#1: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: ramigojag, Location: worcestershirePosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:34 pm ---- Im going in to change my timing belt tomorrow, was looking on the computer at work today at the instructions for it and it says to "change VCT sensor" i assume they mean VVT sensor unless someone can confirm otherwise
Anyone know why they recommend changing it?
Is it really necessary?
Thanks
#2: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:41 pm ---- Never heard of vvt sensor needing changing tbh.
Presumably you know how difficult it is to change the cambelt on a 180 and the tools you need? It's like a 4-hour job.
You might as well change the water pump too, as well as the fanbelt.
#3: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: ramigojag, Location: worcestershirePosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:44 pm ---- Yeah ive looked into it dont worry lol, havent heard of the fanbelt but ill look at mine tomorrow ive got the water pump and all the right locking tools for the engine.
This software is pretty crap tbh its like a danish version of AutoData but it was free and right up to date
#4: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:50 pm ----
ramigojag wrote:
Yeah ive looked into it dont worry lol, havent heard of the fanbelt but ill look at mine tomorrow ive got the water pump and all the right locking tools for the engine.
This software is pretty crap tbh its like a danish version of AutoData but it was free and right up to date
the fanbelt is 'just in case' you need it, it's relatively cheap and you can probably return it [unused] if yours isn't worn. It's easily replaced whilst the engine's in bits lol.
don't forget the antifreeze
#5: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: ramigojag, Location: worcestershirePosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:01 pm ---- Thanks for the tip.
I wont lol cheers
#6: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:10 pm ---- ld-automotive.com/down...20belt.pdf
#7: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: ramigojag, Location: worcestershirePosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:18 pm ---- Cheers for that i might print it off, will probably be able to figure it out when we've got it in front of us (its not just me, me and my boss)
#8: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:23 pm ---- 307 - same engine -= ld-automotive.com/down...embly).pdf
#9: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:03 pm ---- Its more than a 4 hour job! Try all day
#10: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: crocdino, Location: LeedsPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:04 am ---- Just to make sure anyone else looking at this thread.. Make sure you do the water pump! Had my cambelt done 2 weeks ago and the bearings were shot in the waterpump - was very stiff to turn! Would of only being a matter of time before it took the belt out.!
#11: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: HDI90, Location: sunny stokePosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:04 am ----
imjeeves wrote:
Its more than a 4 hour job! Try all day
It is only a 4 hour job, not a bad job at all
#12: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:23 am ---- It's amazing the rubbish some people talk on here! I would say it is almost impossible to do the belt on a 180 in four hours. You almost have to remove the engine to get access to the belt unless you have abnormally small hands
#13: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:29 am ----
imjeeves wrote:
It's amazing the rubbish some people talk on here! I would say it is almost impossible to do the belt on a 180 in four hours. You almost have to remove the engine to get access to the belt unless you have abnormally small hands
Just have a fight about it.
Personally I think if you have not done a cambelt on a 180 before it will take you much longer than 4 hours....unless your some kind of wizard.
#14: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:10 am ---- It's impossible to get the covers off with the engine in place...meaning the workload is bigger.
Beware of the bottom pulley too, some of which are held on with a keyway, other aren't!
#15: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: ramigojag, Location: worcestershirePosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:50 am ---- Well ive only been working in a garage for a year now (still an apprentice) i did probably about 6 hours work on it and im only half way through, going to finish it in the morning, the actual procedure is not that complicated just awkward spaces to get your hands into.
To get the covers off i had to drop off an engine mount by the ECU tray and just support it from underneath
#16: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: wasssssup, Location: west midsPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:04 pm ---- Is it really necessary to do that last bit on the printout about turning the crank pully after putting the belt on?
#17: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:06 pm ---- Presumably its to make sure the belts on correctly?
#18: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: ramigojag, Location: worcestershirePosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:07 pm ---- I think because if its been timed wrong turning the crank by hand will not damage anything whereas if you start it and its timed wrong....
Woops
#19: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: wasssssup, Location: west midsPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:46 pm ---- no i mean the repositioning of flange bit at the end is that really necessary as it looks like you need a lot of special tools to do it lol
#20: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:57 am ----
wasssssup wrote:
no i mean the repositioning of flange bit at the end is that really necessary as it looks like you need a lot of special tools to do it lol
Pay someone else to do it then.
#21: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:16 am ----
wasssssup wrote:
no i mean the repositioning of flange bit at the end is that really necessary as it looks like you need a lot of special tools to do it lol
I think you only need to do that if the holes don't line up again after fitting the new belt and turning it over by hand! I know when I did the CCs (138bhp), everything was fine and holes lined up fine. I even had a local Pug/Citroen specialist have a look as he was around sorting my air con.
Took me about 6 hours, but I took my time as I wanted it to be right! Getting the covers on/off requires some dexterity!
#22: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: ramigojag, Location: worcestershirePosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:53 am ----
gazza82 wrote:
wasssssup wrote:
no i mean the repositioning of flange bit at the end is that really necessary as it looks like you need a lot of special tools to do it lol
I think you only need to do that if the holes don't line up again after fitting the new belt and turning it over by hand! I know when I did the CCs (138bhp), everything was fine and holes lined up fine. I even had a local Pug/Citroen specialist have a look as he was around sorting my air con.
Took me about 6 hours, but I took my time as I wanted it to be right! Getting the covers on/off requires some dexterity!
Too true i think thats probably the hardest part about the change
#23: Re: 206 GTI 180 Timing Belt Change Author: SAB206, Location: North WestPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:07 pm ---- It's not the best job in the world to do, usually takes more than 4hours unless there is prior experience.
the first time i had mine done, they locked the exhaust cam in the wrong pin, making it be 1 tooth out, but it made a big difference on noise/performance, so make sure everything is locked up solidly and double check everything...you don't want to be doing it twice.
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