it costly? its my first car so im unsure about everything...
what do i check for to no if they are worn?
Sorry im asking loads of questions
#4: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:29 am ----
dsiingh wrote:
Thank you mr bsi,
Is it a hard job? is it costly? its my first car so im unsure about everything...
what do i check for to no if they are worn?
Sorry im asking loads of questions
Wheel of then undo the big nut in the middle, pull the drum of & have a look.
Shoes are cheap enough from motor factors if needed, might also need wheel cylinders if there leaking.
Unless you are 100% sure what your doing then its a job for a mechanic / garage, you DON'T mess around with brakes!
From the sounds of it you need a mechanic / garage to have a look.
#5: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:51 am ---- Sounds similar to mine. The shoe lining had come off as Mr BSI says.
Mine had been sticking on for a couple of weeks, then one day my foot went to the floor and the car didn't slow down. New shoes were £17 (Bosch), got the seals for the brake cylinders and new hub nuts for both sides for less than a fiver. Most expensive part was the taxi to the motor factors.
Took about an hour to do both sides.
#6: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:55 am ---- I have my drums of once a year at service time to clean the dust out & check everythings still ok inside, part of my yearly service.
#7: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:31 am ---- I read all the comment too late..i went off to have a look, i only managed to get the wheels off i was baffled from there on wards so i put the wheels back on..im off to the mechanics tomro or today..i just need to find a good mechanic.
If it is the brake drums etc would it cost me more than 100quid ?
#8: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:35 am ---- There's a silver dust cap in the middle of the drum & behind that is a BIG nut that holds the drum on.
Your drums will be fine, it's most likely just the shoes & there cheap as parts, add in an hours labour roughly to do the job for a garage / mechanic.
Sometimes the rear wheel cylinders leak as they get older, if it needs those replacing as well then parts cost will rise slightly but as its a 206 & simple PSA Peugeot / Citroen parts bin stuff there cheap enough.
#9: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:39 am ---- it all sounds interesting...i did see the silver dust cap...wasnt to sure how to take it off and if i did i thought i wouldve broke the thing..il best leave it for a mechanic....will they charge on getting it checked out first ?
#10: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:41 am ----
dsiingh wrote:
it all sounds interesting...i did see the silver dust cap...wasnt to sure how to take it off and if i did i thought i wouldve broke the thing..il best leave it for a mechanic....will they charge on getting it checked out first ?
Dust cap pops of & if your careful enough you can reuse it.
Hub nuts should technically be only used once & make sure there torqued then staked correctly after fitting.
Most places wont charge to have a look if they then get to carry out the repair work they quote you for.
#11: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: namgaj, Location: Chasing Ash, Addaz and Lee........... hopefully catching Addaz and havin fun :PPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:53 am ---- Ah the simple job of removing a rear drum............ mine were a NIGHTMARE to get off, resorted to a puller in the end. As MrBSI says, I would strongly recommend revoval of the drum yearly, if only to stop it seizing, also does'not hurt to get a bit of brake cleaner in there;)
#12: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:53 am ---- I tightened the wheels back up as much as i could i even stood on the wheel spanner to tighten it back up...wel thats ok.i was thinking of takin them around kwik fit first as they have brakes 4 life..thank you mr bsi.
#13: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:58 am ----
dsiingh wrote:
I tightened the wheels back up as much as i could i even stood on the wheel spanner to tighten it back up...wel thats ok.i was thinking of takin them around kwik fit first as they have brakes 4 life..thank you mr bsi.
You should invest in a torque wrench. Overtightening wheel nuts can be as bad as leaving them loose, worse still, if you have alloys, you can damage the wheel.
Manufacturers have torque settings for a reason, you should use them.
Don't go to Kwik Fit, they are the biggest cowboys out there. The spotty teenager that gets hold of your keys will be lucky to have a GCSE, never mind a qualification to work on the brakes of a car. I wouldn't let them change the wheel on a shopping trolley.
#14: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: kingsway2468, Location: swanseaPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:24 am ---- dont go to kwik fit theyre a joke i usualy adjust my shoes throught the wheel bolt hole you can see a little coil spin that it adjusts the shoes when you take off the big nut tap the drum with a hammer nd it will just pull off watch the wheel bearing doesnt fall out and break though
but as people are saying if youre unsure take to garage you dont want to fcuk about with breaks
#15: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: deebee, Location: BirminghamPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:30 am ---- i had similar problem when i aplly brakes i here a ticking noise then if i release and apply it goes? its so strange!
#16: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: fatboyslim, Location: Lincolnshire,Home of the RAFPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:58 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
Don't go to Kwik Fit, they are the biggest cowboys out there. The spotty teenager that gets hold of your keys will be lucky to have a GCSE, never mind a qualification to work on the brakes of a car. I wouldn't let them change the wheel on a shopping trolley.
A Kwik Fit Brake Technician HAS to pass the course which last 5 days,If you don't pass the course you're NOT allowed to even touch brakes
In fact Kwik-Fit fitters are star graded from 1 to 5 each grade is proficient in different aspects you MUST pass all the courses to graduate to the next level
ALL Kwik-Fit courses were developed in conjunction with the AA and use recommended AA and manufacturer guidelines
So you're wrong the fitter doing you're brakes should have a qualification
Kwik-Fit do actually offer a free brake check, they are a bit expensive,but you get the lifetime guarentee
#17: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:01 am ---- Good info there fatboyslim. The free brake check - do they measure the thickness of the discs and tell you what it is? I know mine are getting worn and are due for replacement, but if Kwik Fit can measure the thickness it would save me buying the micrometer do measure it myself. I'd be replacing the components myself, though.
#18: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:18 am ----
fatboyslim wrote:
macca1411 wrote:
Don't go to Kwik Fit, they are the biggest cowboys out there. The spotty teenager that gets hold of your keys will be lucky to have a GCSE, never mind a qualification to work on the brakes of a car. I wouldn't let them change the wheel on a shopping trolley.
A Kwik Fit Brake Technician HAS to pass the course which last 5 days,If you don't pass the course you're NOT allowed to even touch brakes
In fact Kwik-Fit fitters are star graded from 1 to 5 each grade is proficient in different aspects you MUST pass all the courses to graduate to the next level
ALL Kwik-Fit courses were developed in conjunction with the AA and use recommended AA and manufacturer guidelines
So you're wrong the fitter doing you're brakes should have a qualification
Kwik-Fit do actually offer a free brake check, they are a bit expensive,but you get the lifetime guarentee
They might be graded, but that's no guarantee the manager or who ever is in charge at the time not giving the job to the apprentice. They are in the business of quick turn around, get the car in and get it out. If no qualified technician is available, it goes to the next person free. My mate took his van in (only because the leasing company have a contract with them) to get a tyre changed, they said he needed new brakes and shock absorber. He booked it in at Merc, they took one look and gave him the keys back. There was nothing wrong with with the brakes or shocks, the only thing they found wrong was a twisted tyre.
I sat outside a carpet place waiting for my delivery slot. Next to me was a Kwik Fit. 4 people in Kwik fit overalls were throwing wheel weights at each other in the car park. No thought for the cars parked up or the fact they were next to a main road.
Fills you with confidence to take any type of vehicle to a Kwik Fit fitter.
#19: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:00 pm ---- Ok so kwik fit is a no no....thanks for the heads up everyone...I think i need to invest in a few tools if im going to own a car for as long as i plan to drive....i just hope the problem isnt too pricey..could anybody on the forum near birmingham do this for a price?
#20: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: namgaj, Location: Chasing Ash, Addaz and Lee........... hopefully catching Addaz and havin fun :PPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:38 pm ---- Yep, a mate at work needed new discs and pads all round "apparently" - they charged him £500 ish and only fitted rear discs, the fronts werent changed, Id never use them.
#21: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: mtempsch, Location: Gothenburg, SwedenPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:19 am ----
paul_c wrote:
it would save me buying the micrometer do measure it myself. I'd be replacing the components myself, though.
I see yhat you since the quoted post sensibly have removed Kwik fit from the alternatives and sre thinking of tools - for the precision required to measure brake pads a micrometer is way overkill. A cheapo plastic caliper (labelled 'standard' in this pic would do just fine...
For more general use I'd go for one in steel. One with digital readout is easier to read (not that a normal one is very hard once you know how the vernier scale works) and also allows yo to directly (w/o math/thinking) do comparative measurements as you can zero the display at any position and get +/- readouts from there.
#22: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:19 am ---- Thanks everyone for the advice...I wont be going to kwikfit...however today...i noticed the grinding sound went away after half an hour of driving...not sure if it was just me though....anyway i will be taking it to the mechanics...
#23: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:32 am ---- Just go to your local friendly mechanic, there the grafters who will do the job right for a decent price to try and keep custom.
Why I still use same mechanic, decent price, reliable and competent!
#24: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:21 pm ---- ok so i went to a few mechanics today the prices wer relatively the same,
One gave me a quote for ferado parts not sure if they are good parts..the parts came to 70pounds and then labour is 35pounds and then vat on top.
Another gave a quote which included parts and labour including vat for 114pounds
and another gave me a quote for 89.95 for a single drum and shoe...the third mechanic took the car for a test drive and said that there maybe alot of dirt in the drum which could cause grinding...he also said hell re adjust the handbelt cable...
im not too sure sure who to go for....
#25: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:32 pm ---- Definitely don't go to the one that quoted for the single drum and shoe. Shoes come as an axle set and should be changed as a set. Any garage that just change one side is ripping you off.
What parts have the others quoted for. You shouldn't really be spending more than £30 for a set of decent rear shoes.
If you're willing to pay £100 for the job it's tempting to buy he shoes, have a drive to West Mids and do the job myself. Even taking fuel into consideration, I'll still be £50 up.
#26: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:36 pm ---- also should i get the drums changed or just the shoes?
#27: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:41 pm ---- ok well im just looking at the quote for 89.95 and it says "STRIP THE REAR BRAKES, REPLACE THE WORN REAR BRAKE SHOES, REFIT BACK UP & ADJUST AS REQUIRED." so i think i may have misunderstood it and thought it was just a single shoe.
And the cost of the rear shoes is 33.74
#28: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: sx206, Location: essexPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:55 pm ---- do the job yourself,find someone willing to show you,or get a manual.you could teach a monkey to do the brakes on your car in less than half hour.you only know what parts you need once drum is off.will cost peanuts this way.and you will never have to listen to crap from places like quick fit for as long as you own a car.
#29: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:04 pm ---- I could do the job myself..but buying the parts + tools will probably cost alot more then 90quid and i wont have some sort of guarantee
#30: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: sx206, Location: essexPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:34 pm ---- 32mm socket for hub nut,13mm spanner for handbrake adjuster,pliers for springs and hand brake cable,hardly gonna brake the bank.the knowledge gained will be worth a small fortune over time.as for guarantee,mmm. it realy is a piece of mate.
#31: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: pug206lx, Location: Taking a gearbox off somewherePosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:39 pm ---- A garage may charge you a labour cost to have a look but it depends on the garage. Ask first.
It won't take them long to strip them down, if you need parts though you'll be looking at parts cost plus labour costs.
Normally garages have an hourly rate and will work out the cost from this.
#32: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:10 pm ----
dsiingh wrote:
One gave me a quote for ferado parts not sure if they are good parts
Ferodo are top quality.
When ever you need brake pads / disc's / shoes look for either Ferodo OR Brembo.
Its very rare you would need to ever replace the drum itself.
#33: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:38 am ---- MrBSI you are like the wikipedia for all of my information...and thanks to everyone who has posted on this topic.....my first two quotes both quoted for the changing of drums...however my thirdquote only posted for the shoes and was for 89.95 thats a whopping saving of 20-30quid....
So i should only get the shoes changed?
#34: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:42 am ---- Until the drums are removed to get a look inside at the brakes you wont know what needs replacing BUT its very rare you ever need to actually replace the drum itself.
Only when they are excessively worn or gone oval do they need replacing, very rare for this to happen.
#35: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: sx206, Location: essexPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:56 am ---- [quote="fatboyslim"
A Kwik Fit Brake Technician HAS to pass the course which last 5 days,If you don't pass the course you're NOT allowed to even touch brakes
In fact Kwik-Fit fitters are star graded from 1 to 5 each grade is proficient in different aspects you MUST pass all the courses to graduate to the next level
ALL Kwik-Fit courses were developed in conjunction with the AA and use recommended AA and manufacturer guidelines
So you're wrong the fitter doing you're brakes should have a qualification
Kwik-Fit do actually offer a free brake check, they are a bit expensive,but you get the lifetime guarentee[/quote]
the course does indeed last five days,for 4.9 days your taught to identify faults that don't exist,and how to keep a straight face.then and only then do you get your bronze star.
#36: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: fatboyslim, Location: Lincolnshire,Home of the RAFPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:09 am ----
sx206 wrote:
[quote="fatboyslim"
A Kwik Fit Brake Technician HAS to pass the course which last 5 days,If you don't pass the course you're NOT allowed to even touch brakes
In fact Kwik-Fit fitters are star graded from 1 to 5 each grade is proficient in different aspects you MUST pass all the courses to graduate to the next level
ALL Kwik-Fit courses were developed in conjunction with the AA and use recommended AA and manufacturer guidelines
So you're wrong the fitter doing you're brakes should have a qualification
Kwik-Fit do actually offer a free brake check, they are a bit expensive,but you get the lifetime guarentee[/quote]
the course does indeed last five days,for 4.9 days your taught to identify faults that don't exist,and how to keep a straight face.then and only then do you get your bronze star.
Hmmm not quite,you're taught how to identify faults and what checks to do,it is actually a good course
Like I've said before on his forum the problem is the staff get a bonus based on sales obviously the manager is expected to ensure his centre is running at least to targets,if not then he gets a bollocking from the area manager and the fitters get no bonus
meet targets=get bonus
exceed targets=get BIG bonus
Of course this means some unscrupulous managers/fitters use unethical/dodgy ways of bumping up sales,as a Kwik-Fit fitter you are trained to always look for other things which could be done
when changing tyres the wheel come off and you're told to check the discs/pads,brake lines and shox
A manager of a branch localish to me was actually sacked for dishonesty it was well known that he personally would check customers cars (especially old people and single women) he always found something else wrong,quite often it was 'leaking shox',he was caught out as due to complaints a test car was sent by trading standards which had a puncture,the fitter set about fixing it and the manager told the young lady he would personally go and ensure the fitter was doing a good job whilst in the fitting bay he went and looked in the wheel arch and saw oil all over the arch lining, so fearing leaking shox he checked them and sure enough they were leaking,told the women then came the salesmans spiel about dangerous blah-blah waffle b******s...costs £195 per pair but I can do a pecial deal..blah-blah...z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z...
Nyway being a Trading Standards Officer she said she didn't know but she would have a word with her husband and left
Trading Standards then took the car and inspected the said faulty shox and found...wait for it...
...
...
they were fine,the manager had sprayed them with WD-40 so it looked indeed like they were leaking!!
Things like this happened a lot as well as other unethical practices
best and easiest targets were
1) OAP's-normally have a bit of spare cash and know jack about cars
2)Women with kiddies-mention crash,children,death in the same sentance and most women would ok anything (even anal for blaconbomber )
3) Women in general-the majority of women know jack about cars,before anyone says I'm a male chauvanist pig,look at how many women ring the AA/RAC to have wheels changed!!
TBH this is one of the main reasons I left Kwik-Fit I have morals and don't like to rip people off,oh and the fact I called the manager a fuc*ing tw*t then punched him didn't really help!!
#37: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:09 am ---- Most decent local garages build up a reputation of good work and they get a lot of word-of-mouth recommendations. So much so that they're normally quite busy, so tend to become fully booked and simply don't need to generate extra work.
#38: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: fatboyslim, Location: Lincolnshire,Home of the RAFPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:18 am ----
paul_c wrote:
Most decent local garages build up a reputation of good work and they get a lot of word-of-mouth recommendations. So much so that they're normally quite busy, so tend to become fully booked and simply don't need to generate extra work.
Too true
I'm lucky I have a friend who owns a garage,excellent reputation,decent prices excellent service he also does call outs for Green Flag and occasionally the AA
Dwonside is he's always busy and you need to book a couple of weeks in advance ( saying that he's always managed to get me sorted in a couple of days)
#39: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: sx206, Location: essexPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:37 am ---- my take on this site is to share info regarding the 206,to suggest someone takes their car to quick fit, quite frankly is a crime.mentioning that you get mates rates from certain places is not really helpful either.if the poster lived anywhere near me i would gladly show them how simple this job is.its impossible for someone to price your rear brakes with out taking the drum off.
#40: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:40 am ----
sx206 wrote:
my take on this site is to share info regarding the 206,to suggest someone takes their car to quick fit, quite frankly is a crime.mentioning that you get mates rates from certain places is not really helpful either.if the poster lived anywhere near me i would gladly show them how simple this job is.its impossible for someone to price your rear brakes with out taking the drum off.
Soz
#41: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: sx206, Location: essexPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:16 am ---- soz
Nonsensical internet slang term for "sorry", used by illiterate morons who for some reason substitute a “z” for “rry”, the latter of which would take an entire quarter of a second to type out.
#42: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:17 am ----
sx206 wrote:
soz
Nonsensical internet slang term for "sorry", used by illiterate morons who for some reason substitute a “z” for “rry”, the latter of which would take an entire quarter of a second to type out.
Calm down ladies its only a forum.
#43: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:24 am ----
sx206 wrote:
soz
Nonsensical internet slang term for "sorry", used by illiterate morons who for some reason substitute a “z” for “rry”, the latter of which would take an entire quarter of a second to type out.
A bit longer than the time it takes to use proper grammer and punctuation, for example using a capital letter to start a sentence after a full stop.
sx206 wrote:
my take on this site is to share info regarding the 206,to suggest someone takes their car to quick fit, quite frankly is a crime.mentioning that you get mates rates from certain places is not really helpful either.if the poster lived anywhere near me i would gladly show them how simple this job is.its impossible for someone to price your rear brakes with out taking the drum off.
#44: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:26 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
sx206 wrote:
soz
Nonsensical internet slang term for "sorry", used by illiterate morons who for some reason substitute a “z” for “rry”, the latter of which would take an entire quarter of a second to type out.
A bit longer than the time it takes to use proper grammer and punctuation, for example using a capital letter to start a sentence after a full stop.
sx206 wrote:
my take on this site is to share info regarding the 206,to suggest someone takes their car to quick fit, quite frankly is a crime.mentioning that you get mates rates from certain places is not really helpful either.if the poster lived anywhere near me i would gladly show them how simple this job is.its impossible for someone to price your rear brakes with out taking the drum off.
Also a space after a comma or full stop.
But thats just being picky
#45: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:32 am ---- I think some people try too hard to be Toms "d**k of the Week"
#46: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:34 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
I think some people try too hard to be Toms "d**k of the Week"
Not sure if thats aimed at me or the other guy lol
#47: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:39 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
macca1411 wrote:
I think some people try too hard to be Toms "d**k of the Week"
Not sure if thats aimed at me or the other guy lol
You're just Toms b*a**h, the rest of us are just used and abused by him.
#48: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:40 am ---- Oh, thats ok then
#49: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:42 am ---- I don't think minor spelling or grammatical errors matter, so long as it is easily readable and understandable. I've been on forums ages and sometimes posts are written so poorly, its a real struggle to understand them, but the examples with errors above aren't too bad. After all, if they made it a condition of joining a forum to have a GSCE in English, a lot of useful content wouldn't be here (and probably a larger amount of useless stuff too....)
#50: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:45 am ----
#51: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:20 pm ---- Ok well i got the car to the mechanic and they opened it and they said the brakes were fine and in good condition with plenty of rubber left on them...they cleaned the drum out and charged me 20 20quid. im happy
#52: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: sx206, Location: essexPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:05 pm ---- not a bad result,and sounds like you found an honest mechanic.keep his n0.good luck.sorry about the grammar.
#53: Re: Griding noises when braking Author: dsiingh, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:49 am ---- yup i ws well chuffed. they did quote me 85quid for new wheel cylinders they said the wheel cylinders wer a little moist, and they even showed me the shows and drums...very good mechanics i must say...they also quoted me 49.99for an interim service
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. Now im not sure whether if this is my brakes or anything else. I have a 206 1.4 V reg which has done 64k im not sure if that all matters.
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