ECU S2000-PL4FC5 (EEprom 95160) 9655659480 . PSA 9656972780
Part Number 21585264-8A
Almost one week my car can not start because immobiliser is function.
Scanning On PP2000 :
Problem detected when transmitting unlock code, Engine immobiliser code can not be read,
ECU status Locked.
all ECU's tested and running well within the "global test" and found no errors.
In the "Engine ECU" is mentioned - PP2000 unknown reference, Ecu being referenced (this may be due to the ECU was locked so that communication does not exist)
All system wiring and connectors in good condition.
I can communicate with the Engine ECU via Test by ECU (KFW S2000) I can read all parameters, but the ECU will remain locked
Trying to make learning the transponder, and succeeded. Ican change status of the BSI from locked in to unlocked, the transponder can be recognized but the ECU is still locked: ((
In my opinion. Eprom in the ECU 96160 S-2000-PL4FC5 that store immo code was corupted. So the ECU immo code can not be read by the BSI.
The problem that I would ask is:
Maybe anyone has any fresh dump for my Engine ECU?
In the Engine ECU, Memory EPROM used is 95 160. What software can I use to check or examine its EPROM dump. because I see a lot of outstanding software can only read eeprom 95080 in S2000.
Or reading "95160" is equal to the reading of "95080"? Example of the software immo killer
Can I do a re-coding for my ECU or maybe Immo off for it (S2000-PL4FC5)?
Before and after that I say many thanks to you all
Sincerely Regards ....
I attach some screenshots of PP2000
Last edited by millanz on Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
#2: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:04 am ---- 1) No need to post your VIN
2) Aerial on ignition barell definately OK?
3) You can always re-flash the ECU with the latest software but not sure
how much it would help in this case.
#3: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:43 am ---- I think I have a virgin dump, will check.
Don't forget to correct checksum when using universal software
#4: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:40 pm ----
V9977 wrote:
1) No need to post your VIN
2) Aerial on ignition barell definately OK?
3) You can always re-flash the ECU with the latest software but not sure
how much it would help in this case.
Thank mate..
1. Ok friends ... I will edit my post ....
2. Yes ... all works very well ... transporder well recognized ... can be seen in the attachment below.
3. When i try to download the software for the ECU. PP2000 mentioned that there is a new version for solving the problem of "knocking problem".
#5: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:59 pm ----
Lee wrote:
I think I have a virgin dump, will check.
Don't forget to correct checksum when using universal software
Thank you master ...
My friend, you are truly my savior.
I use Willem Prog / PonyProg to open the dump file in the EPROM 95160. About your virgin dump, It still requires re-coding or already in the unlock? I hope I get way out of this problem.
Actually my car has been put into the nearest Peugeot dealer., But after working for almost a week they can not provide a clear conclusion .. huffffffffff ... They were asked to replace ecu but they do not want to guarantee that it will solve the problem ...... , so finally, I pull my car back to my garage.
regards
#6: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:09 am ---- Were they not able to update/re-program the ECU with PP2000 at the dealer's?
#7: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:20 am ---- Post thedump and I'll remove or virginse the data
#8: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:55 am ----
Lee wrote:
Post thedump and I'll remove or virginse the data
Cool.
#9: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:48 am ----
V9977 wrote:
Were they not able to update/re-program the ECU with PP2000 at the dealer's?
Yes. we certainly can update the software at authorized dealers, but i believe they certainly do not want to re-code immo via dump techniques.
If we buy a Brand New ECU, only authorized repair shop who can do the reprogramming software from scratch (or maybe someone got access to PSA ). It because they have our car history, configuration data and other related matters.
The new ECU has only one chance for coding pin and when an error occurs it will be a big problem (dump techniques maybe the solution). Corect me if i am wrong ... friend
#10: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:53 am ----
Lee wrote:
Post thedump and I'll remove or virginse the data
Thanks you so much. I'll try to take the dump file tomorrow .. My Hot Air Gun possible in less than optimal conditions are now . Preparing to look for another one tomorrow afternoon ...
regards
#11: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:27 am ----
Lee wrote:
Post thedump and I'll remove or virginse the data
hi friend
I need your help and assistance. thank you for your kindness
#12: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:32 am ---- Hi,
You don't have a PIN programmed into that dump
Yours.....
Pin Programmed in.......
Immo off.......
See the difference?
I can upload the files, but not sure if they will work as I think the original dump might be corrupt
#13: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:47 am ---- You cant beat a good dump in the morning
#14: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:12 am ----
Lee wrote:
Hi,
You don't have a PIN programmed into that dump
I can upload the files, but not sure if they will work as I think the original dump might be corrupt
Yes, I understand the difference. It's likely the file has been corrupted. I hope you can upload that file, so I can try to do the writing process to the chip. I will report the results as soon as possible to you friend ....
What if I have the raw files from the Peugeot 206 S2000-PL4FC5 ECU? whether it will become easier or the same result?
thank you very much.
#15: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:20 am ---- Here are the two files.
The one with the pin programmed in, and the one with the immo off.
I'll PM you the password
#16: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:26 am ---- thank you so much Lee... will be back soon with the result
#17: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:30 pm ---- I have tried to write the dump file. but all failed either to immo off and programmed pin.
Scanning On PP2000 :
Problem detected when transmitting unlock code, Engine immobiliser code can not be read,
ECU status Locked.
Last chance is a file that is still virgin. This afternoon I will try to do it by trying to set parameters via PP2000
regards
#18: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:53 am ---- virgin file work perfect... just need re-configuration on nearest dealer.. (because my lexia don't have acces to psa ).... will be come back with the result....
#19: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:04 pm ---- Should be able to go on replacement parts
#20: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:21 am ----
Lee wrote:
Should be able to go on replacement parts
yoaiii bro....
I've returned from the garage. Finally my car was running well, but there are few errors listed in pps.
- Fan can not spin when the temperature is reached, checked via pps (actuator) fan to normal operation both low-speed or high speed.
- The fuel gauge has not shown the correct position.
Thanks for the help of this forum, especially prof. Lee.
Thank you for all your help and time you've given me. salute ...
regards
will be back again for result...
#21: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:30 am ----
millanz wrote:
Lee wrote:
Should be able to go on replacement parts
yoaiii bro....
I've returned from the garage. Finally my car was running well, but there are few errors listed in pps.
- Fan can not spin when the temperature is reached, checked via pps (actuator) fan to normal operation both low-speed or high speed.
- The fuel gauge has not shown the correct position.
Thanks for the help of this forum, especially prof. Lee.
Thank you for all your help and time you've given me. salute ...
regards
will be back again for result...
For the fuel gauge reboot the BSI, if that doesn't work then the BSI needs updating.
Is the fan code a permanent or intermittent?
#22: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:19 am ---- most likely it is intermittent fault ..
I will perform the procedure BSI Reboot now.
I will check via PPS now ....
#23: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:59 am ---- - Finnally, The Fuel Gauge functioning normally after BSI REBOOT
- Apparently there is no voltage from the altenator. After I checked, there was a short circuit in the altenator caused by oil leaks from power steering. Tomorrow I will disassemble the altenator to look for damage. Most likely it is impacting on the work of fans and headlamp. I did a test with a multimeter reads the voltage 11.75v and I think that's not enough.
Regards
#24: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:10 am ----
millanz wrote:
- Finnally, The Fuel Gauge functioning normally after BSI REBOOT
- Apparently there is no voltage from the altenator. After I checked, there was a short circuit in the altenator caused by oil leaks from power steering. Tomorrow I will disassemble the altenator to look for damage. Most likely it is impacting on the work of fans and headlamp. I did a test with a multimeter reads the voltage 11.75v and I think that's not enough.
Regards
When alternator is running you should have >14V on the battery.
How would power-steering oil cause a short though?
It might well have caused damage,or belt slipping but..
#25: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:44 am ----
V9977 wrote:
How would power-steering oil cause a short though?
Well known issue on TU engined 206's when the head gasket leaks oil, if the oil then gets inside the alternator it can damage / ruin it
Power steering fluid will do the same if it gets inside the alternator.
#26: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:59 am ----
V9977 wrote:
When alternator is running you should have >14V on the battery.
How would power-steering oil cause a short though?
It might well have caused damage,or belt slipping but..
there is a leak in the gasket, and it resulted in broken altenator. trying to find a replacement for the altenator regulator, and clean up oil on the altenator.
#27: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:09 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
How would power-steering oil cause a short though?
Well known issue on TU engined 206's when the head gasket leaks oil, if the oil then gets inside the alternator it can damage / ruin it
Power steering fluid will do the same if it gets inside the alternator.
Yoai... you right bro...
For all TU engine users are advised to check the condition of the power steering pump, it is because if there occurs a short circuit caused by leakage of oil into the altenator, it will harm the electrical system and the most severe can result in a fire in the engine room.
Regards
#28: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: millanz, Location: australiaPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:32 pm ---- SOLVED...........................
Thanks
#29: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:55 am ---- this is a very good thread,and a very important problem,Lee you done a great job as you always do my friend
#30: Re: IMMO Problem Peugeot 206 1.4 2006 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:10 am ---- Another satisfied customer.
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, so finally, I pull my car back to my garage.
. Preparing to look for another one tomorrow afternoon ...
