#1: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:24 am ---- Ive decided ill make a start on a thread for my project, so here it is.
I passed my test on 8th November 2010 and was already insured on my mums little corsa c that I had learnt to drive in, I continued on my mums insureance when it was due for renewal in june 2011 and used the car for work as she also has another car for work anyway she said I could do what I want with it so I slapped on some white alloys etc etc. but I was fed up because all my mates I worked with were driving around in decent cars, (gti 180’s , clio 192’s/182’s and corsa 1.6t’s) they were mostly all on their parents insurance but paying whey more than what I paid for my little corsa 1.2, anyway after months of saving I started looking at what car to buy next, well I had to get insurance quotes on them all and decided that id go on my own insurance when I turn nineteen (3rd june 2012) because it wasn’t worth going on my mums on the new car due to the fact it was only like £500 cheaper and I wouldn’t have been getting any no claims bonus, so on my own at nineteen fully comp with no noclaims bonus on cars that I liked including (audi tt’s, gti 180s and the clio 182’s) insurance prices were from £2900 to £3700!! :/ I was gutted but realise I may aswell bite the bullet so I went for the gti180 because I bloody love them and for the price of the car I don’t think there is many cars that have as good spec for under four grand to be honest. Anyway heres the beast I picked:
I had to travel to Manchester to get it as it was exactly what I wanted and had 37k miles on the clock which for an 04 plate I didn’t think was bad at all really.
Once home I gave her a damn good clean and this is what she looked like :
I noticed there were some swirl marks and the paintwork felt a little bit rough and im picky so I couldn’t stand it haha so I ordered a Maguire’s clay bar kit, Maguire’s swirl x and some collinite wax to give it a good chance at staying red
Didn’t really get any good pictures of the swirl marks before because my phone camera wouldn’t pick them up for some reason :/ anyway here’s some pictures of after :
So that’s it so far but I do plan on some slight modifications.
Here’s a to do list iv made so far:
Get some new lion badges for the wheels
Change the lockwood front grill to a standard honey comb
Spray the wheels gloss black (unsure as yet to do this)
Put some decent shoes on her as shes running on budgets at the moment.
(Avon’s £83 PW????)
Mask the crystals black. (like masked valeos)
Lower it by no more than 35mm, but im unsure what springs/dampers to go for ( want handling but my budget is only £400)
Janspeed exhaust when mine rots through as its original
K&N panel filter- done
Possibly remap
Ooooo and cambelt as it hasn’t been changed yet
I was thinking of camming it but not too aggressive, would it be worth the money??
oh and my folding mirrors dont fold for some reason bit gutted not going to lie, ive tried my mates switch and its not that, anyone got any ideas????
UP DATE:
Just a quick one I've fitted myself a K&N panel filter
Update 2: I stiripped Down the front brakes and gave them a good clean up and also painted the calipers red, whilst I was doing this I checked the front disks.... They were absolutely shot through, the back side of them was so thin they looked like they had just given up on life so replaced them aswell as new ferodo premium pads. I've also now polished the inlet manifold a bit and took the top cambelt cover off to see if it had any major wear on it which it didn't but It's 8 years old now so I thought it would be best to get it done, I looked into doing it myself as I'm a fitter but iv got that much on at the minute and I think I'd need to allow a couple of days to get it right, I just can't fit it in so I rang a local garage and they want £280 to do it including the cam belt kit but no water pump but then again the pump shouldn't have much wear with it only having 37k miles,
What do you guys think to the quote I got and the water pump situation ??? Last edited by Johnbyron on Wed May 23, 2012 2:48 am; edited 2 times in total
#2: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: DMB2101, Location: ScotlandPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:36 am ---- Thats a nice car mate. Very little miles on it as well good choice
#3: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: JordGJ, Location: Leeds / West MidlandsPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:37 am ---- it's really nice man, but i don't understand how 19 year olds can afford to drive cars like this. I'm 20 now, when i first passed 2 or 3 years ago insurance on anything more than a 1.4 was just ridiculous. You say all you're mates drive clio 182s etc, where im from all my mates had a 1.1/1.4 occasionally someone with rich parents would get a 1.6. Basically you're lucky to be able to drive that at 19 make the most of it
#4: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: martinius88, Location: Rushden, NorthantsPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:45 am ---- Tidy looking 180 mate, very good condition. I would go for white wheels, I might have even done the photoshop for you in the post about wheel colour. I've been looking at getting my 138 cammed, it is expensive, I know on the 138 the output figures can be pretty good (when combined with a re-map, no point putting the cmas in without a re-map as they wont work effectively), but there are others that say there are other more effective ways to get the higher figures. TB's and the like.
#5: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: JordGJ, Location: Leeds / West MidlandsPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:49 am ---- oh and this is the best red 206 I know of:
#6: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:52 am ---- cheers Jord :), i know a am lucky to be honest but i can only afford it after nearly two years of saving and being employed as an apprentice mechanical engineer on the steelworks, most of my mates work on the steelworks and started at the same as me but some of them are now 20/21 so obviously they had the advantage of being able to get better (not good but better) insurance quotes before me, and the thing is they may have only been working for like a year maybe even two before they got a good car but most of them put it on tick which i didn’t want to do because of the current climate so i just saved for a lot longer and did some share dealing then bought the gti 180 for £3000 which is about what the 180s are worth now i think, even though i feel they are as good as an 08 plate corsa 1.6t, then insurance is another point ill be paying mine in full because i could wait, now one of these lads i know with the corsa has put his car on tick then paid £3k insurance in full, 8 months on and i ask have you nearly saved enough for your insurance renewal yet and he replied "no mate i havn’t been able to because iv been spending all my money on mods, so ill put it on pay monthly next year" so this kids going to be paying out nearly £600 a month on his corsa for at least two more years :/ now that is why i waited and saved like a mad man for about two years
#7: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:59 am ----
martinius88 wrote:
Tidy looking 180 mate, very good condition. I would go for white wheels, I might have even done the photoshop for you in the post about wheel colour. I've been looking at getting my 138 cammed, it is expensive, I know on the 138 the output figures can be pretty good (when combined with a re-map, no point putting the cmas in without a re-map as they wont work effectively), but there are others that say there are other more effective ways to get the higher figures. TB's and the like.
thanks martin and yeah i noticed you posted me a couple of photoshops cheers and yeah it bloody well is expensive haha and id heard about the good gains on a 138 but not sure what it would be on a 180 :/ ITB's also look good but really really expensive then
#8: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:01 am ----
that 206 is really nice !! im loving the black roof and they look like masked valeos
#9: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: puggy206, Location: scunthorpePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:05 am ---- I've pm'ed you mate =)
#10: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Icetto, Location: Cape TownPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:17 am ---- Perhaps get a black SP bumper grille
#11: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Dan-, Location: BiggleswadePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:21 am ---- Very nice 180 got a great base there, if I could find at red one at the time I got mine I probably would have got red!
#12: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:23 am ----
Icetto wrote:
Perhaps get a black SP bumper grille
i did consider it but arnt they a bit rare??? cant find them anywere :-/
#13: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: JamieM, Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:25 am ---- Biggest mistake I made was buying my 180 @ 18, paid 9k for the car and £4250 TPFT apparently your're not meant to be able to drive such a car till your 21, that was 7 yrs ago now though ha.
Looks nice.
I want to revert mine to honey combs but cba to faf with it all tbh lol
Remapping is defo worth it, I had a generic Angel Tuning remap and although it wasn't custom to my mods the car moved!
#14: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:26 am ----
Dan- wrote:
Very nice 180 got a great base there, if I could find at red one at the time I got mine I probably would have got red!
cheers Dan, for me it was either blue or red but because i couldnt choose between the two i just chose the one with the least millage and best price at the time
#15: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:34 am ----
JamieM wrote:
Biggest mistake I made was buying my 180 @ 18, paid 9k for the car and £4250 TPFT apparently your're not meant to be able to drive such a car till your 21, that was 7 yrs ago now though ha.
Looks nice.
I want to revert mine to honey combs but cba to faf with it all tbh lol
Remapping is defo worth it, I had a generic Angel Tuning remap and although it wasn't custom to my mods the car moved!
Jesus that’s a hell of allot of cash to spend at 18 i couldn’t bring myself to that to be honest :')
Cheers and i just like the originality of the honey comb
Well i think ill have to get it remapped if it really does make a difference, did you have an aftermarket filter or stainless steel exhaust on aswell ?? Or did you just use a generic map to run without modifications???
#16: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Razpulsedj, Location: Partying with the Info ShufflersPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:30 am ---- You already know my thoughts on this car sweet and such a stylish car dude
When its on the road you, me, Lee and Jensen will need a photoshoot
If it was my car i would go for a red and white theme and seeing it being done before is very nice and such a head turner
Also dont forget mate that i can do that carbon wrapping for you as and when just let me know
#17: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:13 am ---- thanks ryan
yeah we're gunna have to get some snaps at some point, not sure were tho haha actually heres were me and look got some snaps one afternoon .....:
not a bad place for pics near my house on a riverbank you can get shots with the warf in the background aswell
and yeah id deffinatly get some wrapping done just not sure when yet
#18: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: JamieM, Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:39 am ----
Johnbyron wrote:
JamieM wrote:
Biggest mistake I made was buying my 180 @ 18, paid 9k for the car and £4250 TPFT apparently your're not meant to be able to drive such a car till your 21, that was 7 yrs ago now though ha.
Looks nice.
I want to revert mine to honey combs but cba to faf with it all tbh lol
Remapping is defo worth it, I had a generic Angel Tuning remap and although it wasn't custom to my mods the car moved!
Jesus that’s a hell of allot of cash to spend at 18 i couldn’t bring myself to that to be honest :')
Cheers and i just like the originality of the honey comb
Well i think ill have to get it remapped if it really does make a difference, did you have an aftermarket filter or stainless steel exhaust on aswell ?? Or did you just use a generic map to run without modifications???
Haha yeah the 180 wasn't that old at the time though tbf, was like 2 yr old I think.
My first 180 had a Scorpion catback & the same filter as my current one. The map Nigel from Angel tuning put on was apparently tweaked abit for the mods but was by no means custom.
I wouldn't use Angel again, although they have had along time to get things sorted and more reliable. It took 3 attempts to map my old 180! Go to RSTuning in Leeds, will cost around £300 just been quoted.
#19: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,WarwickshirePosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:00 am ----
NIIIICE
#20: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:24 am ---- [/quote] Haha yeah the 180 wasn't that old at the time though tbf, was like 2 yr old I think.
My first 180 had a Scorpion catback & the same filter as my current one. The map Nigel from Angel tuning put on was apparently tweaked abit for the mods but was by no means custom.
I wouldn't use Angel again, although they have had along time to get things sorted and more reliable. It took 3 attempts to map my old 180! Go to RSTuning in Leeds, will cost around £300 just been quoted.[/quote]
what sort of bhp do you think youd get from just a remap on the 180??
#21: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: JamieM, Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:36 am ---- I don't know mate, depends on the car but IIRC it's up to 10bhp possibly more, possibly less.
#22: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:51 am ---- hmm think ill wait untill i get the janspeed and panel filter first then decide.
#23: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: JamieM, Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:06 am ---- It's not just about bhp though.
It makes a huge difference on the car IMO.
And, you do mods before you get a car mapped unless you aren't modding and just want the ecu mapped. Even with a generic map the car will still make use of the mods installed just not as efficiently IIRC.
#24: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:37 am ---- i gave RS Tuning a ring today and they told me that if they did a remap for me i should expect to see around +10bhp with a janspeed and a K&N panel filter, i also asked if they’ve mapped gti 180's that run up rated cams and they said yes but the gains are so little its not worth the money so i think ill just wait and buy a janspeed exhaust and get it re-mapped by them
#25: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:48 am ----
Johnbyron wrote:
i gave RS Tuning a ring today and they told me that if they did a remap for me i should expect to see around +10bhp with a janspeed and a K&N panel filter, i also asked if they’ve mapped gti 180's that run up rated cams and they said yes but the gains are so little its not worth the money so i think ill just wait and buy a janspeed exhaust and get it re-mapped by them
Yeah they mean gains in BHP. That doesn't mean everything you know! Most cars gain around 10-20 bhp mapped so will the 180 closer to 10 though. A Cam'd and mapped 180 would d**k a mapped 180 all day long.
For the money however camming a 180 isn't worth it.
#26: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:05 am ---- thinking about it camming isnt really very practical is it, i mean i dont think youd notice much change if you were driving the car too and from work every day in terms of power but i bet it gobbles more fuel as the VVT would kick in earlier wouldnt it??, but if you were racing it etc. then yeah cams would be beneficial, i know what your saying about the feel of the car when re mapped.
from what i gathered off the guy from RS Tuning there is an improvement to be had from a standard 180 when mapped without the sports exhaust or change in filter.
#27: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: JamieM, Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:15 am ----
Johnbyron wrote:
thinking about it camming isnt really very practical is it, i mean i dont think youd notice much change if you were driving the car too and from work every day in terms of power but i bet it gobbles more fuel as the VVT would kick in earlier wouldnt it??, but if you were racing it etc. then yeah cams would be beneficial, i know what your saying about the feel of the car when re mapped.
from what i gathered off the guy from RS Tuning there is an improvement to be had from a standard 180 when mapped without the sports exhaust or change in filter.
Modding isn't very practical! You don't modify a car trying to alter it's performance with MPG in mind (sorry shouldn't lol)! When RSTuning map your car they will lower the VVT kick in too you know... so it will drink more fuel, people say you can achieve better MPG but when the powers available that goes out the window lol.
Map any standard car and there is an improvement to be had mate.
What you will notice with the 180 is they brake easily, so parts are going to go quicker and be expensive to replace.
Owned 2 and although they're nice cars they're money pits, more so when modded and used how they were meant to be not fannying around looking good hurhurhur.
Mapping a 180 is probably the best mod you can do bar sort the suspension. They can be quite quick if you have a goodn'
#28: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:36 am ----
JamieM wrote:
Johnbyron wrote:
thinking about it camming isnt really very practical is it, i mean i dont think youd notice much change if you were driving the car too and from work every day in terms of power but i bet it gobbles more fuel as the VVT would kick in earlier wouldnt it??, but if you were racing it etc. then yeah cams would be beneficial, i know what your saying about the feel of the car when re mapped.
from what i gathered off the guy from RS Tuning there is an improvement to be had from a standard 180 when mapped without the sports exhaust or change in filter.
Modding isn't very practical! You don't modify a car trying to alter it's performance with MPG in mind (sorry shouldn't lol)! When RSTuning map your car they will lower the VVT kick in too you know... so it will drink more fuel, people say you can achieve better MPG but when the powers available that goes out the window lol.
Map any standard car and there is an improvement to be had mate.
What you will notice with the 180 is they brake easily, so parts are going to go quicker and be expensive to replace.
Owned 2 and although they're nice cars they're money pits, more so when modded and used how they were meant to be not fannying around looking good hurhurhur.
Mapping a 180 is probably the best mod you can do bar sort the suspension. They can be quite quick if you have a goodn'
yeah i know what you mean but what i should of said was that changing the cams will alter the fuel input a lot more than just a remap from what youve stated above jamie, thats exactly the reason i dont want to f***y around any more than fitting an exhaust and getting a remap (engine wise)
#29: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:38 am ---- Update 2: I stiripped Down the front brakes and gave them a good clean up and also painted the calipers red, whilst I was doing this I checked the front disks.... They were absolutely shot through, the back side of them was so thin they looked like they had just given up on life so replaced them aswell as new ferodo premium pads. I've also now polished the inlet manifold a bit and took the top cambelt cover off to see if it had any major wear on it which it didn't but It's 8 years old now so I thought it would be best to get it done, I looked into doing it myself as I'm a fitter but iv got that much on at the minute and I think I'd need to allow a couple of days to get it right, I just can't fit it in so I rang a local garage and they want £280 to do it including the cam belt kit but no water pump but then again the pump shouldn't have much wear with it only having 37k miles,
What do you guys think to the quote I got and the water pump situation ???
#30: Re: my project red gti 180 Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:06 am ---- It's been a stupidly long time since I updated this thread, not a lot has changed yet but things are being prepared before fitting
I got some avo coilovers from dan (thank you dan )and I have to say try make a massive differance when hard cornering , through the summer I had the dampening set pretty solid Because I love my smooth B roads
But now iv softened them up a bit for winter. Height wise iv only lowered it to match the rear at the moment but I'm going to lower it a bit more in February maybe March.
Iv bought myself some challengers off my mate to refurbish for £100, I know I know they're not the same as vortex's but they have never been kerbed, just have a bit of flaking on the paint. So I'm going to get a full set of tyres fitted but unsure as to which ones to get yet, I also will need some 5mm minimum spacers and a new set of bolts.
The only thing I'm unsure about with these wheels is what colour to spray them, I'm tied between an anthracite base coat and a black base coat... What I am sure about is the blue ghost pearl that will give almost a flip paint effect.
Leemadden sorted me out with a spare set of crystals that I will be spraying matt black in January or February.
I have also bought myself a honeycombe grill !! Finally thanks to Doncaster motorspares it was brand new unpackaged for £35 !! Bargin
And iv painted and fitted a set of sp arches thanks to ianlovatte
I haven't got many pictures to post up other than the ones with the arches and ones of the challengers but ill get them uploaded later.
So what shal I do about the colour on the wheels , do I go anthracite or black base coat ?? Whatever colour I do them I'm doing my mirror caps the same
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bit gutted not going to lie, ive tried my mates switch and its not that, anyone got any ideas????
so replaced them aswell as new ferodo premium pads. I've also now polished the inlet manifold a bit and took the top cambelt cover off to see if it had any major wear on it which it didn't but It's 8 years old now so I thought it would be best to get it done, I looked into doing it myself as I'm a fitter but iv got that much on at the minute and I think I'd need to allow a couple of days to get it right, I just can't fit it in so I rang a local garage and they want £280 to do it including the cam belt kit but no water pump but then again the pump shouldn't have much wear with it only having 37k miles,
cheers and yeah it bloody well is expensive haha and id heard about the good gains on a 138 but not sure what it would be on a 180 :/ ITB's also look good but really really expensive then 
