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#1: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:42 pm
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Hi, my lads petrol 1.4 (51 plate) has tonight decided that it wants to play up. It running incredibly lumpy and "grabbing" as though it's struggling to get air. The engine management light is flashing also. I got it home, lifted the bonnet and the exhaust from the manifold was glowing orange!.
Any thoughts/advice/ideas would be grateful
Thanks, Dave.

#2: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Timon2210, Location: Palestine PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:56 pm
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you can say Bye Bye to your car Catalyst converter,it's clogged,which makes the air flow very poor,and the engine is suffering to breath,so decat it,or get a new one from scrappy,because the brand new one will cost you an arm and leg Sad

#3: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: broadblaster, Location: south coast PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:59 pm
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if it is the cat gone its not that bad 60 quid www.cats2u.co.uk/produ...s_id=30890

#4: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:01 pm
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Thanks for the speedy reply Timon2210. How easy is it to de-cat? Anything special required?

#5: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:01 pm
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Thanks for the speedy reply Timon2210. How easy is it to de-cat? Anything special required?


Sorry pressed submit twice!

Thanks Broadblaster, I'll be having a look under the car tomorrow and see whats what. I may go for the de-cat option tho.

Last edited by dmcwe on Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:07 pm; edited 1 time in total

#6: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: broadblaster, Location: south coast PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:04 pm
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just a decat pipe needed but fail on the next mot i would just get a new one and have done with it.

#7: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:09 pm
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broadblaster wrote:
just a decat pipe needed but fail on the next mot i would just get a new one and have done with it.

Ok, looks like a new cat then!

Thanks again, Dave

#8: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Timon2210, Location: Palestine PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:26 pm
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dmcwe wrote:
Thanks for the speedy reply Timon2210. How easy is it to de-cat? Anything special required?

you are most welcome,well it's very easy to de-cat,just a straight pipe instead of the CAT,but as he said,it's illegal Wink

#9: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:51 pm
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I had a quick look underneath this morning, I was intending to remove the front part of the exhaust but it requires a deep socket to get the bolts off...I don't have any so it's going to have to wait till after the bank holiday, Sad
Thanks again, Dave.

#10: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:23 pm
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broadblaster wrote:
if it is the cat gone its not that bad 60 quid www.cats2u.co.uk/produ...s_id=30890

£60 for a CAT? aye f*** off, it'll last about as long as me if I was in bed with Jessica Alba and Tulisa!

#11: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: broadblaster, Location: south coast PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:27 pm
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Lee wrote:
broadblaster wrote:
if it is the cat gone its not that bad 60 quid www.cats2u.co.uk/produ...s_id=30890

£60 for a CAT? aye f*** off, it'll last about as long as me if I was in bed with Jessica Alba and Tulisa!

Laughing Laughing Laughing did'not say it was a top quality one now did i Wink

#12: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:41 am
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Well, I changed the cat today and it's still a bag of crap!. Running like s**t. Any other ideas? Coil pack? Is there any reason why that should make the cat get to meltin point?

#13: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Timon2210, Location: Palestine PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:54 pm
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try to run the car with no CAT,to see how things goes?,and did you got a new CAT for 60£,or a second hand one from scrappy!

#14: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:44 pm
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New cat £90. I'm thinking coil pack. If all the fuel isn't being burnt (plugs look sooty) and the cat is hot then the fuel is being burnt in the cat..hence nice glowing cat!. .??

#15: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:49 pm
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so you didn't get the code read?

#16: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:53 pm
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Nope!

#17: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam........... PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:07 pm
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Lee wrote:
broadblaster wrote:
if it is the cat gone its not that bad 60 quid www.cats2u.co.uk/produ...s_id=30890

£60 for a CAT? aye f*** off, it'll last about as long as me if I was in bed with Jessica Alba and Tulisa!

So it will break before you've even stripped the car. Laughing

P.S. Lee. Tulisa. Really? Haven't you seen the video? Rolling Eyes

#18: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:26 pm
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Ash wrote:
Lee wrote:
broadblaster wrote:
if it is the cat gone its not that bad 60 quid www.cats2u.co.uk/produ...s_id=30890

£60 for a CAT? aye f*** off, it'll last about as long as me if I was in bed with Jessica Alba and Tulisa!

So it will break before you've even stripped the car. Laughing

P.S. Lee. Tulisa. Really? Haven't you seen the video? Rolling Eyes

I've seen it ....I'd rather watch the news!
Anyway, any thoughts on the coil pack?

#19: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:57 pm
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Ash wrote:
Lee wrote:
broadblaster wrote:
if it is the cat gone its not that bad 60 quid www.cats2u.co.uk/produ...s_id=30890

£60 for a CAT? aye f*** off, it'll last about as long as me if I was in bed with Jessica Alba and Tulisa!

So it will break before you've even stripped the car. Laughing

P.S. Lee. Tulisa. Really? Haven't you seen the video? Rolling Eyes

Yeah I've seen it. But doesn't change the fact that I think she's amazing lol

#20: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:02 pm
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ideally you need to get the code read otherwise you will have to isolate the problem stepwise....

randomly replacing parts isn't the best practise.

cat glowing red/ overheating indicate high work load on the cat.

could be misfire or running rich.

that means coilpack, injectors, spark plug, O2 sensor or even MAP sensor could play a roll.....

even if the timing belt jump a tooth would cause misfiring.....

you really need to get the code read to narrow down the choices...

#21: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:05 pm
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Lee wrote:
Ash wrote:
Lee wrote:
broadblaster wrote:
if it is the cat gone its not that bad 60 quid www.cats2u.co.uk/produ...s_id=30890

£60 for a CAT? aye f*** off, it'll last about as long as me if I was in bed with Jessica Alba and Tulisa!

So it will break before you've even stripped the car. Laughing

P.S. Lee. Tulisa. Really? Haven't you seen the video? Rolling Eyes

Yeah I've seen it. But doesn't change the fact that I think she's amazing lol

this?

 
Laughing Laughing

#22: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:10 pm
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Seabook wrote:
Lee wrote:
Ash wrote:
Lee wrote:
broadblaster wrote:
if it is the cat gone its not that bad 60 quid www.cats2u.co.uk/produ...s_id=30890

£60 for a CAT? aye f*** off, it'll last about as long as me if I was in bed with Jessica Alba and Tulisa!

So it will break before you've even stripped the car. Laughing

P.S. Lee. Tulisa. Really? Haven't you seen the video? Rolling Eyes

Yeah I've seen it. But doesn't change the fact that I think she's amazing lol

whe, whe, where was I , car, I can't think straight......I'll be back tomorrow!

this?

 
Laughing Laughing

#23: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: LeeThr, Location: North West Wales PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:05 pm
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I had this on my 1.4 a few months back, no power, eml flashing, cat was glowing. stank of fuel, turned out to be the coil pack had packed up.
Cat glowing shows unburnt fuel detonating in the cat causing it to get even hotter than usual.

#24: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:51 am
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Thanks Lee, that's what I'm thinking. Did you get any fault codes? There's nothing showing on the display say any fault code that's why I'm reluctant to get it read. I do appreciate the input from sea book tho.

#25: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:02 am
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Seabook wrote:

randomly replacing parts isn't the best practise.

Works for people / garages that havent got a clue Wink

As its a TU lump then the coolant temp sensor which is a know weakness would be the first place I would look.

#26: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Seabook PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:17 pm
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MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:

randomly replacing parts isn't the best practise.

Works for people / garages that havent got a clue Wink

As its a TU lump then the coolant temp sensor which is a know weakness would be the first place I would look.

should be able to spot that if you get the live data reading? Laughing

#27: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:36 pm
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#28: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: dmcwe, Location: under the car PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:45 am
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LeeThr wrote:
I had this on my 1.4 a few months back, no power, eml flashing, cat was glowing. stank of fuel, turned out to be the coil pack had packed up.
Cat glowing shows unburnt fuel detonating in the cat causing it to get even hotter than usual.


Changed the coil pack and whoo hoo, success!
Thanks everyone.

#29: Re: Engine problem, cat glowing orange hot! Author: Timon2210, Location: Palestine PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:45 pm
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dmcwe wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
I had this on my 1.4 a few months back, no power, eml flashing, cat was glowing. stank of fuel, turned out to be the coil pack had packed up.
Cat glowing shows unburnt fuel detonating in the cat causing it to get even hotter than usual.


Changed the coil pack and whoo hoo, success!
Thanks everyone.

glad you sorted it out Very Happy



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