#1: Track car MOT? Author: seanbmx, Location: farlington, portsmouthPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:46 am ---- Morning all,
If been thinking for a while now of buying a younger no powerful 206 to use as a my daily and keep my old one to use as a track car.
My question is this, does a track car need an MOT?
I did a search on here but coldnt find an answer.
Thanks
#2: Re: Track car MOT? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:01 am ---- Depends if you are going to drive it on the road. If yes then Mot is needed. If you are going to transport it to track days then no. But I'm sure you have to declare it sorn or something like that.
#3: Re: Track car MOT? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:13 am ---- If your trailoring it then no, you dont need an mot, but you do need to ensure the car is safe or you wont be allowed on track. However check your licence allows you to tow enough weight to cover the tow car, trailor and trackcar, and also that the tow car has a high enough towing capacity. You will need to declare it sorn or you WILL be fined for not having insurance.
If your going to drive it there and back (as i do) then make sure you find a friendly mot'er.
#4: Re: Track car MOT? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:44 am ---- Have you ever been on a trackday?
Most trackdays want some kind of evidence that your car is safe, and a lot of them will insist that "track day" cars are MoT'd for this reason, unless you can provide an alternate reason eg the car has been scrutineered for a race event recently. Worth checking up with whoever does track days at your local circuit.
#5: Re: Track car MOT? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:48 am ---- not one of my trackdays have asked for a mot!
#6: Re: Track car MOT? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:35 am ----
paul_c wrote:
Have you ever been on a trackday?
Most trackdays want some kind of evidence that your car is safe, and a lot of them will insist that "track day" cars are MoT'd for this reason, unless you can provide an alternate reason eg the car has been scrutineered for a race event recently. Worth checking up with whoever does track days at your local circuit.
I used to attend track days at least twice a month and not once have I had to supply a mot. Granted I have not done so myself in a few years but I know people that still do and would say your above comment is bobbins.
#7: Re: Track car MOT? Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:35 am ---- We always have to produce an MOT cert for rallies even though we are on circuits or airfields and dont need tax... the scrutineer only has to do half a job then. Trackdays can be different and they only insist on seeing your license (both parts)
#8: Re: Track car MOT? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:07 am ---- I think my original post covered the MOT bit by saying it needs to be safe if it doesn't have an MOT. If you have ever been on a trackday you would realise alot of the cars wouldn't have a chance at passing an MOT as they are ex (or current) championship cars.
#9: Re: Track car MOT? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:15 am ---- if your car isnt safe and you manage to get on track the marshals will notice it unsafe and you'll be black flaggeed anyway
EDIT plus who drives a unsafe car?
#10: Re: Track car MOT? Author: seanbmx, Location: farlington, portsmouthPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:23 pm ----
paul_c wrote:
Have you ever been on a trackday?
Most trackdays want some kind of evidence that your car is safe, and a lot of them will insist that "track day" cars are MoT'd for this reason, unless you can provide an alternate reason eg the car has been scrutineered for a race event recently. Worth checking up with whoever does track days at your local circuit.
no iv never done a track day with my own car, iv always liked the idea of doing one. but i have done one of those track experience things you cant get as a gift but i suppose that isnt the same
i will defo check as and when i am able to get the car track ready
#11: Re: Track car MOT? Author: seanbmx, Location: farlington, portsmouthPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:29 pm ---- thanks guys for your quick responces , with mixed veiws im guessing ill just turn up and see whether they ask for it , wont be till the summer months at the earliest so gives me plenty of time to get everything sorted
#12: Re: Track car MOT? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:39 pm ---- javelin are very good track day organisers used them a few times.
only ever needed my license with them
#13: Re: Track car MOT? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:41 pm ----
Suicidalsoldi3r wrote:
paul_c wrote:
Have you ever been on a trackday?
Most trackdays want some kind of evidence that your car is safe, and a lot of them will insist that "track day" cars are MoT'd for this reason, unless you can provide an alternate reason eg the car has been scrutineered for a race event recently. Worth checking up with whoever does track days at your local circuit.
I used to attend track days at least twice a month and not once have I had to supply a mot. Granted I have not done so myself in a few years but I know people that still do and would say your above comment is bobbins.
I've never been asked to produce the certificate either, but its something they want, and is buried in the small print of the T&Cs you sign when you enter one.
#14: Re: Track car MOT? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:58 pm ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
javelin are very good track day organisers used them a few times.
only ever needed my license with them
Agreed, but the guy that looks like santa is a bit of a miserable git!
#15: Re: Track car MOT? Author: sillyhilly, Location: The Mean Streets of CoventryPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:28 pm ---- Paul_c, an MOT doesn't mean a car is safe / not safe.
IMO its a bloody nuisance and waste of time and money!
#16: Re: Track car MOT? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:18 pm ---- I think the MOT is a pain for a lot of people but for the likes of my missus its essential. She has no idea, if i dont drive the car every now and again it she would wreck it, its had flat tyres, failed wheel bearings and a snapped anti roll bar, she had no idea, just drove around the problem!
Slightly back on topic, I would hope anyone who is having a dedicated trackcar would keep it in good shape and check everything alot more often than on a road car!
#17: Re: Track car MOT? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:43 pm ----
D4NTP wrote:
Slightly back on topic, I would hope anyone who is having a dedicated trackcar would keep it in good shape and check everything alot more often than on a road car!
exactly!!!
yea that santa dude was abit miserable, luckily when i was there he released the cars onto the track all day, took ages to realise people tho!!
#18: Re: Track car MOT? Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:11 am ---- Most non competitive trackdays insist that your car is road legal, and they don't allow slicks etc. Therefore, your car must have an MOT.
#19: Re: Track car MOT? Author: HDI90, Location: sunny stokePosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:49 am ----
Ape wrote:
Most non competitive trackdays insist that your car is road legal, and they don't allow slicks etc. Therefore, your car must have an MOT.
But would the check up for mot?
#20: Re: Track car MOT? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:02 am ----
HDI90 wrote:
Ape wrote:
Most non competitive trackdays insist that your car is road legal, and they don't allow slicks etc. Therefore, your car must have an MOT.
But would the check up for mot?
Not on the day (not ask to see certificate), but they'd get you to sign a declaration and in the small print, might say needs MoT or something along those lines. If there was an on-track incident, for example you simply put a wheel off the track and went into a barrier, damaged it and caused monetary damage, they might want to make further checks here. So if you'd lied or deliberately misled, they might take further action. Worth the risk?
#21: Re: Track car MOT? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:45 am ---- This is getting f*****g irritating now. I have read both the Javelin and focused events paper I have and IT does NOT as for the car to be MOT'd it merely says it should be in a safe condition.
Paul, if you crash on a trackday it is tough s**t for all concerned, hence the disclaimer you sign. The trackday provider and track owner can't claim anything from you and vice versa.
YOU ARE ALLOWED ON TRACK AT THEIR DISCRETION AND YOUR OWN RISK.
#22: Re: Track car MOT? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:24 pm ---- You're right in this respect - I read the T&Cs too, they don't say MoT is required. HOWEVER these companies are merely a 'front end' firm who hire the tracks out as a block booking for a day or series of days. When you get to the track, you also sign the track's own disclaimer, which, if you read the small print, (and it varies from track to track) may well ask for cars on track days to be MoT'd or otherwise scrutineered safe.
#23: Re: Track car MOT? Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:28 pm ---- Of course you don't need an mot a lot of people use a trailer, including myself
And by the way an mot is in no way saying your car is safe and up to racing standards, just look after it and check before every track day and you will be fine
#24: Re: Track car MOT? Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:33 pm ---- I used to do loads of track days and took my car on a trailer - it had an MoT and was fully road legal. It just makes things easier having an estate car and a bunch of tools, etc available, and of course if the car breaks down its a relatively minor inconvenience, you can still get home, and it doesn't really spoil the day.
#25: Re: Track car MOT? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:41 pm ----
Harry wrote:
Of course you don't need an mot a lot of people use a trailer, including myself
And by the way an mot is in no way saying your car is safe and up to racing standards, just look after it and check before every track day and you will be fine
Harry has hit the nail on the head.
They state the vehicle has to be SAFE. Why would they ask for an MOT?
Having an MOT doesnt mean it is safe therefore they would leave themselves exposed if they asked for it as proof the vehicle was safe.
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, wont be till the summer months at the earliest so gives me plenty of time to get everything sorted 
