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#1: 206 brake bleeding Author: rick-gti, Location: welshpool, mid wales PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:40 am
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When bleeding the brakes am I best to do it with the engine running or with it not?

#2: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:46 am
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Leave the engine off and use a eze bleeder

#3: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: chilipepper, Location: Armadale, West Lothian PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:57 am
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just read about the eze bleeder - is it as easy at it seems?

#4: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:34 am
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chilipepper wrote:
just read about the eze bleeder - is it as easy at it seems?

Yes, just read the instructions before use Wink

#5: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: ronnie, Location: Lanarks PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:12 am
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Replaced a rear axle (drums) and could not get fluid to come thro when bleeding
Tried and tried but nothing.........

then used an EZE Bleeder.........job done in minutes
Can't praise this product enough

#6: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:23 am
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Lee wrote:
Leave the engine off and use a eze bleeder

Is that definate?

Also what about ABS? Anything to bear in-mind about that when bleeding.

I have a Sealy pressure-bleeding container with a hand-pump and gauge..

#7: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: rick-gti, Location: welshpool, mid wales PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:30 am
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I use the old fashion method of gettin sum 1 to press the pedal while I open the nipple. All done now, breaks feel alot firmer.

#8: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:45 am
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rick-gti wrote:
I use the old fashion method of gettin sum 1 to press the pedal while I open the nipple. All done now, breaks feel alot firmer.

Very easy to ruin the master cylinder seals with this method as most people will just pump the pedal all the way to the floor repeatedly Laughing

#9: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: paul_c, Location: UK PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:48 am
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MrBSI wrote:
rick-gti wrote:
I use the old fashion method of gettin sum 1 to press the pedal while I open the nipple. All done now, breaks feel alot firmer.

Very easy to ruin the master cylinder seals with this method as most people will just pump the pedal all the way to the floor repeatedly Laughing

I'd rather find a fault with my master cylinder seals in the workshop, than the first time I need to do an emergency stop! yes, its possible to damage the seals but if you're gentle, and only go about 70% of the way with the pedal, you should be fine. Also, a one-way valve on a tube clipped over the bleed nipple makes it a one man job, and much quicker.

#10: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:30 am
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paul_c wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
rick-gti wrote:
I use the old fashion method of gettin sum 1 to press the pedal while I open the nipple. All done now, breaks feel alot firmer.

Very easy to ruin the master cylinder seals with this method as most people will just pump the pedal all the way to the floor repeatedly Laughing

I'd rather find a fault with my master cylinder seals in the workshop, than the first time I need to do an emergency stop! yes, its possible to damage the seals but if you're gentle, and only go about 70% of the way with the pedal, you should be fine. Also, a one-way valve on a tube clipped over the bleed nipple makes it a one man job, and much quicker.

Much as I hate to admit it I'm with BSI on this.
You can stress it, not find-out immediately in the garage, then later have it clap-out at the worst possible moment.

Oh, and:

V9977 wrote:
Lee wrote:
Leave the engine off and use a eze bleeder

Is that definate?

Also what about ABS? Anything to bear in-mind about that when bleeding.

I have a Sealy pressure-bleeding container with a hand-pump and gauge..

#11: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: paul_c, Location: UK PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:47 pm
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If you're paranoid about the seals going, you can move the brake pedal through the normal amount of movement you'd normally use, at the normal speed. Even if the worst happens, master cylinders have secondary seals and 2 circuits.

#12: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:54 pm
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paul_c wrote:
If you're paranoid about the seals going

Its not that, on here I wouldnt trust 75% of the people to bleed brakes the old fashioned way without cocking it up, remember the typical 206 owner we get on here these days Wink

#13: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: rick-gti, Location: welshpool, mid wales PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:26 pm
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I have allways used this method and never had a problem. I never press the pedal all the way to the flool. Brakes feel better now. Changing discs and pads next month.

#14: Re: 206 brake bleeding Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:31 pm
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Ive never had a problem bleeding brakes the old way BUT there is plenty of people on here I wouldnt trust not to make a complete balls up of the operation using the pedal pumping bleeding method.



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