#1: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: sam93, Location: CheshirePosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:14 pm ---- Hi there,
I have found a 206 GTI 140bhp model.
Got 100k on clock, SP Kit, steering controls etc... But are there any common problems with them I should be looking out for which can lower the value of these etc... and not cheap to repair? Or repairs which aint visible unless you really look for them?
Also, why do they seem not to hold their value well? Also, are they tune-able well? And what would they be like to a 106 GTI?
I'm looking for a fastish cheap to run car atm so it seems to tick boxes as does 45mpg on motorway where I will mainly be using it on. But I like a fast car when hit the lanes etc...
#2: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: deebee, Location: BirminghamPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:33 pm ---- Can i say one thing without sounding rude. your names sam 93 so i supposing you 18 same as me? have even tried getting isured on a 206 gti 140 model? Ive got a 2.0 litre hdi 90 bhp model and mate I'm paying 3000 for that LMAO
#3: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: sam93, Location: CheshirePosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:35 pm ---- Nah buddy, I'm 19... My insurance is just a tad over a grand Had a Golf GTI mk3 16v before this and currently have a BMW which I pay 1100 on.
Haggling with Admiral always pays off
#4: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: deebee, Location: BirminghamPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:38 pm ---- OMG! mind you chesire is it nice round there?
I live in erdington in birmingham hence the big price tag and i on my own policy lol
#5: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: scottsgti, Location: ramsgatePosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:40 pm ---- i've had mine for just under 2 years and done roughly 10k miles in it and it's NEVER had a problem, other than wheel bearings needing replacing, and a few lil things like new pads and tyres. there really reliable motors (well mine has been anyways)
as to why they dont hold there value, i have no idea. i paid 3k for mine just tried selling it for 1,500 with years mot, 6 months tax and a new cambelt and waterpump and not a single person phoned the whole time i had it advertised lol.
only thing i can think of is the price to insure them perhaps puts people off?
#6: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: furryhobnob, Location: NuneatonPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:42 pm ---- I had a gti138 for nearly 4 years and didn't have any problems other than usual wear and tear stuff
#7: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: drunknmunky, Location: Blackburn and CatterickPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:42 pm ---- deebee dont forget insurance goes a lot on postcode aswell as if you add named drivers it may drop some aswell as if you have no claims and where it stays overnight and so on....
as for sam93 my personal opinion if your looking to get 45mpg i would look elsewhere ive never seen mine get above 30 but mine is a 180 i also wouldnt go for one with 100k on the clock either but that might just be me.
they dont hold value cause of the cost to tax insure and run the things and nearly everyone these days is looking for cheap to run cars, not very well tuneable due to being N/A but if your wanting the mpg you wouldnt want to tune as your gonna lose it the faster you get the car anwyay?
i would hope its recently had a cambelt and water pump doen maybe even a second time with those sort of miles and as for stuff to look out for i cant really say as i aint had any problems with mine
#8: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: scottsgti, Location: ramsgatePosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:49 pm ---- yeah you would definitely need to make sure it's had a fairly recent cambelt and waterpump change if you was going to get it with 100k on the clocks.
other than that it should be fine.
#9: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: rick-gti, Location: welshpool, mid walesPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:51 pm ---- Ive had mine for a year now and had two 306 gti6s aswell all very reliable but some are better than others. Just make sure you get one with service history. You will be lucky to get 35mpg from a 140 gti, my gti6 would do 45mpg easy on a long trip but the 206 struggles to do 35mpg.
#10: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: sam93, Location: CheshirePosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:52 pm ---- Hmm... I was looking on the internet... Around town, they aint great. But on motorway seem pretty damn good tbh. If averages 30mpg, I would be fine
Trying to currently move closer to work lol. But I should be getting fuel allowance sorted so shouldn't be to bad
Tuneable NA is always expensive. The 106 GTI seems alright prices for NA tune ability so if similar I'm sorted. Don't want anything turbo'd at the moment, drove a turbo'd car and couldn't keep of boost, its just pulling. But if you can get an NA car to be very quick. More of an accomplishment
I will be looking for an alright car for the minute, 206 GTI just seems alright. The mileage doesn't bother me, my current car has 175k on it, and when you drive it you wouldn't think it, responsive both on the throttle and steering.
Old dear has a 206 CC with 140bhp engine, so she don't moan on fuel haha.
Aslong as it beats my Golf 250 miles to a tank of fuel! What does yours get to a tank?
They seem pretty solid engines then. I've always stayed away from French as the dreaded reliability stories, always had german and jap cars.
BMW only seems good on fuel as the tank is huge on it.
#11: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: furryhobnob, Location: NuneatonPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:53 pm ---- I used to get nearly 40mpg in my Gti, all lane driving to work, I average about 34mpg in the 180
#12: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: sam93, Location: CheshirePosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:59 pm ----
furryhobnob wrote:
I used to get nearly 40mpg in my Gti, all lane driving to work, I average about 34mpg in the 180
Thats sweet. Average of 30mpg is all that I need About 2 gallon of fuel a day then, so £12ish a day
#13: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: drunknmunky, Location: Blackburn and CatterickPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:03 pm ---- yeah internet isnt always a great source it depends on how you as a person drive? i personally have a heavy right foot and overtake a lot
im not sure about prices for stuff compared to the 106 GTi but i find its pretty damn expensive just to gain maybe 20bhp if your lucky? maybe the 140 engine is a bit better for gain and cheaper for parts?
I wouldnt call it an accomplishment to get it quick just spending a lot of money if im honest.....
As for the mileage i would go check the car out and test drive it see how it feels to you and if you like it go for it but as said id want service history and cambelt and water pump done recently!
She wont moan about fuel as she wont put her foot down too much i wouldnt have thought?
All the storys about unreliability are the ones that have been ragged or problem cars when bought i bought mine near as new and never had anything wrong with it! My full tank once got me 160 miles but keep in mind mines a 180 and that was a drive to wales mainly motorway and open roads....
I want to go german next myself or at least something a bit more "prestige"
At the end of the day its your choice and that but my personal opinion from what you want and what you plan on doing im not sure wether its right for you or not im swaying towards it not being......
#14: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: sam93, Location: CheshirePosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:11 pm ---- It seems like a good money maker tbh It has FSH
The inside of the 206 GTI is more luxury than my BMW!
If get it and don't like it, swapz will be calling
Running something like a diesel is pointless due to the fact to an extra 10p extra a litre, not really worth it :/ See what its like. I can have a heavy foot, but if need to, will drive economically Used to be able to pull 35mpg out of a Golf, but that was head hurting driving, and was a right struggle, usually got 28mpg out of it driving like a nun. But yeah, I used to get tempted to open that up. but mature a bit, and if needs be I can drive economically. If I have spare money to burn, will happily change just before redline (private road at all)
#15: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:27 pm ----
deebee wrote:
Can i say one thing without sounding rude. your names sam 93 so i supposing you 18 same as me? have even tried getting isured on a 206 gti 140 model? Ive got a 2.0 litre hdi 90 bhp model and mate I'm paying 3000 for that LMAO
Im 18 and pay 1500 for my GTi 138.
#16: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: Seabook, Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:27 pm ---- DW10 diesel is for it's reliability, mpg is just an extra bonus...
#17: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: Martind, Location: Woolsery, North DevonPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:49 pm ----
furryhobnob wrote:
I used to get nearly 40mpg in my Gti, all lane driving to work, I average about 34mpg in the 180
I get around that in mine.
Had a 206CC 2.0, and that was pretty good but this hatch is much better.
Also (I don't know about anyone else's) but with mine, it doesn't seem to matter if you drive it pretty hard, are with a really light foot. It gets the same sort of MPG.
Parts aren't too dear to replace either.
#18: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: phillspug, Location: LeicestershirePosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:53 pm ---- Seem to be losing the point of the op's question common problems to look out for, check the steering on full lock at slow speed, cv joints are a common problem fairly cheap and easy fix but still a £200 repair bill after you've brought it can be a nasty shock welcome to the site btw
Could always get the 1.6 110 bhp instead bit easier on fuel, insurance and road tax !
#19: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: Seabook, Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:59 pm ---- head gasket failure (not as common as TU5)
coilpack+plug (misfire)
tappets problems (common on early gti)
exhaust manifold rattle (quick fix with a bit of welding)
rear axle bearing collapse (common on all 206)
#20: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: deebee, Location: BirminghamPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:26 pm ---- lets put it this way...
its not the car its the owner.
I had 206 hdi van i ddint have to replace a thing in a year. except belt that does power steering ect.
I now have 2.0 litre turbo and in the 6 months I've had it,
driveshaft went. radiator went. exhsuast is falling to pieces. brake pads needs replacing. tyre popped. steering column will need replacing soon. and headlights are faulty.
Trust me its about it's past not the make and model.
#21: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: sam93, Location: CheshirePosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:33 pm ----
phillspug wrote:
Seem to be losing the point of the op's question common problems to look out for, check the steering on full lock at slow speed, cv joints are a common problem fairly cheap and easy fix but still a £200 repair bill after you've brought it can be a nasty shock welcome to the site btw
Could always get the 1.6 110 bhp instead bit easier on fuel, insurance and road tax !
£200 for a CV joint repair? £20 per CV Joint from a place I get mine from... And driveshaft removal to change. So £20 per CV Joint :/ Don't need garages to do my work so wont get labour charges, do it all my self.
Seabook wrote:
head gasket failure (not as common as TU5)
coilpack+plug (misfire)
tappets problems (common on early gti)
exhaust manifold rattle (quick fix with a bit of welding)
rear axle bearing collapse (common on all 206)
Sweet cheers
A lot of engines actually seem to be tappety anyway. The 206 GTI 140 engine hydraulic tappets?
Those things nice and simple to sort to be honest, and probably not very expensive to do. All cars will have slight problems etc!
Reading up on the cars, and they seem alright to be honest. I doubt they will have the inside comforts of vdubs etc... which I've mainly owned, but see what happens, probably like the little things about the car. And happy with anything, as learn the cars limits and to have a laugh, put the car on those limits!
#22: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: Seabook, Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:38 pm ---- nothing really major tbh,
if you can get parts at trade price then there is nothing to worry about....
CV joint on 206 are quite reliable, as long as the boot didn't get damaged...
mine was 12 years old already and no click noise at all
#23: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: AshH, Location: BirminghamPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:02 am ---- We upgraded from a Highly Tuned 106 GTi to the 206 GTi 180.
And in out opinions much better! More Eco, steers better, comfy, looks etc...
Even though the 106 was a pocket rocket and would make you shake like f**k when you get out of it, i still find the 206 better!
Hope this helps, just giving advice from someone who came from a 106 to a 206 (y)
#24: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: sam93, Location: CheshirePosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:34 pm ---- Will deffo find out if I get it and start driving it around. See what I make of it... Just looking at reviews on the net and not really much like that compared to German rivals etc...
May keep it for a bit and then get rid, if not, going for the cheap power option being annoying vtec following but owned a Civic before and didn't like the interior or drive of it at all!
#25: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: pug206lx, Location: Taking a gearbox off somewherePosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:33 pm ---- Great cars. I've had mine for a year and never regretted buying it. It looks nice, its comfy, handles very well, not the fastest thing i've driven but it has lots of go.
It gets about 30mpg but then i do think mine is over-fuelling and I do tend to be heavy with the pedal at times.
#26: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:54 am ----
drunknmunky wrote:
they dont hold value cause of the cost to tax insure and run the things and nearly everyone these days is looking for cheap to run cars, not very well tuneable due to being N/A
They seem to hold their value quite well - probably something to do with them being old and not worth massive money anymore. Depreciation won't be a worry for anybody other than the biggests tightwads.
As for not being tuneable then for £30 you aren't going to get much but with the right budget you can get decent power out of them.
#27: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: Linkpad, Location: WalesPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:13 am ---- Ive had my 206 GTi for 6 months and its been a nightmare !! Rear axel, electrical faults, bulbs blowing, front steering problems, tyres wearing excessively, expensive road tax my advice GET an AUDI A4 !!
#28: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: m4tth3w, Location: sheffieldPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:36 am ---- I bought 206gti 2001 model in December, it had 113k.
Problems were just leaking brake fluid which turned out to be clutch master cylinder which has now been replaced.
I think it has a tempramental fan as over heated once after a 300 mile trip, but filled back up with coolant and been fine since.
Other than that it's just general wear and tear items, tire's, couple of dashboard bulbs and it's getting ready for a new exhaust. 65 quid for a cheap one or 150 for ss
It will need a timing belt if not done already and most car's around this age will probably be overdue some tlc with consumables.
They are cheap to buy as expensive to insure and tax and unlikely to buy a French car of this age that won't need money spending on it. Having said that for under a grand which I paid they are a total blast to drive, look good and does around 33mpg which isn't really that bad.
I wouldn't have bought it at your age though but at 35 and 300 quid fully comp it's all gravy Last edited by m4tth3w on Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:48 am; edited 1 time in total
#29: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: m4tth3w, Location: sheffieldPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:46 am ---- As for common problems I think they are.
Rattle's from engine, timing belt or manifold
Coolling system, thermostat
Drive shaft and wheel bearings
Electrical issues, warning lights
Airbags warning lights
These are some of the common issues talked about on here.
Just buy with an open mind, realise it will probably have some minor issues now or in the future and buy as cheap as possible and use money saved towards any issues.
#30: Re: Thinking about buying a 206 GTI Author: hayes_ctfc, Location: CheltenhamPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:16 am ---- Just to chuck this one out there, I'm 19 and have 2.0 dTurbo 90 and pay just shy of £1500 on my insurance with me as the registered keeper and policy holder, none of this parents crap with me as a named driver, and that's with a crash admitted and 0 NCB
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Had a Golf GTI mk3 16v before this and currently have a BMW which I pay 1100 on.
i also wouldnt go for one with 100k on the clock either but that might just be me.
but keep in mind mines a 180 and that was a drive to wales mainly motorway and open roads....
