#1: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:32 pm ---- i have noticed every time i go to start my 206 it will stall striaght away , i have to put my foot on the throttle pedal to start , and also it stalls every time i change gear , what could be causing this problem . its had a ecu reset and no change. its a 1.1 2003
#2: Re: wont tick over Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:33 pm ---- ICV
#3: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:27 pm ---- i thort that may be the problem i did try and unplug it and plug it in while it was running and didnt make any diffrence , it will only tick over at 450rpm , ive adjusted the throttle for the time being until i get 5 mins to take it out and give it a clean
#4: Re: wont tick over Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:51 pm ---- ICV or TPS
#5: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:20 pm ---- toke the icv out gave it a clean and replaced oring. still no change , i pushed the plunger all the way in thinking the engine will rev when first started but it didnt :S is there any way of testing the throttle position sensor? i no when i have my obd scanner plugged in it does read the position throttle ok.
#6: Re: wont tick over Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:57 pm ---- Think the tps is part of the throttle housing. Whats the condition of the throttle housing ie clean/dirty? Have you cleaned the map sensor aswell?
#7: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:58 pm ---- the throttle housing is in good condition , ive never cleaned the map sensor . how do you do that?
#8: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:01 pm ---- when i toke the icv out there was some gunge around the plundger but not anything to worry about
#9: Re: wont tick over Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:03 pm ---- guessing its an 8v? its on the left hand front of the inlet with wires going into it. It should have a couple of screws in it.
#10: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:13 pm ---- yep i no were it is. i just toke it out it did have a bit of oil on it so blew what i could and cleaned as best as possible and still running low idle :S were the ecu has been reset so many times it wouldnt of lost its memory on were to tick over? just a possibilty
#11: Re: wont tick over Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:17 pm ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
yep i no were it is. i just toke it out it did have a bit of oil on it so blew what i could and cleaned as best as possible and still running low idle :S were the ecu has been reset so many times it wouldnt of lost its memory on were to tick over? just a possibilty
Clean everything with carb cleaner mate, not anything like wd40 as its oil based. Doesnt matter how many times you reset the ecu as its written on a chip to put it crudely.
Have you had the plugs out to see what condition theyre in?
#12: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:21 pm ---- the plugs r only a month old as i fitted bosch super 4s but i will check tomorrow , i will clean the map , icv and tps and plugs and see what happens.
just want to add its only started playing up since i filled up with petrol from some were else as i normally go to shell but went to asda this time Last edited by dumdum0910 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:22 pm; edited 1 time in total
#13: Re: wont tick over Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:22 pm ---- if you can get a know good coilpack aswell, itll rule that out aswell.
#14: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:24 pm ---- i want to try and resist buying a coil pack as i dont have that kinda money at the moment
#15: Re: wont tick over Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:27 pm ---- no one on here who has the same coilpack that would let you try it?
#16: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:30 pm ---- ill ask about
#17: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:59 am ---- found out 1 of my mates has the same coil pack on his motor so tested that and it still ran like crap. so toke apart the throttle body and found it all full of crap. so just waiting for my old man to come back with some carb cleaner .
#18: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:10 am ---- cleaned the throttle body , map , icv , tps and still running bad . ive noticed when it does tick over the revs go up and down . could this be the tps ?
#19: Re: wont tick over Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:20 am ---- guess you'll be best off try a NEW ICV then if it doesnt sort it, id get it to a garage mate.
#20: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:43 am ---- after i gave it a run i plugged it in to the obd scanner and it came up idle control system so ordered 1 fingers crossed it fixes it
#21: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:18 pm ---- so got a new icv , fitted and made it even worse . revs went straight to 3000 rpm then down to 2000 and started bouncing between 2000 and 2500 :S so toke it off and sent it back as a faulty part, now waiting for another 1 to be delivered
#22: Re: wont tick over Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:07 pm ---- 48-62ohms between pins A and D
48-62ohms between pins B and C
#23: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:08 pm ---- which pins what? and is that while engine is running or with just ignition on
#24: Re: wont tick over Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:18 pm ---- On the ICV when it's removed.
#25: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:35 pm ---- right so let me get this right. with the engine off remove the icv with it still connected and check the ohms between the pins ?
#26: Re: wont tick over Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:16 pm ---- No.
Remove the ICV and check the ohms on the pins on the ICV
#27: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:27 pm ---- ok i will do that tomorrow and see what happens
#28: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:13 am ---- so checked the old icv pin A and D 47ohm , B and C 47 ohm and with the plunger pushed in A and D 46.8ohm and B and C 46.8 ohms. does this mean the icv is knackered or come the problem be else were?
#29: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:28 am ---- could some one advise me on what the temp sensor should be reading? ohms?
#30: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:57 pm ---- so replaced the icv again with another new replacment. it was fine for about a second then revs slowly went up to 3krpm i gave it another ecu reset and bsi reset and no change so put in original icv. im now lost on what else it could be. much help appreciated, i have now noticed once its had a run and i leave the car ticking over it will idle normal but once i go to move again and stop at a junction it will run crap again.
#31: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:00 pm ---- Replaced the coolant temp sensor yet?
Check / clean the engine ecu connectors, get all the silicone grease out of there.
Might be worth getting the engine ecu software updated, Peugeot main dealer time, get the BSI software updated as well.
#32: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:03 pm ---- lack of funds is stopping me from getting the updates i havent replaced the coolant temp yet. and i will clean the ecu connectors tomorrow. whats the best thing to use on this ? carb cleaner? also when i pluged my obd scanner in again today it came back up wit p0505 idle control systems. what temp sensor would it be as mine has 2. green and blue .
#33: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:07 pm ---- Green one is normally the one the ecu uses to get its coolant temp info.
#34: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:08 pm ---- ok when i disconnected the green 1 earlier the fan kicked in so surely thats for the fan?
#35: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:58 pm ---- the 206 seems to be running alot better now ive cleaned the connectors on the ecu. will see how it runs tomorrow when its cold
#36: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:29 am ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
ok when i disconnected the green 1 earlier the fan kicked in so surely thats for the fan?
Green is normally coolant temp sensor for ecu on PSA.
You tried the blue one unplugged?
#37: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:15 am ---- nope as was dark when i looked and means taking out the air box and other bits. the 206 seems to be running ok now so aint going to bother worrying now
#38: Re: wont tick over Author: kakaruto, Location: Mansfield NottinghamPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:20 am ---- if it still runs like crap with revs bouncing and not being stable then i would try the 02 sensor
as this is the same thing that happened with me when i had a different car...
#39: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:26 am ---- Really needs an exhaust emmisions test & looking at the readings before you start changing things like the lambda sensor.
#40: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:45 am ---- so the problem has come back again ... tick over back down to 400rpm and ive noticed every time it stalls there's a resistor clicking on the bsi.
#41: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:09 pm ---- this is what its doing on start up
but when im out driving and come up to a junction it will sit up 400rpm and run rough or just stall, ive also just done another fault scan and it cams up idle control systems again but when i replaced the icv last week it made it worse .
#42: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:24 pm ---- Sounds very rough, is that a misfire I can here at start up as well?
#43: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:36 pm ---- it sounds like its missfiring but it aint. just rough idle
#44: Re: wont tick over Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:37 pm ---- Have a look thru these
#45: Re: wont tick over Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:38 pm ---- and these
#46: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:43 pm ---- cheers lee but my laptop wont let me download the links :S
#47: Re: wont tick over Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:44 pm ---- Allow pop-ups and turn off anti virus
#48: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:48 pm ---- done , it will only let me download the second 1 , data 2
#49: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:10 pm ---- All 5 download & open fine for me
Always wondered why there was that plastic deflector fitted above the passenger side headlamp
#50: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:13 pm ---- what are you using mr bsi ? internet explorer , google chrome? also what software you using to open the link
#51: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:16 pm ---- IE 9 everytime for me, none of that chrome crap & you need something like Win rar to open the files.
#52: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:16 pm ---- thats what im using :S it just seems to open a link with a page full of writing like a code
#53: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:17 pm ---- Right click, save target as, then open it with Win rar
#54: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:21 pm ---- And check data 5 file especialy regarding EGR valve.
#55: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:21 pm ---- i will try that in a sec, when you open it with win rar does it then open with abode reader? as mine seems to be
#56: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:22 pm ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
i will try that in a sec, when you open it with win rar does it then open with abode reader? as mine seems to be
Yes, I just then save it as a PDF file, I hate Win rar
#57: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:31 pm ---- The relay clicking is normal if the engine stops.
You vid reminds me very much of our problem but more severe,
with more symptoms after warm-up no?
Also check your engine temp sensor with the diag tool if you can, by looking at live data.
#58: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:32 pm ---- dumdum0910 - that video takes me back to 2005 when my 206 used to idle poorly then cut out at random, ahhh the memories
#59: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:33 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
dumdum0910 - that video takes me back to 2005 when my 206 used to idle poorly then cut out at random, ahhh the memories
And the solution was...
#60: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:35 pm ---- managed to get all the links open and had a look through cant really see anything in there. and im sure my 1.1 doesnt have a egr? if thats the remote cansister? i will go have a look now on live date at the temp sensor
#61: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:35 pm ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
managed to get all the links open and had a look through cant really see anything in there. and im sure my 1.1 doesnt have a egr? if thats the remote cansister? i will go have a look now on live date at the temp sensor
It does.
#62: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:38 pm ----
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
dumdum0910 - that video takes me back to 2005 when my 206 used to idle poorly then cut out at random, ahhh the memories
And the solution was...
Throw it back at a Peugeot main dealer until they fixed it under manufacturers warranty.
Could have been 1 or more of the 24 visits it had back to the dealer for various warranty work in the last year of the manufacturers warranty period that fixed it.
#63: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:40 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
dumdum0910 - that video takes me back to 2005 when my 206 used to idle poorly then cut out at random, ahhh the memories
And the solution was...
Throw it back at a Peugeot main dealer until they fixed it under manufacturers warranty.
Could have been 1 or more of the 24 visits it had back to the dealer for various warranty work in the last year of the manufacturers warranty period that fixed it.
Ah, OK. Last edited by V9977 on Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:35 pm; edited 1 time in total
#64: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:43 pm ---- Lost count of the amount of engine ecu & BSI software updates it had under warranty
Not had a software update since Dec 07, might have to get an update in the new year
#65: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:49 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Lost count of the amount of engine ecu & BSI software updates it had under warranty
Not had a software update since Dec 07, might have to get an update in the new year
I'm taking mine in next week.
Last update on ECU was in 2004.
#66: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:49 pm ---- checked the live data the coolant temp seems to be ok.. i noticed the timing seems to be up and down. went down to 7% and as high as 16% not sure if this was to do with the idle being up and down
#67: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:53 pm ---- I think that might be normal as it depends on the rpm at any given moment.
I would check the EGR cannister valve as in the info flash as it gives instructions without replacing anything, just to make sure.
#68: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:56 pm ---- were is the egr on the 1.1 tu1jp ? dont wanna sound dumb.
#69: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:58 pm ---- I think it would be on the rear-left hand side looking at the engine bay tucked away somewhere.
Someone else might have a better idea.
Looks like a coke can with hoses going into it.
Might be under the wheel arch too.
#70: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:04 pm ---- ok i will have a look tomorrow, i dont really understand what it says on the link , which pipe do you remove? the 1 from the engine that goes in to the valve or another 1 and how to you plug the tapping in the valve to check its working?
#71: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:13 pm ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
ok i will have a look tomorrow, i dont really understand what it says on the link , which pipe do you remove? the 1 from the engine that goes in to the valve or another 1 and how to you plug the tapping in the valve to check its working?
As your symptoms are quite severe, I would just see if it makes any difference using finger as suggested in the first instructions.
I don't know which of the two pipes but I would imagine the one that has the valve on it.
This is all just to make sure, not a definate fix obviously.
Keep at it though.
#72: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:16 pm ---- just had a quick look. found the valve beind the coolant bottle toke the pipe off the valve , put my finger on it had some good sucktion , removed my finger and seems to run normal at 1000 rpm , replaced the pipe back on the valve and it runs crap again, think ill b visiting peugeot on monday to get a replacment
#73: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:18 pm ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
just had a quick look. found the valve beind the coolant bottle toke the pipe off the valve , put my finger on it had some good sucktion , removed my finger and seems to run normal at 1000 rpm , replaced the pipe back on the valve and it runs crap again, think ill b visiting peugeot on monday to get a replacment
Hope you get it sorted mate and let us know for future ref.
#74: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:19 pm ---- will do mate, i will get to peugeot monday morning and get it ordered in
#75: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:26 pm ---- Wait, 1000 rpm is still high. Is your engine cold?
It says in the instructions "during the first minute" etc.
Have a good look at the bahaviour before you order any parts to make sure.
Normal idle should be at 750 rpm line when engine is warmed up.
#76: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:28 pm ---- yep engine is pretty cold . i will be giving it a run tomorrow so i will check it then
#77: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:29 pm ---- OK.
Best of luck.
#78: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:36 am ---- done the test with the purge valve disconnected and made no diffrence , the revs just sat at 1000rpm and didnt settle down.
#79: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:59 am ---- just removed the canister it seems to be in fairly good condition, i also disconnected the map sensor and started the engine , and it ran ok, i then pluged it back in while running and the revs whent up slightly , is this normal?
#80: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:57 am ---- It's the valve that gets stuck open or closed, its not a problem with the canister.
Try taking pipe off, starting engine for a couple of minutes then block the pipe manualy with a bung and see
how it behaves. Note there are two pipes, send/return you have to do the one with the vacum on it.
#81: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:59 am ---- there is 1 that comes from the canister that goes through the valve then the other pipe goes off to the inlet , i was just thinking ive been having problem with the eml coming up for the catalyst, could this have something to do with it?
#82: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:02 am ---- What was the code?
#83: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:05 am ---- at the moment its coming up wit p0505 - idle control systems (ive tried new icv and it just makes it rev to 3000rpm and then bounces ), but every 3 weeks it comes up with P0420 Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)
#84: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:16 am ---- If its throwing up P0505 surely that idicates problem with ICV.
I would have left the new ICV in there, making sure its the proper one and air sealed properly
and take it from there. You could have a couple of problems at the same time making it difficult to diagnose
what is going on. So take it step by step is the only thing you can do.
P0420 is on about your cat but since it says Bank 1 maybe the λ-probe before the cat has a problem.
I would also check thoroughly all the wiring to make sure nothing is choped.
#85: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:24 am ---- but when i replaced the icv the revs go straight up to 3000 rpm then back down to 2000rpm and bounce between 2000 and 2500 , so it makes it a bit difficult to drive , it also does this when it has a ecu reset. i did check the original icv on the meter and pin a/d read 47 ohms and the same with pins b/c which indicates the icv is in working order.
#86: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:15 am ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
but when i replaced the icv the revs go straight up to 3000 rpm then back down to 2000rpm and bounce between 2000 and 2500 , so it makes it a bit difficult to drive , it also does this when it has a ecu reset. i did check the original icv on the meter and pin a/d read 47 ohms and the same with pins b/c which indicates the icv is in working order.
Resistance readings could be OK and yet the mechanical opperation be up the spout.
If there was a change of behaviour with the new ICV, that could mean there is something more which needs fixing as well as the ICV.
You are going to have to take it one by one I think.
#87: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:23 am ---- i might just give up and take it to peugeot . get them to look at it or sell it and drive my sisters motor for the time being
#88: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:26 am ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
i might just give up and take it to peugeot . get them to look at it or sell it and drive my sisters motor for the time being
What is your sister's car?
#89: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:28 am ---- 1.2 16v clio
#90: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:32 am ---- That should be quite economical if the need arises, but I would suggest you keep at it
as it can be sorted and then you will have a nice pug.
Best of luck mate, hope you sort it and let us know.
#91: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:21 am ---- think ive fixed it. will find out tomorrow when the engines cold. watched a vid on youtube and it said something about make sure the plunger is 1 1/8" out . so i went to my old mans place picked up the new icv made sure it was that far out and it ran smooth fingers crossed
#92: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:37 am ---- So all was fine this morning . Car started fine ran smooth drove to heathrow . Sat for 2 hours started fine again . Drove home went to start it again after 10minutes and the revs shot straight up to 3000rpm then down to 2000rpm and started bouncing will have a look later.
#93: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:08 am ----
sorry about rubbish pic , you can see in the pic the bit of plastic is missing , ive left it to glue and will see what happens tomorrow
#94: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:09 pm ---- Make sure you have a good tight seal around the ICV.
Should come with a new seal ring.
And clean all the crap off there while you're at it.
#95: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:13 pm ---- it did come with a new seal i just put a bit of multi purpose grease around it to make sure it was sealed . typical i get it running perfect then the throttle body decides it wants to fall apart
#96: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:25 pm ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
it did come with a new seal i just put a bit of multi purpose grease around it to make sure it was sealed . typical i get it running perfect then the throttle body decides it wants to fall apart
Oops..
The only grease you should be using on rubber seals is either silicon grease, or dry-type PTFE. Otherwise you're compromising it's sealing ability and it will dissolve the rubber over time.
I would thoroughly clean it all off and wash the sealing ring with dish-soap and warm water.
Looks like you're getting there though..
#97: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:28 pm ---- im gunna clean it all off and start again tomorrow. i might put a bead or silcone sealer around it . i no this works as ive used it before on other cars .
#98: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:35 pm ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
im gunna clean it all off and start again tomorrow. i might put a bead or silcone sealer around it . i no this works as ive used it before on other cars .
OK. But let it set first.
There is one hell of a vacum there as I found out when I nearly got my hand sucked-in a throttle body, and it was only a 1.4
Good luck.
#99: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:42 pm ---- i will dont worry , im going to a car show on saturday so will take my time with it
#100: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:42 pm ---- i will dont worry , im going to a car show on saturday so will take my time with it
#101: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:46 pm ----
dumdum0910 wrote:
just want to add its only started playing up since i filled up with petrol from some were else as i normally go to shell but went to asda this time
Its taken 7 pages to get to this vital bit of new info.
#102: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:47 pm ---- gives people something to read
#103: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:49 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
dumdum0910 wrote:
just want to add its only started playing up since i filled up with petrol from some were else as i normally go to shell but went to asda this time
Its taken 7 pages to get to this vital bit of new info.
Oh..
Where was this post?
#104: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:55 pm ----
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
dumdum0910 wrote:
just want to add its only started playing up since i filled up with petrol from some were else as i normally go to shell but went to asda this time
Its taken 7 pages to get to this vital bit of new info.
Oh..
Where was this post?
Someones been editing on here
#105: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:00 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
dumdum0910 wrote:
just want to add its only started playing up since i filled up with petrol from some were else as i normally go to shell but went to asda this time
Its taken 7 pages to get to this vital bit of new info.
Oh..
Where was this post?
Someones been editing on here
Maybe they feel it's not as relevant as initialy thought.
But it might be.
#106: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:05 am ---- Any result with this mate?
#107: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:44 am ---- fitted the replacement throttle body and it came with a icv and tps , ran fine last week. went out last night and decided to start playing up again. plugged my obd in and it came up idle control systems again... fitted a new icv that i had and still didnt wanna no. i think my car is jinxed
#108: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:42 pm ---- When my car does actually tick over properly - matter of seconds it sounds like the exhaust is ppopping . Is this normal ?
#109: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:55 pm ---- ECU?
#110: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:24 pm ---- I'm goin to be taking it to a peugeot specalist next week see what they say
#111: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:40 pm ---- OK, GL.
#112: Re: wont tick over Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:56 pm ---- Software update if it hasnt had one already.
#113: Re: wont tick over Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworthPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:44 pm ---- i think i may do that aswell. im going to be giving this garage a ring tomorrow on my lunch break and see if i can pop in after work and see what they say. also what metre readings should i be looking out for if i connect a multimetre to the icv plug. loom end
#114: Re: wont tick over Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:00 pm ----
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sorry about rubbish pic , you can see in the pic the bit of plastic is missing , ive left it to glue and will see what happens tomorrow
