#1: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 in progress) pg.9 Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:49 am ---- There is quite some text, if you don't want to read it just scroll down
Okay so the story began about 4 years ago, on a Slovenian Peugeot fan forum. I was searching for some info about P307, that my sister was buying at the time (that's the blue one on the pics below). Being bored of going through all the problem pages I took a look into the "Members cars" part of the forum and made the fatal click that led me into the world of the peugeot 206 s16 obsession :ugeek:
Needless to say I stopped searching for info about the 307 and started searching for everything that I could find about 206GTi. I went through all YT movies, reviews, topics, presentations, anything that I could possibly find on the net.
Whilst searching I discovered 206online.com (rip) and 206info Anyway I started thinking just about how I want to buy this car and about a year and a half ago I finally did.
:hand: Before I continue I need to thank a friend (Legoless) who made quite a few miles to help me pick a good one (most s16/GTi's in Slovenia have been crashed, rolled etc) actually a few hundred miles to be exact.
So in the beginning of August 2008 we went to check out a white 206GTi at a local trader. We were skeptical from the get go as the car was imported from Italy (imports from It. are usually wrecks), the clutch bearing was worn, timing belt was giving out all sorts of sounds, and the gas pedal seemed to be way too short :think:
But then a ray of light We checked the whole car with a paint thickness meter and it was all in the factory parameters, we almost took apart the car and found no trace of any tampering on the bodywork. I have never seen a 206 GTI/180 that wouldn't at least have a bit of parking damage. So that was a big plus for this car
I really took my time thinking about should I buy it or not, went to check a few more S16's but one was worse then the other
In September 08' i finally took the plunge and bought the car of my dreams...
I still remember how thrilled I was when I first drove it out the car park. Timing belt and clutch bearing squealing, gas pedal way too short, driving on reserve gas but I didn't give a flying F. The first thing I did was take it to the gas station (filled it up and adjusted the throttle cable) then took it to a mechanic It was running like a dream after that apart from a few intermittent Peugeot electronic problems
A few info we all probably already know:
Model: 206 GTI/s16 2.0 16v
Power/Torque: 136hp/190Nm (It showed a bit more on the dyno but can't find the printout )
top speed: 210km/h
0-100km/h: 8.4s
Enough babbling, here are the photos:
I know the rim is scratched but that's the cost of buying an Italian import
Nicely cleaned engine bay (a bit of a fetish )
This are the photos of the car when it was still stock. More to come later... Last edited by =ZiAn= on Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:39 am; edited 6 times in total
#2: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Guyrichie, Location: Workington, CumbriaPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:50 am ---- car looks great mate
i love white 206's
#3: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Mrs_Howey, Location: WorthingPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:53 am ---- A very nice looking 206, white 206's are extermly nice
#4: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:05 am ---- Thanks for the comments
Well lets continue...The first thing I changed on the car was the audio system as the original is well... eeeerm too quiet
So here it goes:
Blaupunkt Memphis MP66 and Dragster DSK 672.1 front system.
Supplying power for the front system Ground Zero GZTA 2.250 MK2
Installing:
A friend hard at work
Then I ran out of space om my picture phone
Anyway I thought I'd last longer with out a woofer but I didn't. So a month later something else was added:
woofer Alpine 1243D
Powered by Stealth AMP 1.8
Having the cables all over the boot wasn't looking too good so when I had some free time I made a false floor:
Disaster:
False floor set up just to see if everything fits:
Say hello to my cat, who really wanted to "assist" me:
Everything already in the car with an improvised top plate so things don't fall onto the amps:
After a while I finished the top plate and it was all ready for atest assembly:
Then everything went out:
Parts waiting to be dressed in black:
Partially done:
Finished and prepared for final installation:
showoff:
The end of audio part of the project:
The plexiglass is completely transparent, it just had the protection layer still on it as I didn't want to scratch it
#5: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Matt, Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:10 pm ---- what a beauty
#6: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: matty206, Location: Santa PodPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:15 pm ---- like it mate you wait till craigyJ sees this ! lol
#7: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:13 pm ---- Thanks guys =) I'll make another update tomorrow so stay tuned
#8: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:49 pm ---- okay lets make another update this time performance orientated:
I got a call that a package from UK was waiting for me...
hmm let's take a look inside...
And after 2 months of waiting:
I think you all know what these are (Bilstein B8 + Eibach sportline)
And one more non performance part
Almost forgot about the Griffiths Quickshift that arrived that week
It was a pain in the ass to install before we figured out we could just take out the battery
At first we had some problems with the torsion bars at the back plus it was too high and it had to be redone the next day as the car started going sideways in sharp turns which was to say the least unpleasant. :shifty:
The last photoshoot before the drop:
after installation of the new suspension:
More to come, stay tuned
#9: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:51 pm ---- Absolutely love this car It's crying out for a rear spoiler though mate!
#10: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Dillon, Location: KentPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:00 pm ---- This is absolutely fabulous a 206 in white can not beat it !! white cars are ace even if I am biased a lot
Like b said a spoiler would finish it maybe some vortex's but they have been done to death still very nice car !! Do you have musch trouble keeping it clean? mine is a real pain
#11: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Ruffy_206, Location: BristolPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:00 pm ---- car looks good. perfect drop on it. also i am planning a simalar install in the boot if i get it as good as yours ill be happy one thing i will say is how much gap you got from the sub to the top bit of wood seems close just dont want the sub hitting it really.
#12: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:20 pm ---- @Brian, hehe it's already been taken care of, I just haven't had the time to make an update on the exterior yet. I'll write it up tomorrow
@Dillon, yup keeping it clean is a bi*ch, especially during winter. But I just love white cars, so I can live with it. As for the wheels, I'll probably stick to original ones and refurbish them to anthracite + 17" only reduce performance + tires cost more
@Ruffy, its just about flat (i.e. no gap when the boot is closed), but I've measured everything before constructing it, so it doesn't hit anything
#13: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:06 am ---- Stunning car mate, i'm thinking of a simular suspension set-up, what is the ride comfort like? is it bumpy and stiff? I had spax set-up on my old 206 and it was really stiff and could feel every bump in the road.
#14: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:01 am ---- It's pretty stiff but I think a lot of that has to do with me having a f'ed up rear axle. Still it's not a very comfortable ride (though I love it through the corners)
#15: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Alan_206HDi, Location: Hatfield Heath, HertsPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:06 am ---- Lovin' this! Come to FCS!!
#16: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:09 am ---- ah right ok, eibach sportline are 50mm aren't they?
#17: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: MkERsLLuPo, Location: BerkshirePosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:10 am ---- Stunning white 206 mate keep it up looking great
#18: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:16 am ----
Alan_206HDi wrote:
Lovin' this! Come to FCS!!
It's a bit far isn't it, though I'd love to got
@Austin, yup Eibach Sportline are 45-50mm but I think they dropped it about 50-55mm
#19: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:17 am ---- oh right, i think i might go for the pro-line, there 35mm drop so might not loose too much ride comfort then.
#20: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:46 am ---- @Austin, ProKit will preserve most of the comfort but Sportline look better. So if you only care about performance and ride comfort not looks, I'd go for ProKit as you said before If I had to make a choice now I would probably choose ProKit as well (or KW2 )
Exterior update =)
Because of people who are unable to park without scratching the car next to it I had to have the car repainted (not entirely but about half of it) Thankfully the insurance company paid for it + only the paint was damaged
Parts getting prep'd for spraying (weight reduction)
During the repairs we also managed to sneak in some other parts for spraying and now all in all the car looks like this (including the spoiler for Brian ):
The hood was welded and the middle weld was made so that it continues just like the original. I bought that debadged grill but it was rubbish so we made one ourself from original ABS plastic so there is no chance of ti breaking or cracking.
Now the car is almost finished on the outside, just 2 more things I need to purchase.
#21: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:25 am ----
=ZiAn= wrote:
@Austin, ProKit will preserve most of the comfort but Sportline look better. So if you only care about performance and ride comfort not looks, I'd go for ProKit as you said before If I had to make a choice now I would probably choose ProKit as well (or KW2 )
Cheers
Liking the update, looks loads better with the rear spoiler, easily one of the best GTi's on the forum.
#22: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:54 am ---- Now let's start with some performance updates =)
First I received something from Antix
Gear rods for group N (actually found out later they are meant for A group)
And about a week or two later a guy from GLS knocked on my doors
Hmmm something from OMP, Goodridge and another Haynes manual for the collection:
Things were finally starting go move forward, which was really necessary as my old brakes were worn pretty good
I'm a sucker for shiny things but they cost the same as normal ones so why not:
OMP
Hard one aye?
Yup another 206 guy with a strut bar. I know it doesn't do much on a 206 but I just love the look of it when I open the bonnet
We quickly installed the strut bar (not without difficulty-stupidity at its finest)
And as usual I need to add some photos:
That's it for now, the brake update coming up soon
#23: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Ruffy_206, Location: BristolPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:36 am ---- aahh perfect then. come over and make my boot build.
also how did you get your gear knob that shiney metel polish?
#24: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:49 pm ---- I didn't do anything to the gear knob, it was like that when I bought it
#25: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, SussexPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:56 pm ---- Cool car dude.
#26: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: saiefovech, Location: TuNisIePosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:21 am ---- beautiful car bro
#27: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: apjs87, Location: PlymouthPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:57 am ---- loving this. how easy were the linkages to access with the battery out??? i need to re grease mine? cheers
#28: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: vanman_foci, Location: Barry, South WalesPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:45 am ---- that looks so nice.
whats the future plans?
#29: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:50 am ---- Strut brace looks like its meant to be there, may sound like a stupid question but how did you cut out that perfect hole?
#30: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Cr4zYb0y, Location: SalisburyPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:55 am ---- Gorgeous Car..!
#31: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: coops180, Location: leicesterPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:06 pm ---- white looks awsome wish they made the 180 in white
#32: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:39 pm ----
apjs87 wrote:
loving this. how easy were the linkages to access with the battery out??? i need to re grease mine? cheers
Quite easy but you'll be swearing pretty bad when you'll try to reach the end of the longest linkage (at least we did)
#33: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:45 pm ---- @vanman_sw, I'll probably be going down the same road as Edward and Jamie
@Austin, I F'ed it up a bit and then had to grind it down by hand because we forgot we have the right drills in the garage. So instead of a 5 minute job it took half an hour.
I recommend you use this type of drills:
@coops180, I don't know about 180s, but RC was definitely available in white
#34: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:50 pm ---- Lol ah yeah good idea, forgot about a step drill, i'll do it that way when i get one.
#35: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:10 am ---- Brake Update:
Due to my brakes being a disaster, I was squealing down the road like a steam train while trying to stop I knew something had to be done. So in the summer of 2009 I opted for:
- P307 2.0HDi calipers (same as gti180)
- Roesch 283mm VR-2 discs
- Roesch XC-4 Kevlar carbonceramic pads
- Goodridge braided hoses
- ATE Super blue racing brake fluid
When I bought the calipers they were a bit rusty and really dirty. So I needed to clean them up and while I was at it I thought it would be good to give them a new coat of paint. After cleaning (wire brush and a dremel) I tried to pick a color that wouldn't stand out yet it didn't want the standard silver. Weeeell that didn't turn out like I thought it would, as I think they stand out quite a bit now. I know most of you won't understand the joke so I'll write a short explanation later on...
This is what they looked like:
A bit of grinding and swearing later...:
So I picked a color (not what I first had in mind but okay):
And then the caliper mod had to wait a while until I recived a few stickers:
Let me now explain what this is all about:
[Warning humor lost in translation]
As you know a lot of "chav drivers paint all sorts of Brembo, AP racing, Rotora etc. decals onto their calipers. Because of that a joke started going around a few of my friends that somebody should write "Bremze" onto their calipers (its a slang word for brakes, some of the guys from ex-Yu will understand it), as we mostly have modified brake parts instead of standard stuff. Seeing nobody wanted to do it I took the plunge and went ahead with it...told you its not going to be funny
Then the installation:
New discs:
Calipers:
Braided hoses:
OEM hoses:
As I've had them for quite some time, I need to say, the brakes feel really good only when its extremely cold you need to press the brakes a bit at first so that they heat up a bit. Nothing drastic though. But when they get to their operational temperature...that's when the fun begins. I thought I was going to break the steering wheel I just need to replace the tires as they can't grip as much as they would need to with the new setup
Oh and just so I don't forget,we also replaced the heater matrix as the old one as leaking:
Mission impossible anyone?...(Q:"how do you replace the heater matrix?"..A:"with great difficulty")...But as we later figured out you can replace it without taking out the whole dashboard. Wooohooo
#36: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:11 am ---- Well seeing I've got a few winter style pics on my comp, why not stick 'em up here
You can see the new member of the family on the right. Its a (standard height) C4 coupe, Loeb edition with a 2.0HDi 136. I could call it my winterwagon as you can see my car is going nowhere fast in this snow
Oh and this Monday I've also tracked down the 206RC speedo, for a very nice price so I went to Zagreb for it ( about a 100 miles each direction). Diesel rox when it comes to fuel consumption
So here they are after almost a year of searching:
Even the cat wants to have a go at them
In all their glory :
Last photo of the old dials
Disassembly:
Final result:
I was so happy to have them, that just couldn't wait until evening to go to the garage and changed them in the middle of a parking lot. The looks I got from some of the neighbors were priceless
p.s. This was the last update from the past, now we're back to present time so no more quick updates Well actually the next part is supposed to arrive next week. And I'm finally moving to the engine now
#37: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Chi, Location: North LondonPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:26 am ---- Car is looking good!!! Can't believe I've missed this thread!
Reminds me that I need to fit some braided hoses and the gear linkages this summer!
#38: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: Ams1592, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:25 am ---- You cars amazing! Love white 206's
Keep the good work up!
#39: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: _Jay_, Location: LutonPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:26 am ---- Mate loving the car, looks mint! You have given me the urge to spray my 180 white now as well lol.
#40: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:48 pm ---- Totally missed that anybody even commented I guess 206info just gets too many updates in the Project section
@Chi, I recommend it I've noticed quite a difference after fitting those linkages. Not sure about the hoses yet as I haven't had time to test them properly yet (started getting cold too quickly).
@Jay, thanks I'd love to see a white 180
#41: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:41 pm ---- Damn this page is getting stretched out having 3 updates on one page
Well no matter because something new arrived. Again. I'm worse than ladies in a shoe store, just can't stop buying things
Anyway here it is. This time the package arrived from the Fatherland, jahwol, Deutchland
Quick peek into the box reveals a Raceland 4-1 exhaust manifold:
Still in bubble wrap. I love to pop this suff
In all its beauty
So this stainless steel 4-1 manifold is going to replace the original 10kg of scrap metal. I'm not saying this one is perfect, far from it, but a lot better the the OEM one. At first I was looking for a 4-2-1 but the only one I found was the one Edward has and that one was a bit too expensive for my taste. So this is it (all 4,4kg of inox) with my budget. We'll try to get it installed ASAP but that usually means it might take a while
Comments are welcome
#42: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:47 pm ---- I'm going to make another update, just trying to get to page 4 as this one is getting stretched out quite a bit now
#43: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:48 pm ---- Lets see how many more till the next page
#44: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 3=extremly pic heavy) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:51 pm ---- If I counted it correctly three more posts to go
#45: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 3=extremly pic heavy) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:52 pm ---- 2....
#46: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 3=extremly pic heavy) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:52 pm ---- So over the weekend we've installed the new manifold. Had quite a bit of trouble fitting the new one in but in the end everything worked out well...
As for the gaisn, it might just be a placebo effect but I think the car accelerates a lot easier. It got a bit louder but has a nice sound. Especially when you let go of the throttle If anybody is interested in the measurements, it's 61mmthick and the hole is 57mm wide (2mm walls) the outer part of entrance to the cat is 52mm wide, so a bit of welding and adjusting was necessary but it's a good foundation for future upgrades regarding the exhaust system.
The original manifold a.k.a. the pretzel
Old vs. new:
Push it in, push it in
Jeaka doing his thing..
another angle:
Well this is it for now, more updates coming up in the next few months
#47: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:28 am ---- New tires are home In the end I've opted for the Bridgestone Potenza Re050A, I don't think I'll regret it.
I just need to get the wheels back from the powdercoating and let the summer tire season begin.
#48: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 am ---- And the wheels are back I just need to get the center caps colored as they're plastic and couldn't be powder coated. I'm also getting some spacers for the back wheels so that they will be spot on with the arches
So this is how they look now (they look a bit bright because of the flash, photo nr.3 shows the most realistic color):
I think they'll look nice Any comments?
#49: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: anthony_839, Location: romfordPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:47 am ---- very nice you will be annoed when u get the first scratch on them lol
#50: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:56 am ---- Haha I know but I hope that won't happen for quite some time
#51: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: bertt, Location: chesterPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:11 am ---- such a nice car mate im extremely jelous!
#52: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: plan_D, Location: Alderley Edge, CheshirePosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:52 pm ---- That's a very nice car. Wheels look gorgeous.
Those manifolds are a ball ache aren't they? I had life a bit easier because the entire system was changed at once, manifold, cat and cat-back.
#53: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:52 pm ---- Thanks, yes that manifold did make my mechanics swear quite hard But when finished its so much more pleasing than it would have been if it was easy to fit I'm going for a catback this month, I'll probably take the Janspeed GTi180 one so I know we'll have a lot of fun modifying everything so that it fits (again)
#54: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: JordGJ, Location: Leeds / West MidlandsPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:18 pm ---- Love this car, especially the colour
#55: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: amy-v17, Location: Bury St Edmunds/Luton/BournemouthPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:03 pm ---- Lovely car, alloys are looking good too
#56: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:49 am ---- @snow_n_low, thanks this colour does suit the 206 doesn't it
@amy, thaks and I've finally got them on the car... I like =)
#57: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: freestylejamie, Location: East LondonPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:52 am ---- i think u should have the bump strips in gloss black like the mirrors, would look amazing
#58: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: Iain, Location: Aberdeen, ScotlandPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:11 am ---- Lookin good
Maybe black valeo's (if you can) and black fogs?
#59: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: freestylejamie, Location: East LondonPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:24 am ----
Iain wrote:
Lookin good
Maybe black valeo's (if you can) and black fogs?
can anyone else find black fogs?? ive had an argument with d only guy on ebay sellin em
#60: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: amy-v17, Location: Bury St Edmunds/Luton/BournemouthPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:33 am ---- They look even better now they're on the car, I love white 206s.
Freestylejamie, just paint your own ones
#61: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: freestylejamie, Location: East LondonPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:40 am ----
amy-v17 wrote:
They look even better now they're on the car, I love white 206s.
Freestylejamie, just paint your own ones
paint them with what? tinting spray because dont think it comes out as good
#62: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: amy-v17, Location: Bury St Edmunds/Luton/BournemouthPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:42 am ---- Start a thread asking who has painted their fogs they will tell you how to do it but they havent just tint sprayed over them, they paint the inside.
#63: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: freestylejamie, Location: East LondonPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:45 am ---- yh but not many people seem 2 have done it though ?? n taking it apart would involve me knowin what im doin lol
#64: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: anthony_839, Location: romfordPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:47 am ----
freestylejamie wrote:
yh but not many people seem 2 have done it though ?? n taking it apart would involve me knowin what im doin lol
ive done it and you need to take the fog light apart to be able to do it.
#65: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: freestylejamie, Location: East LondonPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:48 am ----
anthony_839 wrote:
freestylejamie wrote:
yh but not many people seem 2 have done it though ?? n taking it apart would involve me knowin what im doin lol
ive done it and you need to take the fog light apart to be able to do it.
is that hard 2 do though? if u live in romford u could always do it 4 me
#66: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:40 am ---- really like the colour of the wheels, nice job
#67: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: Dillon, Location: KentPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:51 am ---- Looking very good I like the colour of the wheels a lot, how about some other parts the same colour to match them?
#68: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:09 am ---- Thanks guys and Amy
Nah I was thinking of doing the roof black but that would probably be a bit OTT. I'll try to keep the body parts white but I am looking into some darker headlights. @Iain I would buy those already but they would shine into the wrong direction on the road (continental Europe) As for the rear lights I know exactly what I want but I'm spending all my money on performance upgrades ATM so they'll have to wait
@freestylejamie, could you paste a link to those fog lights on ebay, I can't seem to find them
#69: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: freestylejamie, Location: East LondonPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:58 am ---- ah i cant seem 2 find em either, maybe he stopped selling em, if i find em again ill post the link up
#70: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: freestylejamie, Location: East LondonPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:07 pm ---- just found the smoked fogs up 4 sale again. heres the link, but there a 5a more expensive now
#71: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:24 am ---- So I haven't written here in a while...well the exhaust is on, Janspeed's GTi180 that is And that thing sure does make a ROOOAR. Sometimes even a bit too much. Don't really have any good photos yet as I need to get my rear bumper repainted so we can blend the exhaust cutout in.
Anyway I've taken it to the racetrack on Friday and the little pug can move but it was raining so the times weren't very good, I hope we'll have better luck this Friday.
Some pics of the event:
Good company:
and my favorite one for all BMW drivers
I also have an in-car video, will post it up as soon as I upload it
#72: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:24 pm ---- Here's the in-car video, a bit shaky but still okay:
and yes it's a short & very closed course but its close to home, cheap and you don't need a service after a day of driving on it. Other real circuits are a lot further down the road and a day at the track costs a lot more (so its more of a once every few months trip).
any comments?
#73: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:35 pm ---- I appreciate youre in slovenia so a search on slovenian ebay would be in order but i think covering the roof with di-noc carbon film would look awesome.Its good quality stuff and wears hard too. Love the car by the way! cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHEAP-3...4aa163b16e
#74: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:26 am ---- Thanks mattie but I'm going to keep it as OEM as possible on the outside (with a few personal touches).
#75: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:01 pm ---- Just came home from another track day, great day until I broke the top engine mount...Let's just say it was an interesting drive (100+ km) home...No matter we'll fix it + I'll order a few other goodies alongside with uprated engine mounts
#76: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: jase123, Location: yorkshirePosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:35 am ---- 1 word springs to mind when i see yor car niccccccccccccce
#77: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:41 pm ---- Thanks Jase
now to the more pressing matter, as said before I'll be buying some uprated mounts. I've found the Vibra Tecnics/spoox mounts but are quite expensive but on the other hand, I found Jamie's suggestion of Baker mounts on the forum. But those are supposed to be for 205/309 so Can anybody tell me exactly what mounts do I need if I want to buy them from Baker? (and yes I know I'll need to buy the gearbox mount from Spoox.)
Also if I'll be buying stuff from Spoox, I was thinking of ordering an additional rear anti roll bar for a bit of added stiffness. I was looking at these two (the only two I can find):
Is the extra heavy duty acceptable for a daily driver or will it me too much (both of them are adjustable)?
#78: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:19 am ---- Nobody knows anything?
#79: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 4 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:56 am ---- A few more pics for this thread First of all a package of Motul motor oil from Germany. Including postage it was less then half the price I'd pay here
Tin can
Also received a gift
As said before I managed to break the top engine mount (we later found out that the lower one was torn as well) That lead to another upgrade so I bought the top and lower Baker engine mount and the vibra technics for the gearbox mount (hasn't arrived yet).
We also added an extra aluminum pad to strengthen the top mount as they are prone to breaking.
welds:)
Installed:
the new mounts:
Old top mount:
It all went according to plan until we figured out the lower mount was too narrow....5 milimeters to be exact So for anybody else that was going to buy Baker lower engine mount be aware IT DOESN'T FIT WITHOUT MODIFICATION!!!!!... But we aded another steel bush to the mount and fixed the problem...So I can almost say it's half solid
Old mount:
New one:
O bloody hell
This has really lowered the response time, it accelerates instantly and overall feels a lot more solid. You can fell quite a bit of vibration when starting cold but it settles down after a couple of seconds.
Also regarding my previous posts we've changed the ARB for the GTi180 ARB. 1mm difference but it feels like a light year.
Now I only need to fix the right suspension arm and it'll be as good as new (okay better)
#80: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:22 pm ---- looking good! i'm thinking of gettin baker top mounts, where did you get them from? can't seem to find them on there website.
Also what oes the gti 180 ARB look like? is it just like a torsion bar?
#81: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:43 am ---- I bought the 205 Baker engine mounts because they're the same (top mounts that is). They don't have anything listed specifically for a 206
The ARB looks just like torsion bars, you just replace the old one with the new and that's it I can take a photo of it if you want? But there is a noticeable difference in the behavior of the car, it's much more planted now. BTW I think Edward wrote a How-to for the ARB if you'll change it as well
#82: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: benbmx08, Location: newquayPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:49 pm ---- im not going to lie, i am slightly jealous of this
#83: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:06 am ---- Heh thanks =) I saw you have the same colored wheels as me =)
#84: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:34 am ----
=ZiAn= wrote:
I bought the 205 Baker engine mounts because they're the same (top mounts that is). They don't have anything listed specifically for a 206
The ARB looks just like torsion bars, you just replace the old one with the new and that's it I can take a photo of it if you want? But there is a noticeable difference in the behavior of the car, it's much more planted now. BTW I think Edward wrote a How-to for the ARB if you'll change it as well
Yeah just seen his how-to, looks an easy job tbf, now i need to get myself a 180 ARB and torsion bars hehe
#85: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:41 am ---- Things are finally starting to move along now
We had a road trip today, picking up a new engine so it can be modded slowly and still keep the car running everyday.
I got it at a very competitive price of 300€, it has done 200kkm (but that really isn't a problem as it's going to be rebuilt) and has spent the most of its life time in a Peugeot 607
So we checked the engine then loaded it into the car and went back home...Quite a pleasant 300km I must say
But there has been a bit of a change if anybody notices...
Almost back at the garage
Did you figure it out yet?
If you haven't here's a clue
Stay tuned
#86: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: rttam, Location: devonPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:34 pm ---- is that the 160 bhp one out of the bigger peugeots??
#87: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: Antix, Location: WorcesterPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:47 pm ---- Ew12 = 2.2-litre isn't it?
EDIT: The EW12 was introduced to replace the low-pressure turbo variant of the XU10. It has a bore of 86 mm and stroke of 96 mm, for a displacement of 2231 cc. Citroën only uses it on the C8 MPV, while Peugeot, which has more a sporty image, uses it in the 406 SRi, 407, the 607 executive model and 807 MPV.
Model Output Notes
EW12 J4 - 158-163 PS (156-161 hp/116-120 kW) 16-valve catalyst Last edited by Antix on Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:49 pm; edited 1 time in total
#88: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:49 pm ---- Its the EW12 2.2
#89: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: Antix, Location: WorcesterPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:49 pm ----
G. wrote:
Its the EW12 2.2
found it
#90: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:28 am ---- Heh yup its the bigger brother of the GTi engine...quite similar to the EW10J4 (only a bit taller), with a couple of J4S characteristics. It's going to be a nice winter project getting it up to the specs I have planned for it. And all progress will be photographed
#91: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / TurkeyPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:18 am ---- What is your plan. Thats my dream.
Ported Polished 180 head
180 intake manifold with butterfly (or ITB)
180 or aftermarket exhaust manifold
Catcams
Forged Hi-Comp Pistons
Forged Conrods
etc.etc.etc.
Good luck
#92: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:32 pm ---- Thanks Schumi
We're going to port and polish the head, it will also be flow benched to get the maximum efficiency, ITB's (that's the reason this project even started), some "mild" spec (not race but still quite nippy) cams, so we keep the middle rev range useful (I don't want a dyno queen), a custom plenum and a DTA ECU to run the show. It already has a 4-1 SS manifold, Janspeed catback, and a modified cat. I'll keep the forged conrods and hi compression pistons out of the equation for now, but who knows
#93: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: T_bandery, Location: East londonPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:39 pm ---- Thats sweet man, I got a quote for throttle bodies last week for my 206 and it was just over £2000
since then i have been thinking about about putting the EW12 engine in my car too as it has a lot more power plus 160lb torque
#94: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:43 pm ---- You can get them far cheaper, PM macj if his offer for ITB's+ECU is still up. Also, it's not necessary to buy Jenvey ITB's, if you have a few skills you can use bike TB's for far less.
P.s. if you'll use the ew12j4 engine, you need to know that the use of an aftermarket ECU is highly recommended (or at least one of a GTi180).
#95: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:29 am ---- Video from the latest Time Attack...enjoy
#96: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: tobycooke, Location: N walesPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:42 am ---- lovely job there mate, look very slick
#97: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:38 pm ---- Heh thanks...will look a lot better next year with the engine upgrade and slick tires =) I tried slicks on that day, but it was too late and too cold, so I spun out in one of the fast corners (rear tires just didn't get warm enough) but the difference in grip in the sharp turns was unbelievable, even though only the front tires were warmed up.
#98: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: AusScare, Location: Brisbane, AustraliaPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:41 am ---- Bit of work being done there, how come you've chosen na over turbo? Just a cost thing?
#99: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:10 pm ---- Heh, so much updating goes on in this section, I've missed my own thread In my opinion the 206 is a bit small to turbo charge. And of course there was the money issue But if would have gone down the FI route, I would have chose a compressor set up. Much more linear power delivery, there for a lot better suited for track use, as well as daily driving
#100: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:24 pm ---- Here's a translation of the post that the guy behind the transformation of the engine made on our forums. Please do correct me if you see a mistake. I am not that familiar with some of more specialized English terms, so there might be quite a few mistakes in the following text.
And it has begun.
When we first took off the exhaust manifold, it wasn't quite clear why's the second cylinder exhaust black. There definitely had to be something with the injection or the burning of the mixture itself. Even the spark plugs were "tutti frutti", two of them weren't even the same color, but okay, the engine has done over 200kkm and the "brilliant" Sagem coilpacks didn't do any favors so it isn't all that surprising that the engine is a bit worn.
First real shock followed when the head was taken off. What school teaches that when you change the head gasket you sand the old gasket down with sand paper ...well nothing unusual, having in mind that a buddy learning to be a mechanic told us that the professor taught them that at class Not to mention it was full of silicone, even were there was no need for it (gaskets)...but that's all behind now...
This is how it looks:
The cylinder head was also measured and the valves are bigger then the ew10 j4. The exhaust one is 2mm bigger as well as the intake one, which gives us a better starting point for modifications.
Two more pics of the cylinder head:
First real worry was the main shaft. One of the connecting rod bearings was measured and the other three checked. They were definitely already replaced as those were the best looking bearings on an engine with more than 20kkm. So they must have been changed recently.
Numbers look great. They have just the right amount of play and we're just hoping, that the bearings on the main shaft are in the same condition.
There is one more thing with this engine. It has balancing rods (is this the right term?). They're placed there to keep the engine running very smoothly. but if we'll get the info that we can remove them safely, then that big piece of iron is definitely going out. Some fiat/lancia/alfa egines have them as well, but they are belt driven and people usually just unplug them.
This is how they look:
Oh one more thing. Remember the black exhaust pipe no.2? That was due to an injector on the second cylinder. There was no rubber (like a little gasket) under the injector and on the third one it was half torn. I really do wonder how this engine ran when it was still in the car
This is it for mow. We need to make a few measurements before we take the block apart but we're still waiting for a specific tool, which should be arriving soon. JLD Performance.
#101: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:13 pm ---- Nice project Your English is better than most people on here so don't worry about it!
#102: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (page 6 update) Author: tb206hdi, Location: DenmarkPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:05 am ----
hehe braking hard and the indicators starts to flash
I'm glad my HDI is an old one from 01
Project looking really good.
#103: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:04 pm ---- haha tb206hdi, yes that's quite annoying but I got used to it. At first my friends were laughing their asses of as they thought I was switching on the indicators while steering left and right
And back to the topic, we've decided that we're going to make our own throttle bodies. The reason for this, they can be designed just the way we want to, they will be far cheaper than Jenvey ones and we can make them look as standard as possible.
BTW I found a pic of the car on the latest track setup
I believe I'll keep the all white theme on racetracks
#104: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:49 am ---- nice video of the track session! liking your pug
#105: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:59 am ---- If you need a DTA S60 for below RRP then give me a PM!
Nice looking project, good luck with it all!
#106: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:16 am ---- Thanks Jamie, I'll contact you when the funds will be available if you'll still have it But we need to sort out the mechanical things first before we move onto electronics
#107: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:10 am ---- Guys help me out, I need some tehnical help =) Does anybody know the size of the five bearings on the GTi cams? We're wondering if we could fit cams for the GTi into the ew12 engine so could anybody shed some light on the subject please
#108: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:19 am ---- Do the balancing shafts make the sump deeper than the one on the EW10?
Do you want measurements from both 138 cams? I've got some wrapped up in a cupboard upstairs. If you want any measurements let me know. I've also got a Piper 270 degree inlet cam to measure.
#109: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:55 am ---- This is the inlet cam. I've just measured the max lobe diameter and the minimum and the difference is 8.8mm so I think it's a standard cam. I'll have to compare it to one i have in another head which is known to be standard.
Anyway, starting at the pulley end of the camshaft, the bearings meaure:
29.96mm, 29.48mm, 28.98mm, 28.43mm, 28mm.
Do you want the exhaust cam measurements too?
#110: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:28 pm ---- Thanks Edward, I really appreciate it. Could you please also measure the exhaust one, though I presume it should be the same.
As for the sump we haven't measured it but as far as I can remember it's quite a bit deeper.
#111: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:17 pm ---- Let's continue:
Thanks to Edwards measurements we now also know that the GTi cams will fit as the bearings match
All the pistons and cylinders were measured and we came to the conclusion, that the engine is in good condition. There is 0,05mm play between the cylinder walls and piston skirts. there is also no damage visible to the piston ring beds so the engine. We still need to check the main shaft bearings, because we ran out of time yesterday.
This is how the tool for measuring cylinders and pistons looks like:
Dirty four and some other parts:
We've also measured distance between the valves and pistons at TDC. Due to the intake valves the piston cutouts will need to be a bit deeper but the exhaust ones have enough clearance. Max lift with the standard valve springs was also measured and we will need to change them as they would cause coil-bound with the chosen cams at max lift.
JLD Performance
#112: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:19 pm ---- One of very few 'proper' project threads on here.
#113: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:29 pm ---- Just noticed the EW12 head has a big E2 embossed onto the end. The EW10 has E0 on the end of it. Anybody know what the 180 has?
#114: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:38 am ---- @Edward, I believe it has a E1 but I'm not sure, It's been a long time since I've seen one. Nicely spotted btw.
Okay let's get you guys up to speed. Not much has happened since last time I posted, but let me just list the stuff.
I bought 16 new hydraulic lifters as they seem to be causing problems for me on the current engine and I didn't want to take any chances with the new one. Also one of the original ones was already broken and two were stuck if I remember correctly.
Also the guys at JLD Performance are putting together a flow bench (for the obvious reason).
All the pistons have been cleaned and the engine block was also scrubbed. So it's all nice and shiny...sort of
And now all the small parts are being bought like main bearings, piston rings, semerings, etc. Then we're moving on to the more expensive parts such as camshafts, springs pulleys.
So I'll keep you updated as much as possible.
Oh and by the way here a pic from a very nice afternoon trip:
#115: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / TurkeyPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:51 pm ---- Any update ?
#116: Re: ZiAn's pride & joy 206GTi (EW12J4 ITB in progress) pg.7 Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:01 pm ---- Hay zian how did you fit the 180 speedo to the standard gti? As I wanted to do this??