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[solved] Starting problem with a difference
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#1: [solved] Starting problem with a difference Author: Locky, Location: Newcastle / Plymouth PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:32 am
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Hi guys, ive had a search around and cant quite find the symptoms im having so thought I best post and see if anyone can help me out.

Multiplexed 2.0HDI, Im only driving my car at weekends now, last week when it started after a bit of reluctance, I put that down to the cold.

Today, I primed it 3 times, then tried to start. Did about 4 attempts turn over then it started to slow down so I stopped and tried again.
The sound of the pump prime was very lazy, and this time 'passenger airbag disabled' lit up, the car made a 'bong' sound (not the normal beep) and the windscreen wipers started to do a a very lazy sweep. (no i hadnt hit the stalk!)

Tested battery, its fluctuating around 12V so from what I understand, that should be sufficient. At this point im now worried this lack of starting has now fudged my BSI or something.

I do the BSI soft reboot, when I turn on the ignition the priming sounds normal again so I have hope, but trying to turn over the engine again sounds really sluggish and just results in a 'bong' sound and the wipers trying to sweep.

Any ideas on my next steps? Starter motor springs to mind of course, but would these be normal side effects? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks.

Last edited by Locky on Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:14 am; edited 1 time in total

#2: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:43 am
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12v isn't enough!

#3: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: Locky, Location: Newcastle / Plymouth PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:46 am
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I thought it was 12v at rest and 14v running?

I'm happy to be wrong if it just a case of a new battery.

#4: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam........... PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:49 am
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Locky wrote:
I thought it was 12v at rest and 14v running?

I'm happy to be wrong if it just a case of a new battery.

12.4/12.6 is what you needed ideally.

#5: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:51 am
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Q) Is my battery flat?
A) Take it for a test 9/10 car garages or automotive shops will test them for free. If you have a multimeter you can check it yourself.
Battery voltage, approx power
Voltage ............Approximate charge
12.65 V ............100%
12.45 V............ 75%
12.24 V ............50%
12.06 V ............25%
11.89 V............ 0%

#6: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: Locky, Location: Newcastle / Plymouth PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:52 am
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Ok cheers guys. Can you tell me if that other crazy shiz with the wipers and error messgages would be down to that also or have I possibly created another problem?

#7: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:52 am
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Bosch or varta is the brand you want

#8: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:54 am
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Locky wrote:
Ok cheers guys. Can you tell me if that other crazy shiz with the wipers and error messgages would be down to that also or have I possibly created another problem?

My battery was causing all symptoms you described above until I bought a boshe S4 battery all faults (air bag/wipers/bong) gone. The old battery did well for 5 years

#9: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: Locky, Location: Newcastle / Plymouth PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:04 am
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Yeah I've just gone and taken another reading and it is a solid 11.95 so that's pretty dead then.

And I'm really relieved to hear the symptoms are inkeeping with a flat battery.

Yeah I was already thinking S4. You know what I got a feeling my current Varta is as old as the car.

#10: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:10 am
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When you remove your old battery make sure you follow the correct battery disconnection procedure Smile

#11: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:11 am
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www.206info.co.uk/Foru.../t=95.html

#12: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: Locky, Location: Newcastle / Plymouth PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:15 am
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Thanks for the speedy help DEP.

DeadEyePaul wrote:
When you remove your old battery make sure you follow the correct battery disconnection procedure Smile

Yeah I know about that. Switch everything off, remove key, window down, close door, wait 3 minutes, jump to the left, step to the right, put your hands on your hips....

Last edited by Locky on Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:17 am; edited 1 time in total

#13: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:16 am
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Laughing the Peugeot dance

#14: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: Locky, Location: Newcastle / Plymouth PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:35 am
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Eurocarparts down the road got the S4's £74.
My mate has been wanting me to check out his Carrera 4 for a while - what a happy coincidence Very Happy

#15: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:36 am
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This has come in handy Very Happy Mine has the same problems.

#16: Re: Starting problem with a difference Author: Locky, Location: Newcastle / Plymouth PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:38 am
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Cool im glad its helped someone else too.

I will be sure to update and mark it solved once I test a new battery.

#17: Re: [solved] Starting problem with a difference Author: Locky, Location: Newcastle / Plymouth PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:17 am
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Happy to report fitting a new Bosch S4 has solved this problem.
Thanks to DEP for the info.

Can a mod move this to the solved section please.

#18: Re: [solved] Starting problem with a difference Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,Warwickshire PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:23 am
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Great to hear! I'm very happy with my s4 bosch battery Smile



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