#1: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: kris_19, Location: mgarrPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:52 am ---- hi any suggestions of what turbo should i us erm t3?? t3/4 ?? and what injectors i have tu use along with a remap obviosly...10x allot..
#2: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:26 am ---- t3 or even t3/4 you will have a huge turbo lag, not good on a low rev diesel
#3: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: kris_19, Location: mgarrPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:09 pm ---- mm tought so as well..... what do you think is the ideal??
#4: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:17 pm ---- what kind of power are we talking about?
#5: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: kris_19, Location: mgarrPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:19 pm ---- im my mind i hve a progect that is 150-160 bhp i know how to go in that area but i tought to climb up a bit more..mabe 180...??...thats why i tought of a larger turbo..
#6: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:30 pm ---- then you have no choices.
plus you need to find a good mapper too.
#7: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:46 pm ---- What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp?
#8: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: HDI90, Location: sunny stokePosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:20 pm ----
Edward wrote:
What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp?
bmw 320d are about that ???
you will need vnt turbo ,fmic, upgraded fuel pump maybe from a 320d thats what a few people on tdocuk use, also stage 3 remap, decat, de-egr.
then other mods like bigger breaks free flowing exhaust
best part of 2k is it worth it?
#9: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:38 pm ---- A 20litre engine'd car should be more the 180bhp as standard
#10: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:22 pm ----
HDI90 wrote:
Edward wrote:
What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp?
bmw 320d are about that ???
you will need vnt turbo ,fmic, upgraded fuel pump maybe from a 320d thats what a few people on tdocuk use, also stage 3 remap, decat, de-egr.
then other mods like bigger breaks free flowing exhaust
best part of 2k is it worth it?
i will be interested to see how many people there have actually done all those.
in fact apart from the denmark guy i can't think of any; also see a few guys in frances have put a bigger turbo in but the rpm for the peak torque is just too high up.
fitting a VNT turbo on the pug will never be an easy job because most modern turbo run electronic control wastegate; unless you get one custom build
#11: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:59 pm ----
Edward wrote:
What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp?
520d run GT17 VNT give 150?
seat leon run 757042-5014S give 170
merc B200 run K03 VTG give 140.
but they are all DOHC 16v, unlike the stupid pug which is sohc 8v; i still think this would have at least 10-20% difference in power
#12: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:13 pm ---- 16V shouldn't be necessary on a diesel. 8 valves will flow more than enough at the low revs they run at.
The VW 1.9 engines managed 150bhp as standard.
#13: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:08 pm ---- Ive just bought a 120d BMW. 180 BHP standard, would push 230 remapped. For me diesels are mainly about torque and not top end, although mine does move quite quickly.
#14: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:17 pm ----
Steve206 wrote:
Ive just bought a 120d BMW. 180 BHP standard, would push 230 remapped. For me diesels are mainly about torque and not top end, although mine does move quite quickly.
turbo technology do advance quite a lot these day; you should have buy the twin turbo 120d
Edward wrote:
16V shouldn't be necessary on a diesel. 8 valves will flow more than enough at the low revs they run at.
The VW 1.9 engines managed 150bhp as standard.
could be right, but there is no harm to have more valves and cam
#15: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: kris_19, Location: mgarrPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:04 am ---- yes 10x to you all for your advice wil go to t3 then
#16: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:43 am ---- I have a t3/t4 unused you could buy
#17: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:50 am ---- matt have you got the parts number for that?
#18: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:52 am ----
Seabook wrote:
Edward wrote:
What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp?
520d run GT17 VNT give 150?
seat leon run 757042-5014S give 170
merc B200 run K03 VTG give 140.
but they are all DOHC 16v, unlike the stupid pug which is sohc 8v; i still think this would have at least 10-20% difference in power
520d deliver 184 BHP?
#19: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:53 am ----
Seabook wrote:
matt have you got the parts number for that?
Erm no idea, it was a hybrid made to suit t3/4 it only has the A:R numbers on it
#20: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:03 am ----
Ash wrote:
Seabook wrote:
Edward wrote:
What turbos are used on standad 2 litre diesels that make 180 bhp?
520d run GT17 VNT give 150?
seat leon run 757042-5014S give 170
merc B200 run K03 VTG give 140.
but they are all DOHC 16v, unlike the stupid pug which is sohc 8v; i still think this would have at least 10-20% difference in power
520d deliver 184 BHP?
Some are 150, some 184.
#21: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: kris_19, Location: mgarrPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:12 am ---- i am interested in that turbo Mattie-RS any pics...???and how mutch do you want for it
??
#22: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:19 am ---- I'll get some posted up later, Was looking for around £200, payed alot more than that brand new, and i never had the chance to use it! Its been sat in my room since lol
#23: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:05 pm ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
Seabook wrote:
matt have you got the parts number for that?
Erm no idea, it was a hybrid made to suit t3/4 it only has the A:R numbers on it
can't really cross referencing A/R ratio though.... so what is the A/R then? can you measure the inlet as well??
any useful numbers on the turbo itself?
where did you get the turbo btw?
#24: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:25 pm ---- I assume that turbo is from a diesel car???
#25: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:01 pm ----
Edward wrote:
I assume that turbo is from a diesel car???
why was that?
#26: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:17 am ----
#27: Re: bigger turbo on 20l hdi Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:59 pm ---- MATTIE F OFF THATS MINE
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