#196: Re: Andrew's XU10 ITB 206 Project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:58 pm ---- So nearly a year since I posted on this thread. Sim told me that my photo bucket pictures have been restored by the admin here so I am really grateful. I still have the car, and whilst progress has been slow earlier this year things are now getting a move on. What started as treating some surface rust in the arches has turned into a bit of a nut and bolt jobby. Currently the subframe is removed and off for shot blast and powdercoating.
Here are some pictures of things going on at the moment:
#197: Re: Andrew's Project Author: RoweY, Location: MiddlesbroughPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:47 pm ---- What did you use on the rust mate ? my 180's starting to rust in the exact same spot
#198: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Rubyoptics, Location: Warsaw - PolandPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:05 pm ---- These build threads are a real inspiration. Thank you
#199: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm ---- For the rust I used: (all Bilt Hamber)
Deox Gel to kill the rust (multiple applications)
Electrox primer (zinc rich anti corrosion)
Hydrate 80 on any remaining stubborn bits and pitted areas
Electrox again
Going to apply Epoxy mastic and then Dynax UB to basically throw the kitchen sink at it and hope that it buys me some time before it reappears.
The gearbox is currently with my friend at Autocare Dudley for him to swap the 5th gear for one that I sourced from a Citroen AX 4x4 (smallest 5th gear available) to drop the revs at 70mph by around 500rpm. He also has my hub knuckles to remove the wheel bearings so that they are powdercoated before new bearings are fitted.
I have wishbones that have been fitted with Powerflex bushes also! More pictures as and when. Cheers folks.
#200: Re: Andrew's Project Author: VorTechS, Location: Gloucestershire, UKPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:46 am ---- Dude. Awesome.
#201: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:14 pm ---- Moving along with some updates. So with the engine bay pretty much empty the subframe was sent away to the powdercoaters.
As part of my detailing business I sometimes apply ceramic coatings and a job I did this week was as spraying the coating onto the alloy wheels, so this has given me an idea to coat the subframe and all of the little bits before they go back on.
Next up I sent my gearbox to the mechanics to change the 5th gear, but as I found out they need to be changed in pairs. Peugeot printed this diagram and said I might have to change the whole line and they don't make the synchro anymore. But I think, looking at it, that just changing the gear that it marries to will work. For anyone interested in MA boxes (lol) the Citroën AX 4x4 was the only model to have a 0,66 sized 5th gear. This gearbox being from a 1.1 needs this change to bring the revs down at 70mph. This hasn't turned out to be a cheap job at all.
Lastly, and I feel guilty for spending money like this but what with the Corbeau seats, a matching steering wheel had to be done. Custom Control are the people that did they work, taking a standard wheel and doing a reshape and retrim as I wanted it. The idea was that I wanted something that didn't upset the police if I get pulled over, so keeping the airbag was a better idea than a racing wheel.
#202: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:43 pm ---- Literally amazing, I think you're the first one ever who applied ceramic coating to the subframe (how does the 180 differ from the rest BTW?)
Interested as to how the coating will fare on the alloys, as they get abused the most.
And if I ever decide to mod the steering wheel, l'll certainly consider Custom Control. Airbag's the top priority, looks is the 2nd
For OEM clean projects I'd go with something like www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263481970434 but this particular one on eBay looks slightly off-colour
#203: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:10 am ---- The 180 subframe was required when I was going to run the XU10 as it is slightly different shaped for how things all fit together, no real upgrade as such.
Yes a ceramic coating on alloys can easily last 2 years!
You're right, can never be too safe (from crashes and the police).
Last night I got some epoxy mastic applied inside the arch.
#204: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:26 pm ---- Doesn't the 180 subframe have mounts for the exhaust on It?
#205: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:10 pm ---- Sadly I didn't have it long enough to study it!
A couple more bits from the powdercoaters. The matching 5th gear has been ordered straight to the garage.
#206: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:34 pm ---- More updates. For my 106 rallye inlet I needed a cylinder head with matching port spaces, so I found one on eBay months ago. It's just come back from NWS Motor Services after a full clean, skim and 3 angle valve seats cut. I have sent my front calipers off for refurbishment at BCS Automotive, and I have purchased some Ferodo Ds2500 brake pads from Addaz t/a Chafer Racing Developments. A local company called [name removed] are currently in the process of making an adaptor to enable my FBW throttle body to fit the rallye inlet, complete with reducer pipe so there is no 'step'. My gearbox is back from the 5th gear change too.
Fancy steering wheel has been fitted. Very race car much swanky.
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#207: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Sim, Location: West CountryPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:07 pm ---- Wow loads of developments ongoing! Keep 'em comin'!
I'm at a crossroad of the best underbody sealing practices:
How to prevent rust from coming back from within (=remove current spots completely). Not considering acid, but have you blasted your arches with soda/sand/aluminium grains or just trust the convertor?
If I choose a self-curing gunk-base sticky solution (like Dinitrol), it won't ever chip, but will be a pain to remove in case a repair work needs carrying out
If I choose hardening solution (like Hammerite or the products you used), they most probably will chip due to elements or body flex, unless the combination of layers is carefully picked and applied correctly
So I'm eagerly waiting for when you'll put your rust-proofing to the road test
PS: just noticed a cringe-worthy pun above: trust -> t-rust
#208: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:19 pm ---- Hey Sim, where the rust treatment was concerned I used most of Bilt Hamber's products. To start, Deox Gel to remove the rust, reapplying over and over. From there, Electrox primered the whole area, applying Hydrate 80 converter on previously rusted areas, and then Electrox over again. A layer of Epoxy Mastic was applied, and then more recently a layer of Satin Black paint over the top. Rust is never 100% treatable but you can always bide some time.
#209: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:41 pm ---- [name removed] have finished their work on the inlet adaptor and just waiting on rubber gaskets to be made. DTA S80 Ecu can run FBW.
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#210: Re: Andrew's Project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:36 pm ---- Front calipers back from full refurbishment.
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