Obviously its 500hp but no by alot at all. 10/10 for observation though!!!
#4: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:05 pm ---- Sweet 206. Bet he was shocked you were not in the distance.
#5: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:18 pm ---- doubt the porker was givin it too much. If he had wanted to, he'd have been gone.
doubt the porker was givin it too much. If he had wanted to, he'd have been gone.
Seriously. Any sign of someone that has a fast 206 or anything that shouldn't be fast for that matter and it "Oh i'm sure the other car wasn't giving everything." How ridiculous. Why can't ppl just accept the vid for what it is. Oh and i know the guy and he was giving it everythin. Thanks for your comment though all be it negative!!!!!!
Sweet 206. Bet he was shocked you were not in the distance.
Thanks for your positive comment!
#8: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: jayz206gti, Location: TamworthPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:46 pm ---- LOL i bet he thought his car was broken!
#9: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:54 am ---- Looks like one of those street racing posts to me
I would have my money on the Porsche all day tbh.
Dont take your self so seriously mate, its only a car
Another thing is is that your on a 206 forum where the majority of people hate 206's, because thats how we roll.
#10: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:47 am ----
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
doubt the porker was givin it too much. If he had wanted to, he'd have been gone.
Seriously. Any sign of someone that has a fast 206 or anything that shouldn't be fast for that matter and it "Oh i'm sure the other car wasn't giving everything." How ridiculous. Why can't ppl just accept the vid for what it is. Oh and i know the guy and he was giving it everythin. Thanks for your comment though all be it negative!!!!!!
If he was "giving it everything" as you put it, then he would be concentrating on driving....... not on putting his hazards on to say nice try but F**K you!
At what point is a 280bhp 206 going to stay with a 500bhp 996 turbo?? They almost weigh the same at 1.3t for the porker and 1.1t for the 206 as standard. The porker is twin turbo the 206 is turbo???
NO WAY was he nailing it, just accept it.
#11: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: T18sty_206, Location: Luton, BedsPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:52 am ---- Why does everybody feel the need to critisize others? Rather than just appreciate what other people have done to their cars? Shouldn't have bothered putting it on here. Just thought it might be liked on here considering it's a 206 forum? I'm putting my hazards on to you mattievrs!!!!!
#12: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:57 am ----
T18sty_206 wrote:
Why does everybody feel the need to critisize others? Rather than just appreciate what other people have done to their cars? Shouldn't have bothered putting it on here. Just thought it might be liked on here considering it's a 206 forum? I'm putting my hazards on to you mattievrs!!!!!
Why are you claiming im criticising you? Im not, i appreciate the effort gone into the car and the work done. However, in the harsh reality of the video and plain "real life"....He was not giving it everything. Its clear and simple mate, just accept it and move on.
#13: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:01 am ---- Approx,
#14: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: T18sty_206, Location: Luton, BedsPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:05 am ----
mattievrs wrote:
T18sty_206 wrote:
Why does everybody feel the need to critisize others? Rather than just appreciate what other people have done to their cars? Shouldn't have bothered putting it on here. Just thought it might be liked on here considering it's a 206 forum? I'm putting my hazards on to you mattievrs!!!!!
Why are you claiming im criticising you? Im not, i appreciate the effort gone into the car and the work done. However, in the harsh reality of the video and plain "real life"....He was not giving it everything. Its clear and simple mate, just accept it and move on.
I didn't realise you knew the guy personally? When did he tell you that then?
This is the reality
My car was running Nitrous aswell as it being stripped out so its lighter that 1.1 tonne as you say?
Your entitled to your opinion but not to state facts that you clearly don't have evidence to clarify them.
Thanks for your feedback though.
#15: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:10 am ---- but youre running a 2.2 engine arent you? Which id imagine would weigh more than the orig engine thus making stripping it out pointless.
And my opinion is based on hard fact mate, i dont need to know the driver, i simply look at the video and base my opinion on what i see and what is real. Last edited by mattievrs on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:12 am; edited 1 time in total
#16: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:10 am ----
#17: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: T18sty_206, Location: Luton, BedsPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:20 am ----
mattievrs wrote:
but youre running a 2.2 engine arent you? Which id imagine would weigh more than the orig engine thus making stripping it out pointless.
And my opinion is based on hard fact mate, i dont need to know the driver, i simply look at the video and base my opinion on what i see and what is real.
Ok whatever mate. Clearly you know it all. Sorry i'm not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#18: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:21 am ----
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
but youre running a 2.2 engine arent you? Which id imagine would weigh more than the orig engine thus making stripping it out pointless.
And my opinion is based on hard fact mate, i dont need to know the driver, i simply look at the video and base my opinion on what i see and what is real.
Ok whatever mate. Clearly you know it all. Sorry i'm not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fight!
#19: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: T18sty_206, Location: Luton, BedsPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:25 am ----
My power to weight is slightly higher (only a tiny bit) because i was running gas and it's sripped out. But i'm not claiming to have beaten him. He just didn't beat me by a ridiculous amount.
#20: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:27 am ----
My power to weight is slightly higher (only a tiny bit) because i was running gas and it's sripped out. But i'm not claiming to have beaten him. He just didn't beat me by a ridiculous amount.
But i can keep up with Porsche's in my Lexus when they're not trying.
Either way mate, good for you.
#21: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:30 am ----
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
but youre running a 2.2 engine arent you? Which id imagine would weigh more than the orig engine thus making stripping it out pointless.
And my opinion is based on hard fact mate, i dont need to know the driver, i simply look at the video and base my opinion on what i see and what is real.
Ok whatever mate. Clearly you know it all. Sorry i'm not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grow up mate.
You post a video and people give opinions based on what they see and the reality of the situation. Then you dont like those opinions and cry like a little b***h. Its members like you who make this site look like a chav haven and bring it down for videoing racing.
If you dont like opinions based on reality and simple mechanics then dont post.
#22: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: T18sty_206, Location: Luton, BedsPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:44 am ----
mattievrs wrote:
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
but youre running a 2.2 engine arent you? Which id imagine would weigh more than the orig engine thus making stripping it out pointless.
And my opinion is based on hard fact mate, i dont need to know the driver, i simply look at the video and base my opinion on what i see and what is real.
Ok whatever mate. Clearly you know it all. Sorry i'm not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grow up mate.
You post a video and people give opinions based on what they see and the reality of the situation. Then you dont like those opinions and cry like a little b***h. Its members like you who make this site look like a chav haven and bring it down for videoing racing.
If you dont like opinions based on reality and simple mechanics then dont post.
Ok mate. Just to clarify then. On what basis have you made the assumption that he wasn't actualy giving it? Did your mum never teach you that if you don't have anything good to say then not to say it at all? Infact what is you're reasoning for even coming on here and saying all that? And i'm the one that needs to grow up? Sorry its come to a full on debate but i think it's all a bit unnecessary!!!
#23: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:48 am ----
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
but youre running a 2.2 engine arent you? Which id imagine would weigh more than the orig engine thus making stripping it out pointless.
And my opinion is based on hard fact mate, i dont need to know the driver, i simply look at the video and base my opinion on what i see and what is real.
Ok whatever mate. Clearly you know it all. Sorry i'm not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grow up mate.
You post a video and people give opinions based on what they see and the reality of the situation. Then you dont like those opinions and cry like a little b***h. Its members like you who make this site look like a chav haven and bring it down for videoing racing.
If you dont like opinions based on reality and simple mechanics then dont post.
Ok mate. Just to clarify then. On what basis have you made the assumption that he wasn't actualy giving it? Did your mum never teach you that if you don't have anything good to say then not to say it at all? Infact what is you're reasoning for even coming on here and saying all that? And i'm the one that needs to grow up? Sorry its come to a full on debate but i think it's all a bit unnecessary!!!
This is a public forum where anyone and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Did your mum never teach you not to race on the public roads?
#24: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:03 am ----
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
but youre running a 2.2 engine arent you? Which id imagine would weigh more than the orig engine thus making stripping it out pointless.
And my opinion is based on hard fact mate, i dont need to know the driver, i simply look at the video and base my opinion on what i see and what is real.
Ok whatever mate. Clearly you know it all. Sorry i'm not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grow up mate.
You post a video and people give opinions based on what they see and the reality of the situation. Then you dont like those opinions and cry like a little b***h. Its members like you who make this site look like a chav haven and bring it down for videoing racing.
If you dont like opinions based on reality and simple mechanics then dont post.
Ok mate. Just to clarify then. On what basis have you made the assumption that he wasn't actualy giving it? Did your mum never teach you that if you don't have anything good to say then not to say it at all? Infact what is you're reasoning for even coming on here and saying all that? And i'm the one that needs to grow up? Sorry its come to a full on debate but i think it's all a bit unnecessary!!!
Classic!! The assumption that he wasnt actually giving it the beans is based on the fact he wasnt giving it the beans! The porsche would have killed you if he was, and also, he had time to use his hazards which i dont see F1/touring car drivers doing....because they are fully committed. You chose to post a video of you racing on a public highway and the evidence is on that video to prove, although you kept with him, its because he wasnt giving it the beans fully. The evidence is there on the video to prove this.
Simple fact of the matter is you think your 206 is more than a match for a tuned porsche when it isnt if that porsche was driven flat out/properly.
Accept that FACT and go and race something else where you arent endangering people on the public highways. If you decide to continue then i hope you crash and die in a fireball as you deserve to for the blatant disregard for anyone else around.
#25: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:15 am ----
mattievrs wrote:
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
T18sty_206 wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
but youre running a 2.2 engine arent you? Which id imagine would weigh more than the orig engine thus making stripping it out pointless.
And my opinion is based on hard fact mate, i dont need to know the driver, i simply look at the video and base my opinion on what i see and what is real.
Ok whatever mate. Clearly you know it all. Sorry i'm not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grow up mate.
You post a video and people give opinions based on what they see and the reality of the situation. Then you dont like those opinions and cry like a little b***h. Its members like you who make this site look like a chav haven and bring it down for videoing racing.
If you dont like opinions based on reality and simple mechanics then dont post.
Ok mate. Just to clarify then. On what basis have you made the assumption that he wasn't actualy giving it? Did your mum never teach you that if you don't have anything good to say then not to say it at all? Infact what is you're reasoning for even coming on here and saying all that? And i'm the one that needs to grow up? Sorry its come to a full on debate but i think it's all a bit unnecessary!!!
Classic!! The assumption that he wasnt actually giving it the beans is based on the fact he wasnt giving it the beans! The porsche would have killed you if he was, and also, he had time to use his hazards which i dont see F1/touring car drivers doing....because they are fully committed. You chose to post a video of you racing on a public highway and the evidence is on that video to prove, although you kept with him, its because he wasnt giving it the beans fully. The evidence is there on the video to prove this.
Simple fact of the matter is you think your 206 is more than a match for a tuned porsche when it isnt if that porsche was driven flat out/properly.
Accept that FACT and go and race something else where you arent endangering people on the public highways. If you decide to continue then i hope you crash and die in a fireball as you deserve to for the blatant disregard for anyone else around.
Wow, even I thought that was a bit harsh
#26: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:24 am ----
mattievrs wrote:
i hope you crash and die in a fireball
Try and not post stuff like this when I'm in my lunch in a deadly quiet office. Half eaten sandwich = on monitor screen
#27: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: T18sty_206, Location: Luton, BedsPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:25 am ---- A Bit lol. Oh well. Can't believe its lead to this but never mind! Just thought it was something a lil different.
#28: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:26 am ----
G. wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
i hope you crash and die in a fireball
Try and not post stuff like this when I'm in my lunch in a deadly quiet office. Half eaten sandwich = on monitor screen
I hope your going to lick that sandwich off of the screen
#29: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:54 am ---- I overtook a Vauxhall Monaro on a 1 mile straight who do you think got to the end first
I think it would have been better for the OP if he posed pictures of of his engine bay after he ridiculously cleaned it Last edited by Rob2859 on Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:56 am; edited 1 time in total
#30: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:55 am ---- I overtook a lambo in a 30mph zone once
#31: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:00 am ----
Abzynthe wrote:
I overtook a lambo in a 30mph zone once
Was it a speed bump race? You reminded me of when someone in a Ferarri was revving it in a town centre at some lights and he stalled it when he set off. the whole square laughed at him
#32: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:01 am ----
Rob2859 wrote:
Abzynthe wrote:
I overtook a lambo in a 30mph zone once
Was it a speed bump race? You reminded me of when someone in a Ferarri was revving it in a town centre at some lights and he stalled it when he set off. the whole square laughed at him
Haha, no, traffic Jam
#33: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:32 am ----
Abzynthe wrote:
I overtook a lambo in a 30mph zone once
Talking of lambo's in the video Ape took, who was in front at the end?
#34: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: RedHDI, Location: Northern IrelandPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:34 am ---- Dads subaru beat a 911 4s so the porsche in this video was trying. Id have the 206 anyday because all that exotic crap is for people that dont know how to tune. Rather go watch a bunch of vts saxos and civics race rather than a bunch of suits and ties in there tacky italian cars
#35: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:30 pm ---- Just to suggest a little sanity...what numbers are you gettin at 0-60mph in your nitroused 206turbo???
im sure we can all have a rough idea what the porsche500 twin turbo will be gettin???
And keep it real...pointless otherwise Last edited by eddie206 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:15 am; edited 1 time in total
#36: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:57 am ---- Bump.....heres your chance dude...0-60s speak volumes?
#37: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Steve137, Location: BasingstokePosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:06 pm ---- Good effort mate
#38: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:21 am ---- BUMP MAN!!!!!!
Fight your corner man..comon t_18sty 206...
Heres your chance...you cant make these claims then fail to even put a time up...
This could be the start of somthing gettin everyone to post there times at 0-60 on a track is best and we can find the fastest 206 on the road???
I know its a title i would be interested in...
Unfortunately mines only the 138bhp so it will get wiped by the 180 boys but as for fastest 138 mine will do 0-60in 8.87secs(low miles.well looked after i guess)...Any challengers then...at least i can say im the 138champ for now....bring it on........and dont forget to do this its wise to do it on a track and keep safe.....ok.thanks..
#39: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:02 pm ---- lol the 138 king you make me laugh mate
8.9 seconds is crap in a GTI
Book time is 8.3 and some would arguably get marginally faster than that, standard
#40: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:24 pm ---- Good(well is not because it means my watch is knackered damn)...But i had to set things off and i see you havnt even posted a time???why not???if mines so crap whats yours doing?
Good(well is not because it means my watch is knackered damn)...But i had to set things off and i see you havnt even posted a time???why not???if mines so crap whats yours doing?
No offence but its not like it matters lol... Over 8 secs in a car thats meant to be a hot hatch is nothing to be proud of. As much as I love my car at the end of the day its still a 206
#42: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:59 pm ---- Its not like it matters....are u mental???
why do u think people spend days and days and hundreds and hundreds of pounds improving there cars in every way possible...simple..because it matters.it matters a lot..
You wouldnt leave your hiuse looking a mess and having old crappy furniture in it..and its the same with cars...appearance and speed is everything and if you cant see that your on the wrong site mate.
And as for 8secs being bad for a hot hatch its plenty fast enough when you can beat 80% of cars off the lights and regularly enjoy doing it...
You say...as much as i love my car at the end of the day its still a 206...i think you should have said..
as much as i love car its still a 206xsi which cant beat your time eddie so i will try and rubbish this rather than trying to be the fastest xsi as i cant beat your 138s time..
BELIEVE ME IT MATTERS..ITS ONLY HUMAN TO PUSH THE BOUNDARIES..
#43: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:54 am ---- Eddie you sound like a tool
You are right people pay hundreds of thousands modifying vehicles to break records - look at Simon Norris for example.
But mate, you're on a 206 forum. We're not exactly in Koenigsegg's, Zonda's and Ariel Atom's are we.
You seem like a petrol-head so the question is why are you in a 206.
The 206 is never going to break records and not many of us race people at lights only to get our licences taken off us.
If you want to be as competitive as you are, join the Santa Pod crew and get a faster car.
This forum, and people who own 206s aren't really the "racers" you are looking to compete with
#44: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:41 pm ---- I sound like a tool...maybe a hammer so i can smash your face in..haha...only jokin
But youve missed the whole point entirely...kononzeggs and zondas are all about money but the real fun for me at least,but probably most of us is in upgradeing a small cheaper car to get the best results possible without needing thousands to service the thing...
For me its about developing your own car and having fun doing it...im not competitive like u try and say...i just like nice cars and for me that can mean a nicely done 206 just as much as a £350.000koninzegg...
Dont get me wrong i would love to own the koninzegg but with my funds i can be just as happy in my 206,and a lot less likely to hurt someone...except you you knob...haha
#45: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:49 pm ---- Upgrading a small cheaper car to get the best results....
You'll never see a 0-60 of sub 6 seconds unless you spend at least £6,000 on the 206. All of a sudden it becomes... not so cheap.
Just pick up a 1995 model Subaru off auto trader for about 2k. 0-60 in about 5.5 seconds maybe less.
There you go, you have a fast car. Spend a grand or two with a few mods, you'll be laughing at the traffic lights.
And how can you say you're not competitive when you called yourself the 138 champ and practically begged people to post their 0-60s?
And if you find a Koenigsegg for 350,000 that hasn't got a failed head gasket or something let me know. Because they are twice as much as that!
#46: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: tomxsi, Location: CheltenhamPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:55 pm ---- lol first of all I only have an xsi because its my first car and the fastest car car I could insure, but make no mistakes as soon as I turn 19 in september Ill be upgrading to something else. But seeing as you want to compare, the gti 138 is hardly faster, not enough to boast about. You're claiming a 0-60 of 8.9 secs well the xsi does it in 9.2 and mines a 1.6 "mate".
there's no doubt that upgradings fun but I highly doubt you'd even remember you ever owned a 206 if you got into something like a 911, even a civic type r lol.
#47: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Dan-, Location: BiggleswadePosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:07 pm ---- It was pretty close, I have a In car recording and a phone as my dad recorded from the side, I'll upload it when I'm back from Spain, the part about a Scoob doing 0-60 in that time is easy, an impreza only running 300 hp prodrive claim 4.6 seconds, when I was running 375 with my twin plate exedy clutch doing a launch In that time is easy, I'm due another run soon this time I'm running more power with launch control and antilag so will be interested to see what it does!
#48: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:00 pm ---- You kids really need to read these entrys more closely...if u did u will see that i was trying to create some intetest in starting a fast car timeing league of sorts...so my title claiming and my begging was all words d to encourage people to post up there best times...as was my entry for my own time...just rated to encourage some interest and see what people are running at...
As for the koeninzegg why should i tell you?got £350.000 lyeing round???i doubt it...
At the end of the day im not arsed about petty arguments...im on here to talk 206's and have the odd chuckle because you just cant take life too seriously..which is why im a 206 driver i guess..
The little pug puts a smile on my face,its not too dear to run,it looks good,the interior is among the best(look at fords 1998-2006 or citroens 1996-2007 or saabs or renaults etc.etc.)thetes plenty of kit available,its fast enuf and handles pretty well,and most importantly i still look for reasons so i can drive her because i enjoy driving her unlike many cars ive driven in the past...ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY 206...
#49: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:38 am ---- Can I ask all members to refresh their memories and read our Guidelines here
Website Guidelines wrote:
206Info Guidelines
SPEEDING
The posting or boasting of speeds reached will not and cannot be tolerated. This includes anyone who owns a private road, test track or airfield. As with all post's that are deemed unacceptable they will be removed without warning.
Any further posts relating to excessive speeds may result in the thread being locked.
BUMP MAN!!!!!!
Fight your corner man..comon t_18sty 206...
Heres your chance...you cant make these claims then fail to even put a time up...
This could be the start of somthing gettin everyone to post there times at 0-60 on a track is best and we can find the fastest 206 on the road???
I know its a title i would be interested in...
Unfortunately mines only the 138bhp so it will get wiped by the 180 boys but as for fastest 138 mine will do 0-60in 8.87secs(low miles.well looked after i guess)...Any challengers then...at least i can say im the 138champ for now....bring it on........and dont forget to do this its wise to do it on a track and keep safe.....ok.thanks..
Not been on here for ages as I now try to stay away from forums because they're full of know it all's that always find something to criticize. Any way based on the following video that was run in road legal form (tyres etc) the 0-60 is approx 4.5 - 5 secs
#51: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:13 am ---- Well there it is...in black and white..
there's no way of knowing what the porsche driver was upto tho...he could have been hanging back to get you going and push you on..however..he could have been thrashing the puddings off his porsche with a boot er bonnet full of slabs and a dodgy turbo...however it could be legit and the porsches arent that special afterall..
One thing that is proven is that the video shows the truth..
Only if it can do 0-110 in 13 secs how does that translate into a 0-60 time??bearing in mind the first 0-60 will be slower than a second 0-60 or both expressed as 0-55mph to simplify things so its easily halved..so the first 0-55will be slower than the second 0-55because the first is from a standing start and the second is already at speed with the engine around full speed..
Now if someone is a REAL mathematician they may be able to prove me wrong but as far as i can see,with the time simplyfied to 0-55 from 0-60(which is as near as damn it)It seems to be sensible that if it does 0-110 in 13 secs it will do 0-55 in 6.5 secs BUT if it does the last 0-55 faster than the first 0-55 then tje time will be longer so if this is true it will take the car OVER 6.5secs to get to 0-55mph..
If anyone can translate these figures better than i have please do..but it seems right to me that the car is doing a 0-60 in approximately 7seconds???
And the last 60-110mph in approx. 6seconds???
But maybe the distance which is a quarter mile may need consideration when doung the maths.. but only a REAL mathematician can sort this one out??
#52: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:19 am ---- So by your theory this 290BHP turbo'd car does 0-55 slower than a GTi 180 can get to 60?
0-60 times mean jack s**t, the cars obviously going to be rapid regardless.
#53: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:24 am ---- The numbers are there to see..
But i agree it does seem wrong that this tuned motor should do a slow time like that??
And its certainly gonna be fast..and faster than a bog 180gti..and plenty fast to ensure some clenching i dare say.
As i said maybe a REAL mathematician can make sense of this because im retiring my abacus after this...ha!
#54: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:25 am ---- Well there it is...in black and white..
there's no way of knowing what the porsche driver was upto tho...he could have been hanging back to get you going and push you on..however..he could have been thrashing the puddings off his porsche with a boot er bonnet full of slabs and a dodgy turbo...however it could be legit and the porsches arent that special afterall..
One thing that is proven is that the video shows the truth..
Only if it can do 0-110 in 13 secs how does that translate into a 0-60 time??bearing in mind the first 0-60 will be slower than a second 0-60 or both expressed as 0-55mph to simplify things so its easily halved..so the first 0-55will be slower than the second 0-55because the first is from a standing start and the second is already at speed with the engine around full speed..
Now if someone is a REAL mathematician they may be able to prove me wrong but as far as i can see,with the time simplyfied to 0-55 from 0-60(which is as near as damn it)It seems to be sensible that if it does 0-110 in 13 secs it will do 0-55 in 6.5 secs BUT if it does the last 0-55 faster than the first 0-55 then tje time will be longer so if this is true it will take the car OVER 6.5secs to get to 0-55mph..
If anyone can translate these figures better than i have please do..but it seems right to me that the car is doing a 0-60 in approximately 7seconds???
#55: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:26 am ----
eddie206 wrote:
The numbers are there to see..
But i agree it does seem wrong that this tuned motor should do a slow time like that??
And its certainly gonna be fast..and faster than a bog 180gti..and plenty fast to ensure some clenching i dare say.
As i said maybe a REAL mathematician can make sense of this because im retiring my abacus after this...ha!
No you're dodgy maths is their to see
Its great that someone has actually created this car..there are so many people who come on here saying they will do it and never do so its good to see one.
Well there it is...in black and white..
there's no way of knowing what the porsche driver was upto tho...he could have been hanging back to get you going and push you on..however..he could have been thrashing the puddings off his porsche with a boot er bonnet full of slabs and a dodgy turbo...however it could be legit and the porsches arent that special afterall..
One thing that is proven is that the video shows the truth..
Only if it can do 0-110 in 13 secs how does that translate into a 0-60 time??bearing in mind the first 0-60 will be slower than a second 0-60 or both expressed as 0-55mph to simplify things so its easily halved..so the first 0-55will be slower than the second 0-55because the first is from a standing start and the second is already at speed with the engine around full speed..
Now if someone is a REAL mathematician they may be able to prove me wrong but as far as i can see,with the time simplyfied to 0-55 from 0-60(which is as near as damn it)It seems to be sensible that if it does 0-110 in 13 secs it will do 0-55 in 6.5 secs BUT if it does the last 0-55 faster than the first 0-55 then tje time will be longer so if this is true it will take the car OVER 6.5secs to get to 0-55mph..
If anyone can translate these figures better than i have please do..but it seems right to me that the car is doing a 0-60 in approximately 7seconds???
I'm confused with all the 0-55s.
Do you mean 0-55 and 55-110?
This is from Porsche for a 911 Carerra
Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h (0 - 62 mph) 4.8 secs
Acceleration from 0 - 160 km/h (0 - 99 mph) 10,4 secs
On their figures 62-99 takes 5.6 seconds which makes the second part of acceleration slower.
But as these figures are manufactured in controlled circumstances, they actually equate to jack when under normal conditions.
If you can find some data for the actual car, then you will be very close to getting the answer you so obviously desire.
#57: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:55 am ---- Im not even bothered mate...i just read the whole thread and at the start a lot of people were very bothered..maybe thats where youve missed the point to my choice to find a result here...
I can drop it and probly will but just before i do you are suggesting above that it takes the porsche 5.6seconds to accelerate 37mph between 62 to 99 mph...doesnt that seem slow considerin it only took 4.8seconds to go from 0-62 mph.......and the 206 went all the way to 110 mph....interesting but annoying so im signing off this thread until a REAL MATHEMATICIAN can work these figures iut properly..
#58: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:15 pm ---- Eddie you seem clueless
With the exception of a select few supercars, it is common knowledge that it takes longer to go from 60-100 than it does from 0-60, even when it's only an extra 40mph instead of the 60. This is because of the power the car has to develop to propel it through higher speeds. I'm sure you've witnessed it yourself that when you accelerate from 10 to 30 it is much quicker than accelerating from 60 to 80 despite both being 20mph increases. It's the same across wider scales. Intense power is needed to make a car accelerate rapidly through high speeds.
There is no mathematician required. Just that you need to understand cars do not accelerate at exactly the same rate during different speeds I.e they don't complete 50-70 the same as they would 10-30. This is the reason for gearing. Vehicles have different gear ratios in order to provide power at certain points where the car can accelerate faster. This is why, as you go up the gears, acceleration is slower.
Intense power is needed to make a car accelerate rapidly through high speeds.
That'll be down to the inverse square law.
Basically the faster a car goes the more friction builds up due to air residence, so the more power is needed to overcome it.
#60: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:43 pm ---- Sorry but at the example speeds you mention this is simply not true..try it for yourself..i know my car will go from 50-70 in almost no time at all and its because of the benefit of momentum and inertia that cars increase speeds at higher speeds a lot easier than at lower speeds when the full weight of the car is against itself low speed acceleration is much harder on the engine than acceleration at higher speeds needing much greater torque levels and to further prove my point just look at the fuel consumption levels between the low acceleration and the high speed acceleration..the low speed acceleration using far greater levels of fuel to perform the same 20mph increase as the higher speeds increase..fact.
You must see now mate how i am right and that you are the clueless one as you say..but i will not rub it in further but you must see the truth now...try it for yourself dude..its a fact.....
its because of the benefit of momentum and inertia that cars increase speeds at higher speeds a lot easier than at lower speeds when the full weight of the car is against itself low speed acceleration is much harder on the engine than acceleration at higher speeds needing much greater torque levels
You've got that totally bottom about face-
'When the car begins to accelerate, some new forces come into play. The rear wheels exert a force against the ground in a horizontal direction; this makes the car start to accelerate. When the car is moving slowly, almost all of the force goes into accelerating the car. The car resists this acceleration with a force that is equal to its mass multiplied by its acceleration. A car accelerates rapidly at first. As it starts to move, the air exerts a force against the car, which grows larger as the car gains speed. This aerodynamic drag force acts in the opposite direction of the force of the tires, which is propelling the car, so it subtracts from that force, leaving less force available for acceleration.
Eventually, the car will reach its top speed, the point at which it cannot accelerate any more. At this point, the driving force is equal to the aerodynamic drag, and no force is left over to accelerate the car'.
#62: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:04 am ---- I don't think Eddie actually owns (or has ever owned) a car, otherwise he'd know clearly how cars accelerate as has been explained
#63: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:35 am ---- This thread is hillariballs!!!
I actually cringe coming onto this forum these days.
#65: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:37 am ---- John, agreed! You know when your head goes into "psychology mode" just trying to figure out why someone is the way they are and why they say certain things, sorta thing? It's hard to explain, but the guy baffles me lol
Must do a lot of cringing then Graham
#66: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:18 am ---- Hey guys, I think some of you are breaking maths in here.
0-50 time does not equal 50-100 time....
#67: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Indigo_GTI, Location: AberdeenshirePosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:47 pm ---- I have a 206 gti with a turbo conversion. Is it as fast as a Turbo Porshe... most probably not. Would i swap it for a Porshe... no. To me its a pain in the ar*e but i still love it and would never sell it on. Its all about the hobby for me, lets be honest, what engine is likely to need a rebuild first? Get what you pay for at the end of the day, try to not take it too seriously
#68: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:31 am ---- NOTE ALL TIMES AND SPEEDS ARE IN KPH ON THIS POST AS ??MPH??WOULD BE TOO FAST FOR BRITISH ROADS..M<Look guys chill out right.....but sebs right the car will get from 50-100 sooner than from 0-50...now the weight of numbers seems to grow against my theory so jump in your cars and you will see that higher speed acceleration(the 50-100)happens sooner than the lower from stand still 0-50 Time....unfortunately mines off the road for a couple of weeks but i look forward to testing the theory as im sure its faster up top???
If im wrong i will hold my hands up and eat my hat but im sure in a car the same as mine..a 2002.138gti it eats up the 50-100 in a flash where it takes longer to do 0-50THATS 50!...
We can try to baffle each other with science but the best test is to drive it...dont forget tho..the different models will show different results...
#69: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:55 am ---- We don't need to drive it Eddie, we can just go off what data the manufacturers publish.
On your theory, it should take the same amount of time accelerating from 0-10mph as it does 60-70mph or even 30-40mph or is it quicker acceleration the faster you go?
#70: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:59 am ---- Well this says it takes thirteen and a half seconds to go from 60 to 100mph..
Thats 13.5secs from 60-100mph..
NO CHANCE.
#71: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:04 am ----
eddie206 wrote:
Well this says it takes thirteen and a half seconds to go from 60 to 100mph..
Thats 13.5secs from 60-100mph..
NO CHANCE.
It also says its a 1999 model and has 180BHP.
#72: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:25 am ---- Pagani Zonda Cinque 7.3L
0 to 60 mph (96.6 kph): 3.3 secs
0 to 100 mph (160.9 kph): 9.4 secs
Ariel Atom Mugen
0 to 60 mph (96.6 kph): 2.9 secs
0 to 100 mph (160.9 kph): 6.9 secs
Ford Fiesta 1.6 Zetec S
0 to 60 mph (96.6 kph): 9.6 secs
0 to 100 mph (160.9 kph): 26.0 secs
Can you see a pattern emerging Eddie
#73: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:53 am ---- WELL THEN.....
As much as it seems like madness and i hate to admit it it seems like the 60-100 times are as slow as you claim..
But i reserve final judgement until i can get mine moving and see for myself...i know im persistant..but you have to be these days...
It just seems like a lifetime to raise up that poxy 40mph..
13.5secs on the 206 180...of course all cars are different but it seems luke your argument stands...
now wheres that hat?¿????????????swinexdaxmxxxfuxktwxxxxcuxxx:)
#76: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: 206gt160, Location: BlackburnPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:50 pm ---- Just read this post and forget all the arguing this car he has, is an absolute gem and you can hold your head high. I'm on with my build now
#77: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: T18sty_206, Location: Luton, BedsPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:47 pm ---- Forums are jokes. 1st time I've ever witnessed someone admit that they're wrong though so fair play eddie206!!!!
Thanks for the positive comments (you know who you are)
#78: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:20 am ---- Im not one of these cranks that argues for the sake of it..it just seems so slow and its still bugging me a bit but the facts are all there on the car stats site..
Even a veyron does 0-60in 2.6 and 60-100 in2.9 closer figures but still beaten by the lower speeds..
Anyway im sure i saw clarkson on TG go mad for a merc that did the approx 60-100 in a mad fast time that may have been an exception to the rule..im thinkin it was a a very big engined cl500amg or sumthing like that...must have been a repeat from around 2008?..
#79: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: lee1985, Location: North WestPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:42 am ---- I said originally "with the exception of a very few supercars"
There are some supercars that complete the 60-100 faster. The Koenigsegg CCXR is one example.
There are others. But as a rule, 0-60 is always faster for the reasons already explained
#80: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: eddie206, Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:31 am ---- Yeah...ive got that now...ok?
Its funny that...how youve gone from"not knowing much" and "needing it explaining in dummy technology"
In just under a month youve gone from dummy not knowing much...to expert know it all..
It amazes me the rate some people learn things these days...
Thats from not understanding the basic susspension on a car to being a professor on the inner workings of momentum and the forces and friction of acceleration on a moving body.....Amazin..
#81: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: RichardEke, Location: DoncasterPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:55 pm ---- This has been a good, entertaining read
Very nice 206, can't imagine how much time and effort has been put into creating that.
1 thing i would say to eddie206, instead of thinking in terms of physics i'd just like to through my 2cents in there.
Going from 0-10mph on a pushbike will be quicker than 10-20mph cause its that much harder to do the 2nd acceleration. Exactly the same with cars.
E5GDM Is right with the physics though.
Just to explain about what Lee1985 said, the 60-100mph is only faster if the cars have a savage enough acceleration and the slingshot from the 1st 0-60mph helps to overcome drag, also depends where the engine is in its power/torque band.
Still a great read
Regards, Richard.
#82: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: wes180, Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:12 pm ---- just my 50p but if the 996 was proper nailing it wouldnt it be making alot more noise?
#83: Re: 206 turbo (280bhp) Vs Porshe 996 Turbo (500bhp) Author: LiamMiller, Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:28 am ---- LOL, as if I'm only just reading this thread now, bringing this back up (with knowledge on physics from uni, actually scrap that, basic physics from school!), the faster the car goes the more air resistance there is, 0-60 has barely any air resistance, but as said before, when the speed increases, the air resistance does too. So this the 206 GTi 180 takes what 7 seconds to get to 60, correct? then takes another 14 seconds to get to 100 (figures rounded up or down) it takes treble the time to do that extra 40 to get to 100 (7x3=21), same with the zonda (3 and a bit seconds to 60, 9 and a bit to 100). This isn't hard and eddies theory is no where near correct.
P.S Sorry for bringing this back up LOL
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