#1: What a day! Author: Davies, Location: ManchesterPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:25 pm ---- Hey Guys,
Not made many posts on here, but I hope you guys can give me some advise as I really need it. Has my 206 for 6 weeks now. Its a 1.1 2004 model, and is my pride and joy!
This morning on my way to work, I noticed the Engine Management light come on, and then the acceleration started to drop, I was on the motorway and doing about 75. I moved into the slow lane, and started to downshift, as to keep my speed up, as 5th gear just wouldnt hold any speed. I went onto downshift into 3rd and managed to maintain a speed. When I got off the motorway to the roundabout I noticed that in low revs the car was juddering and sounding really rough to run. It kept cutting on idle and just wouldnt accelerate as it should. I dropped it in at the garage at the top of the road from work, and they replaced the coil pack, as it was issuing a misfire error on the ECU. They did this and it did not change it, and the mechanic went on to say that it is more than likely an issue with one of the injectors. I called out the AA and they towed me to the garage that I bought the car from as its still under warranty. The AA Guy code read my car with his nifty onboard computer and that read that it was a circuit issue on Injector 3. We explained this to my garage. They have just called me to say that they have replaced that injector but it hasnt fixed the issue, and they are going to replace them all tomorrow and see where they get from here.
Anyone got any ideas if this will fix it? Or what else the issue could be?
Sorry for such a long explanation but I think being thorough should help!
Thanks guys!
#2: Re: What a day! Author: GLX_laney, Location: Plymouth, DevonPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:28 pm ---- Mate, mine is currently suffering from EXACTLY the same.
I've replaced the coil pack with a part from another 206, didn't work. My Garage said it could've been an injector, but their computer would've picked it up if it was!
Will be trying new spark plugs tomorrow. They did remove and check all of the current ones, however they did admit that one (or more) could be breaking down inside. I'll let you know how that goes.
Please keep in touch, sounds like we have the exact same problems!
#3: Re: What a day! Author: Davies, Location: ManchesterPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:34 pm ----
GLX_laney wrote:
Mate, mine is currently suffering from EXACTLY the same.
I've replaced the coil pack with a part from another 206, didn't work. My Garage said it could've been an injector, but their computer would've picked it up if it was!
Will be trying new spark plugs tomorrow. They did remove and check all of the current ones, however they did admit that one (or more) could be breaking down inside. I'll let you know how that goes.
Please keep in touch, sounds like we have the exact same problems!
I saw your thread but I thought I would do a separate incase something different was going on. My garage are going to call tomorrow and tell me how they go on. The car has just not long been serviced by them so they 'should' have changed the plugs, but weather they have or not is anyones guess!
#4: Re: What a day! Author: GLX_laney, Location: Plymouth, DevonPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:48 pm ---- It depends what category or type of service they did mate!
I've only had my car for a month or so. The guy i bought it off got it serviced 'on the sly' if you like... "a mate of mine without a book stamp"... job?
Anyway, i doubt the plugs in mine have been changed for a while, so that's what i'll do! They looked fine in the garage, but the mechanic said he can't be sure what they're like on the inside.
#5: Re: What a day! Author: Davies, Location: ManchesterPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:49 pm ----
GLX_laney wrote:
It depends what category or type of service they did mate!
I've only had my car for a month or so. The guy i bought it off got it serviced 'on the sly' if you like... "a mate of mine without a book stamp"... job?
Anyway, i doubt the plugs in mine have been changed for a while, so that's what i'll do! They looked fine in the garage, but the mechanic said he can't be sure what they're like on the inside.
Your right ill get them looked at!
Horrible not having the car
#6: Re: What a day! Author: GLX_laney, Location: Plymouth, DevonPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:55 pm ---- I forgot you said it cuts out! Mine isn't cutting out at the moment, just a horrible misfire! Dont think it'll be long before it gives in though...
Plus it's drinking petrol like a fish right now! A tenner got me about 62 miles!
#7: Re: What a day! Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:57 pm ---- Why don't you just test the injectors before replacing them?
#8: Re: What a day! Author: Davies, Location: ManchesterPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:58 pm ----
GLX_laney wrote:
I forgot you said it cuts out! Mine isn't cutting out at the moment, just a horrible misfire! Dont think it'll be long before it gives in though...
Plus it's drinking petrol like a fish right now! A tenner got me about 62 miles!
It doesnt cut all the time, just every now and again, really needs revving to move it off in 1st!!
And yeah its drinking!
#9: Re: What a day! Author: GLX_laney, Location: Plymouth, DevonPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:58 pm ---- Mine only cut once, when it was in the garage!
And Lee, how can we do this? Could/would the garage have done it for us?
#10: Re: What a day! Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:02 pm ---- Got a multimeter?
#11: Re: What a day! Author: Davies, Location: ManchesterPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:03 pm ---- Yeah!
#12: Re: What a day! Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:12 pm ---- coil pack = 0.5-.66ohms between pins 1 & 4, and pins 2&4
Injectors 13-16 ohms between pins 1 and 6
#13: Re: What a day! Author: Davies, Location: ManchesterPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:19 pm ----
Lee wrote:
coil pack = 0.5-.66ohms between pins 1 & 4, and pins 2&4
Injectors 13-16 ohms between pins 1 and 6
Thanks Lee,
If the garage come up blank tomorrow then ill start doing my own diags, think their messing me around to be totally honest!
#14: Re: What a day! Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:24 pm ---- I run diag if you ever need a hand.
#15: Re: What a day! Author: Davies, Location: ManchesterPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:25 pm ----
Lee wrote:
I run diag if you ever need a hand.
I'd struggle to get it to Sheffield mate!
#16: Re: What a day! Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:27 pm ---- I travel
60p a mile one way after 20 miles
#17: Re: What a day! Author: Davies, Location: ManchesterPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:33 pm ----
Lee wrote:
I travel
60p a mile one way after 20 miles
Ill let you know tomorrow mate!
#18: Re: What a day! Author: Davies, Location: ManchesterPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:08 am ---- Just got the car back and it was a fuel injector, cars running a lot smoother than ever and yeah! Check it out GLX.
#19: Re: What a day! Author: GLX_laney, Location: Plymouth, DevonPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:27 am ---- Thanks for that mate.
I tried new spark plugs today, fail.
Anyway, we presumed it had to be the fuel injector, so my uncle grabbed me some fuel injector cleaning fluid... (the type that goes in your petrol tank) ...hopefully that'll see a bit of improvement on the driveability side. If not, i'll get it into the garage again for a replacement fuel injector.
Thanks for keeping us updated!
#20: Re: What a day! Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:30 am ---- Don't use injector cleaner like redex, use premium fuel.
Redex does more harm than good in the long run.
#21: Re: What a day! Author: GLX_laney, Location: Plymouth, DevonPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:49 am ---- It's a bit late now, it's already in the tank! What harm will it do mate?
#22: Re: What a day! Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:53 am ---- Once you use it, you are supposed to keep using it. It's in the fine print for the product.
#23: Re: What a day! Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:53 am ---- No damage if you use it just once, I tried it and didn't make a difference
#24: Re: What a day! Author: GLX_laney, Location: Plymouth, DevonPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:58 am ---- What happens if you stop using it then?
Surely if whatever it is clogging/blocking the injector will have gone?
#25: Re: What a day! Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:01 pm ---- Does something to the lining on the injectors I think
#26: Re: What a day! Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:27 pm ---- Nothing will happen if you use it once and then stop, I did - 5000 miles later I'm fine
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