#1: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:09 am ---- neither of my mirrors fold in on my gti 180, iv tried my mates fully functioning switch and they still don’t budge... anybody got an idea as to what might cause them to not fold in???
by the way i bought the car with this fault.
#2: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:10 am ---- Checked the fuse?
#3: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:16 am ---- Folding motor / gearbox unit inside the mirror will be rusted up, common problem
Its a strip it apart, clean up & rebuild job.
Pack the motor / gearbox unit with Vaseline on rebuild to prevent it happening again in the future.
i dont know where that fuse will be ive had a look in the book and it doesnt specify a fuse for the folding mirrors...
MrBSI wrote:
Folding motor / gearbox unit inside the mirror will be rusted up, common problem
Its a strip it apart, clean up & rebuild job.
Pack the motor / gearbox unit with Vaseline on rebuild to prevent it happening again in the future.
Will it be likely that both of them have rusted up??
#5: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:28 am ----
Johnbyron wrote:
Will it be likely that both of them have rusted up??
If there not folded often then very likely.
#6: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:46 am ---- try squerting some wd40, to see if you can loosen em up, my GTi HDi drivers mirror would not budge, so i squirted it, now it moves freely (not electric folding, but they still fold in)
#7: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:24 am ---- Do the mirrors still move about, ie angle? Wouldn't have thought both would fail together?
Do the mirrors still move about, ie angle? Wouldn't have thought both would fail together?
I think you underestimate how s**t those mirrors are, I had to replace 3 in 2 years on my 180.
#9: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:43 am ---- Had a look at the wiring digram in Haynes. Fuse MF04 (70A) MF07 (30A) in engine fuse box and fuse F12 (30A) in passenger fuse box are for the mirrors. The manual doesn't cover GTi but I'm guessing that they will be the same.
By the look of it, it's a separate motor for the mirror adjustment to the folding function.
#10: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:58 am ---- thanks for all the replies, i will try and free them off with WD failing that ill try the fuses, failing that ill have to strip them both down just a pain in the a**e pulling it in and out the garage at the moment due to it being such a tight squeeze through the doors.
Steve206 wrote:
Do the mirrors still move about, ie angle? Wouldn't have thought both would fail together?
yeah i can still move the glass its just folding that doesnt work.
thanks for all the replies, i will try and free them off with WD failing that ill try the fuses, failing that ill have to strip them both down just a pain in the a**e pulling it in and out the garage at the moment due to it being such a tight squeeze through the doors.
Steve206 wrote:
Do the mirrors still move about, ie angle? Wouldn't have thought both would fail together?
yeah i can still move the glass its just folding that doesnt work.
think what steve meant is do the mirrors still fold in if you push them by hand..ie are they the mirrors off the 180 and not normal gti gloss mirrors thats been swapped over
#12: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:04 am ---- well my mate said this because they dont have carbon caps on but he pushed them a bit and they didnt feel like they were going to budge. we didnt want to damage the motors if they are actually 180 mirrors.
#13: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: Ghosty, Location: WiltshirePosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:58 am ---- i think you should still be able to fold them by hand as if someone brushes against them, they have to be able to move without breaking, other wise you would have to replace them every time someone knocked them, ill see if i can get a part number off mine, that way you can compare.
if you send me the last 8 numbers from your chassis number (located in the v5c) i can check servicbox for you.
#14: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:19 am ---- Dont folding mirrors have different wiring? Could check that if so to see if they are folding ones.
#15: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:41 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Steve206 wrote:
Do the mirrors still move about, ie angle? Wouldn't have thought both would fail together?
I think you underestimate how s**t those mirrors are, I had to replace 3 in 2 years on my 180.
Mine have been fine since I repaired them
Cheap spares or complete mirrors are hard to find, they normaly go for silly money. ive got enough bits for a couple more rebuilds if needed.
Involves removing plenty of torx 20 screws & a drill for the poxy rivets
Wish I had managed to get them apart...would have saved me £400ish
#19: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:49 am ---- Getting them apart is the easy bit, its getting them back together thats more of a challenge
Never did find a supplier of the special rivets used so long counter sunk self tapping screws to the rescue.
Secret is - pack the folding motor & gearbox unit full of Vaseline to stop it rusting up again in the future.
Getting them apart is the easy bit, its getting them back together thats more of a challenge
Never did find a supplier of the special rivets used so long counter sunk self tapping screws to the rescue.
Secret is - pack the folding motor & gearbox unit full of Vaseline to stop it rusting up again in the future.
Ill remember this IF there is a next time, fortunately the Lexus doesn't have such problems
#21: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:55 am ---- Same folding unit is used in a lot of mirrors, there's only a couple of component manufacturers suppling them to all the car manufacturers.
Same folding unit is used in a lot of mirrors, there's only a couple of component manufacturers suppling them to all the car manufacturers.
I presume they are made by Valeo like everything else on pugs
No idea who makes them but the folding mirrors on mine are made by Magneti Marelli.
same company on my GTi mirrors, i think thats the manaafacturer of all mirrors lol
#25: Re: folding mirrors wont fold!! Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:17 am ---- Magneti Marelli on European-make cars .. Lexus is liable to use a Jap company for it's electronics .. probably better quality too!
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just a pain in the a**e pulling it in and out the garage at the moment due to it being such a tight squeeze through the doors.
