#1: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: pazza, Location: west midsPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:47 pm ---- just wondered how fast are the 180's compared to the normal gti ??? as im considering getting a 180? thanks
#2: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:50 pm ---- Gti is roughly 120+ bhp, 180 is 160+bhp, The rest is up to the driver.
#3: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: pazza, Location: west midsPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:52 pm ---- ok thanks ive already got the normal gti but fancy gettin the 180 would you recomend it?
#4: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:53 pm ---- Personal opinion, no. As the money you have to fork out extra for a 180 is not worth in my opinion
But with the 180 there is less chance of a chav getting its mits on one, due to the high insurance premiums
#5: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:54 pm ----
pazza wrote:
ok thanks ive already got the normal gti but fancy gettin the 180 would you recomend it?
Having owned a lot of car's over the years it is by far not the best I have driven, However I like 206,s and for the money the go for nowadays you will struggle to to do better.
#6: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: pazza, Location: west midsPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:56 pm ---- well i got my gti cheap only paid 650 for a 51 plate thats why i was askin if its worth the upgrade
#7: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:59 pm ----
pazza wrote:
well i got my gti cheap only paid 650 for a 51 plate thats why i was askin if its worth the upgrade
180's are going for less than 2k atm, Its if you can afford the insurance and running costs.
#8: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: pazza, Location: west midsPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:00 pm ---- is there much difference in the insurance then?
#9: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: marc206, Location: Bourne, LincsPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:10 pm ----
pazza wrote:
is there much difference in the insurance then?
get a quote as every insurance company is different
#10: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: pazza, Location: west midsPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:12 pm ---- yh very true lol
#11: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:15 pm ----
pazza wrote:
ok thanks ive already got the normal gti but fancy gettin the 180 would you recomend it?
For the money they're hard to beat, & definetly a step up from the 138.
A lot of people on this forum slag the 180 off out of habit, but the cars suggested as better tend to be dearer or FUGLY..... or both.
#12: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Matt, Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:23 pm ---- For the money you can get them these days, they are worth every penny IMO. Compared to other cars in the same catagory, they are way out in front in every aspect (price, power, spec etc)
#13: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: pazza, Location: west midsPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:26 pm ---- cheers lads for the info think i better start lookin around for a 180!!!!
#14: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: L5_UKS, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:46 pm ---- As above for the money you cant beat it. I was going to sell mine but think Im going to keep hold of it for a bit longer as it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it
#15: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: jayz206gti, Location: TamworthPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:00 pm ---- If you want a 180 dont look past mine as i have just put it up for sale. Beware the sub 2k offerings on ebay as they are that cheap for a reason.
#16: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: 138Andy, Location: NottsPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:37 pm ---- stick with the standard GTi and spend your 2k on a jenvey throttle body kit (£1,129.00)
#17: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:27 am ----
138Andy wrote:
stick with the standard GTi and spend your 2k on a jenvey throttle body kit (£1,129.00)
But then it will be fast but still wont handle or brake or have the nice interior like the 180 lol
#18: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:45 am ---- But then upgrade the 138 suspension and you end up with a car handling better than a 180. THis is why to modify it makes sense to buy a 138 but to keep standard get the 180.
#19: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:26 am ----
Edward wrote:
But then upgrade the 138 suspension and you end up with a car handling better than a 180. THis is why to modify it makes sense to buy a 138 but to keep standard get the 180.
But you'd still need to upgrade the brakes, & sort the wheels & tyres, & the interior to match the spec of a 180. By then it's probably cost more than a 180 & will still only be a 138. You've also turned it into a money pit unless you plan to keep it forever.
#20: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:52 am ---- Wheels and tyres? The 16" wheels on the 138 are better than the 180 wheels.
#21: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:35 am ----
Edward wrote:
Wheels and tyres? The 16" wheels on the 138 are better than the 180 wheels.
Better for what? & by how much? Because I don't see many people selling their 180 wheels for 138's....
Ultimate performance & fractions of a difference isn't the only criteria for a road car.
#22: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Parkerspug, Location: PlymouthPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:53 pm ---- I went from the 206 xsi to the 180 and it was so worth the upgrade makes me smile every time i go out!
im 28 and insurance for the fully comp is £900 ish with only 1 years no clains so in my eyes its not to bad!
As jay said tho you have to find a nice one!! Looking at 3000 ish in my opinon.
#23: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: crocdino, Location: LeedsPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:50 am ---- All personal opinion but I think the 180 looks super-chavvy! I wouldn't have one given.. The 138 goes nicely under the radar which is perfect for us for a runabout.. Although I'd love the 180's interior!
#24: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: crocdino, Location: LeedsPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:59 am ---- Infact scrap that, I'd have a 180 if it looked just like the 138 on the outside..
Wheels, spoiler, exhaust all awful.
#25: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:35 am ---- Cant stand the 180 interior.
Only things really worth having on the 180 are the curtain airbags & ESP which are both fitted as standard on the later GTI 138 anyway.
The rest of the GTI 180 tat & trinkets are easily bolted on to any 206 if you really want to.
#26: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: james180, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:48 am ----
pazza wrote:
just wondered how fast are the 180's compared to the normal gti ??? as im considering getting a 180? thanks
I will be selling my 180 soon,black,54 plate with 31k miles.
Its too small for me really plus i want rwd and a turbo again so its going.
PM me if you want any more info or pics.
#27: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:37 am ----
crocdino wrote:
Infact scrap that, I'd have a 180 if it looked just like the 138 on the outside..
Wheels, spoiler, exhaust all awful.
& owning a GTI 138 & a Clio 197 Cup your not biased at all.
#28: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: anton1989, Location: west midlandsPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:24 am ----
-Dave- wrote:
pazza wrote:
well i got my gti cheap only paid 650 for a 51 plate thats why i was askin if its worth the upgrade
180's are going for less than 2k atm, Its if you can afford the insurance and running costs.
don't think you will find a good180 for 2k that does not need money spent on it and that has been looked after.
not a huge fan of the 180 but i wouldn't tell someone not to buy one, if i could afford to run one, got one for a very good price with no issues i would have one i guess but it's not likely.
#29: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: crocdino, Location: LeedsPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:15 pm ----
E5GDM wrote:
crocdino wrote:
Infact scrap that, I'd have a 180 if it looked just like the 138 on the outside..
Wheels, spoiler, exhaust all awful.
& owning a GTI 138 & a Clio 197 Cup your not biased at all.
It's all just my opinion matey..
If everyone likes the same thing it'd be a boring place.
#30: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:36 pm ----
138Andy wrote:
stick with the standard GTi and spend your 2k on a jenvey throttle body kit (£1,129.00)
What will you do the with the kit? You'll need it fitted/ecu/engine loom/mapped/inlet matched add anouther 1.5k to that and you'll be some were close
#31: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Andy180, Location: Stoke on TrentPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:58 pm ---- Pointless asking if the 180 is any good on this forum the majority of people on here just rip it to bits .
#32: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:06 pm ---- If the 180s were at the price they are at now 4.5 years ago I would of had one. I paid 3k for my 138 and it had 48,000 on the clock 1 owner From new,you can get a decent 180 for around 2k nower days.
#33: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:58 pm ----
Andy180 wrote:
Pointless asking if the 180 is any good on this forum the majority of people on here just rip it to bits .
Plenty of anti 180 threads on this forum, most from people that have never actually had one.
#34: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: furryhobnob, Location: NuneatonPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:34 am ---- Is this the same pazza I used to play online with on pgr4 a few years back?? Frankie
#35: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:11 am ----
Edward wrote:
But then upgrade the 138 suspension and you end up with a car handling better than a 180. THis is why to modify it makes sense to buy a 138 but to keep standard get the 180.
This makes sense.
I guess it depends on how much cash you want to throw at it.
I 180 is a very good all round car out of the box and IMO the normal GTi needs work.
#36: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:02 am ---- I do love the GTi180 interior, but when you look at the true power figures, thats where it's fall down is, when you consider it's competition.
Fiesta ST - 150bhp (the old one, because the new version is only 120 lol)
Clio 172/182 - 172-182
Corsa VXR - 189-202
Admittedly these are "quoted" figures, as well all know numbers on paper are nothing like actual "on the road numbers e.g. a GTi180 doesn't have 180bhp.
Having said that, power aside, I still would never buy an ST, the suspension is just too stiff
IMO, it comes to down personal preference, yeah I love my 206, especially now it's running 130bhp, but is the power worth the "french-ness" of the car e.g. shoddy wiring lol
#37: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:15 am ----
Jay794 wrote:
I do love the GTi180 interior, but when you look at the true power figures, thats where it's fall down is, when you consider it's competition.
Fiesta ST - 150bhp (the old one, because the new version is only 120 lol)
Clio 172/182 - 172-182
Corsa VXR - 189-202
Admittedly these are "quoted" figures, as well all know numbers on paper are nothing like actual "on the road numbers e.g. a GTi180 doesn't have 180bhp.
Having said that, power aside, I still would never buy an ST, the suspension is just too stiff
IMO, it comes to down personal preference, yeah I love my 206, especially now it's running 130bhp, but is the power worth the "french-ness" of the car e.g. shoddy wiring lol
the 172 & 182 etc make less power too Also there's only the 172's and s**t 182's that are in the same price range as the 180's.
The gearing in the 180 also makes it a faster car than the ST despite only around 10bhp difference.
Personally in the price range I think its the best all round car you can buy.
#38: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: martinius88, Location: Rushden, NorthantsPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:17 am ---- Is it only a GTi 180 you're looking at? or would you look at other cars in general? there's a lot out there, that in my opinion is better (not slating a 180 I always wanted one when I had the GTi) but having moved away from Pug to a VAG car for less money than you could get a 180 and in pretty much perfect condition and with lowish mileage for age, I wouldn't ever look back.
#39: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:25 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
the 172 & 182 etc make less power too Also there's only the 172's and s**t 182's that are in the same price range as the 180's.
The gearing in the 180 also makes it a faster car than the ST despite only around 10bhp difference.
Personally in the price range I think its the best all round car you can buy.
The ST is extremely overpriced considering it's power output, and like I said, I wouldn't ever buy an ST anyways.
I would rather have a 180 regardless of the power output, compared to any of the others I listed.
But TBH, I'd rather have a CRX or NSX than a 206 lol. retro ftw!
#40: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:28 am ----
Jay794 wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
the 172 & 182 etc make less power too Also there's only the 172's and s**t 182's that are in the same price range as the 180's.
The gearing in the 180 also makes it a faster car than the ST despite only around 10bhp difference.
Personally in the price range I think its the best all round car you can buy.
The ST is extremely overpriced considering it's power output, and like I said, I wouldn't ever buy an ST anyways.
I would rather have a 180 regardless of the power output, compared to any of the others I listed.
But TBH, I'd rather have a CRX or NSX than a 206 lol. retro ftw!
Oh well if its like that id rather have a GT3 RS 4.0
#41: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:45 am ---- Least mine is affordable/comparable to a 180GTi rich lol
#42: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:47 am ----
Jay794 wrote:
Least mine is affordable/comparable to a 180GTi rich lol
NSX??? Hardle affodable/comparable to a 180 dude lol
EDIT: Although not 200 grand like the GT3 lol
#43: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:56 am ---- The 180 ace and will pass everything apart from a petrol station.
The gearbox however is made of chocolate!
#44: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:58 am ----
nellyhaggis wrote:
The 180 ace and will pass everything apart from a petrol station. The gearbox however is made of chocolate!
I think thats a flaw in most french cars
#45: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:18 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Jay794 wrote:
Least mine is affordable/comparable to a 180GTi rich lol
NSX??? Hardle affodable/comparable to a 180 dude lol
EDIT: Although not 200 grand like the GT3 lol
Ok maybe not an NSX, but a CRX is
#46: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: JamieM, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:12 am ----
Andy180 wrote:
Pointless asking if the 180 is any good on this forum the majority of people on here just rip it to bits .
There's no point posting anywhere about it. Everyone thinks they're s**t. Only owners tend to disagree.
I put it down to the reviews from select respected magazines, most people are like sheep and need to be herded. I bet you if the likes of EVO had of said, finally the 206 has been made in to what it should have always been. Everyone wouldn't dismiss them as they do, they're often compared to the 172's/182's and there really isn't much in it sure the RS might be a little quicker around a twisty circuit but not by as much as people would think after what you read.
I recently started a thread on Saxperience for fun asking what peoples favourite French hot hatch is... Idea was to state your favourite and post up information about it and maybe a brief paragraph, as I've owned two and like them mine happens to be, for the money sub 4k *as I'd never spend big money on a performance French hatch* the 206 GTi180.
Straight away, my choice was blasted. " The 206 GTI is the worst GTI ever produced, some say its a poor excuse for a GTI lol"
I know most of these people haven't even driven one and it really gripes me when people just post on a subject when they are talking bulls**t. Most of the posters who posted are well known posters, the class clowns I like to think of them as they post all day about bulls**t and earn big eReps, now when they post on a subject like so all the little'lens believe what they're saying and even if people don't agree they won't question them.
It's only the internet so I thought fuckit I know these people are just posting for postings sake and questioned it and they all turn on me hahaha.
They didn't like me defending my choice that I've owned and experienced, also 2 of my close friends had 182's so I know there is naff all in it really.
Luckily I don't have my 180 because I care about what everyone else likes, it's also not the first time I've been called a GTi180 fan boy for defending them. I'm not a fan boy there are a million other cars I'd sooner own, I just don't see why people hate on them sooo much!
#47: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:48 am ---- ....you posted on Saxperience and expected an intelligent reponse? First mistake!
#48: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:01 am ----
Jay794 wrote:
....you posted on Saxperience and expected an intelligent reponse? First mistake!
To be fair Jay its nearly as bad on here now days.
#49: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:05 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Jay794 wrote:
....you posted on Saxperience and expected an intelligent reponse? First mistake!
To be fair Jay its nearly as bad on here now days.
Hi babes.
#50: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:15 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Jay794 wrote:
....you posted on Saxperience and expected an intelligent reponse? First mistake!
To be fair Jay its nearly as bad on here now days.
Hi babes.
you Tom
#51: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:30 am ---- Shurrup Rich
#52: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:37 am ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
Shurrup Rich
Get out, you have no business here!
#53: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: JamieM, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:26 am ---- If I could ever be asked I'd love to see a 206 GTi /180 VS Clio RS track day (obviously limited to 172/182/197's)
Although it would be up in the air, I.e. different track exp ect ect it would be good for people to see that the 206 GTI/180 isn't as s**te as made out.
A bit long.com though lol.
#54: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: rttam, Location: devonPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:18 am ----
JamieM wrote:
Andy180 wrote:
Pointless asking if the 180 is any good on this forum the majority of people on here just rip it to bits .
There's no point posting anywhere about it. Everyone thinks they're s**t. Only owners tend to disagree.
I put it down to the reviews from select respected magazines, most people are like sheep and need to be herded. I bet you if the likes of EVO had of said, finally the 206 has been made in to what it should have always been. Everyone wouldn't dismiss them as they do, they're often compared to the 172's/182's and there really isn't much in it sure the RS might be a little quicker around a twisty circuit but not by as much as people would think after what you read.
I recently started a thread on Saxperience for fun asking what peoples favourite French hot hatch is... Idea was to state your favourite and post up information about it and maybe a brief paragraph, as I've owned two and like them mine happens to be, for the money sub 4k *as I'd never spend big money on a performance French hatch* the 206 GTi180.
Straight away, my choice was blasted. " The 206 GTI is the worst GTI ever produced, some say its a poor excuse for a GTI lol"
I know most of these people haven't even driven one and it really gripes me when people just post on a subject when they are talking bulls**t. Most of the posters who posted are well known posters, the class clowns I like to think of them as they post all day about bulls**t and earn big eReps, now when they post on a subject like so all the little'lens believe what they're saying and even if people don't agree they won't question them.
It's only the internet so I thought fuckit I know these people are just posting for postings sake and questioned it and they all turn on me hahaha.
They didn't like me defending my choice that I've owned and experienced, also 2 of my close friends had 182's so I know there is naff all in it really.
Luckily I don't have my 180 because I care about what everyone else likes, it's also not the first time I've been called a GTi180 fan boy for defending them. I'm not a fan boy there are a million other cars I'd sooner own, I just don't see why people hate on them sooo much!
seems these threads pop up nearly every week now getting sick of readingthem. if people who have never driven let alone owned a 180 want to slag them off then you crack on.
i bought my 180 when it was virtually brand new at the time i also drove a clio 182 and a fiesta st and prefer the spec and everyday drivability the 180 has (i.e. virtually everything is an extra on the 182/st where as all the goodies are standrard spec on the 180). to me the overall power isnt the only thing that matters on a car its how pleasing it is to live with it on an everyday basis.
i 've had my 180 5 years and done over 55k behind the wheel. iv loved every second of it and i cant fault the car what so ever. its been reliable, fun and fairly decent on fuel for what it is and i have no plans to sell anytime soon unless i really have to.
at the prices good 180's are going for now id say they are a cracking car for the money and would reccomend it to anyone
#55: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:35 am ----
#56: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:20 pm ---- Iv only had my 180 on the road since the 6th of June and I tell you what I've done some bloody millage already and it's brilliant, always puts a smile on my face when an 18 year old in some little corsa thinks your in a 1.1 or something and try's to pull away then you just take them on the first "safe" bend they always seem to look angry.... No idea why haha
#57: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: james180, Location: NottinghamPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:46 pm ---- I've had my 180 for a few months and it doesn't put a smile on my face. It's too slow and under steers too much. I won't be keeping it very long.
#58: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: shell-vt, Location: durhamPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:49 pm ---- 70 on a motor way 30 to 40 in built up ereas .. track as much as it,ll go
#59: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: crocdino, Location: LeedsPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:49 pm ----
JamieM wrote:
If I could ever be asked I'd love to see a 206 GTi /180 VS Clio RS track day (obviously limited to 172/182/197's)
Although it would be up in the air, I.e. different track exp ect ect it would be good for people to see that the 206 GTI/180 isn't as s**te as made out.
A bit long.com though lol.
My 206 138 isn't even remotely close to my 197 Cup.. In a straight line it would put a lot of distance between them, on the brakes it would hammer it (4 pot Brembos standard) but more so round the corners, well, I can't even describe tbh! The 206 isn't even on the same page it would have absolutely zero chance of gettin close! Get out of the Clio and into the 206 and it feels like it'll roll over in a corner..
Still, I quite like driving the 206.. It's just a bit crap!
#60: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: JamieM, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:36 pm ----
crocdino wrote:
JamieM wrote:
If I could ever be asked I'd love to see a 206 GTi /180 VS Clio RS track day (obviously limited to 172/182/197's)
Although it would be up in the air, I.e. different track exp ect ect it would be good for people to see that the 206 GTI/180 isn't as s**te as made out.
A bit long.com though lol.
My 206 138 isn't even remotely close to my 197 Cup.. In a straight line it would put a lot of distance between them, on the brakes it would hammer it (4 pot Brembos standard) but more so round the corners, well, I can't even describe tbh! The 206 isn't even on the same page it would have absolutely zero chance of gettin close! Get out of the Clio and into the 206 and it feels like it'll roll over in a corner..
Still, I quite like driving the 206.. It's just a bit crap!
It wouldn't be it's like 60+ bhp difference on name figures ie 138 & 197, and say 138's make 120+ and 197's make 170+ it's still 50bhp.
Put my old 300bhp Focus ST against another 250bhp ST and the 300 would leave it for dead...
197 - 180 Very close on straights, the 197's are quite wide compared so should be better. 172/182's very similar from what I've seen.
#61: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:41 pm ---- aren't people bored about this?
#62: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:44 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
aren't people bored about this?
Lol 1 every week nower days it's as fast as the speed limet
#63: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:22 pm ----
JamieM wrote:
crocdino wrote:
JamieM wrote:
If I could ever be asked I'd love to see a 206 GTi /180 VS Clio RS track day (obviously limited to 172/182/197's)
Although it would be up in the air, I.e. different track exp ect ect it would be good for people to see that the 206 GTI/180 isn't as s**te as made out.
A bit long.com though lol.
My 206 138 isn't even remotely close to my 197 Cup.. In a straight line it would put a lot of distance between them, on the brakes it would hammer it (4 pot Brembos standard) but more so round the corners, well, I can't even describe tbh! The 206 isn't even on the same page it would have absolutely zero chance of gettin close! Get out of the Clio and into the 206 and it feels like it'll roll over in a corner..
Still, I quite like driving the 206.. It's just a bit crap!
It wouldn't be it's like 60+ bhp difference on name figures ie 138 & 197, and say 138's make 120+ and 197's make 170+ it's still 50bhp.
Put my old 300bhp Focus ST against another 250bhp ST and the 300 would leave it for dead...
197 - 180 Very close on straights, the 197's are quite wide compared so should be better. 172/182's very similar from what I've seen.
Also the 197 does have bespoke suspension which gives it the edge over others.
If I keep the 197 I'll happily set up a track day with a 180 owner and we can battle it out
#64: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:32 pm ---- Who f*****g cares?
#65: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: jayz206gti, Location: TamworthPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:39 pm ---- Why is the 180 being compared to a 197 which is about 4 times the price and around 5 years more advanced? Ofcource the 197 will be a better car! Bored to death of this forum lately.
#66: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: crocdino, Location: LeedsPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:23 pm ----
JamieM wrote:
crocdino wrote:
JamieM wrote:
If I could ever be asked I'd love to see a 206 GTi /180 VS Clio RS track day (obviously limited to 172/182/197's)
Although it would be up in the air, I.e. different track exp ect ect it would be good for people to see that the 206 GTI/180 isn't as s**te as made out.
A bit long.com though lol.
My 206 138 isn't even remotely close to my 197 Cup.. In a straight line it would put a lot of distance between them, on the brakes it would hammer it (4 pot Brembos standard) but more so round the corners, well, I can't even describe tbh! The 206 isn't even on the same page it would have absolutely zero chance of gettin close! Get out of the Clio and into the 206 and it feels like it'll roll over in a corner..
Still, I quite like driving the 206.. It's just a bit crap!
It wouldn't be it's like 60+ bhp difference on name figures ie 138 & 197, and say 138's make 120+ and 197's make 170+ it's still 50bhp.
Put my old 300bhp Focus ST against another 250bhp ST and the 300 would leave it for dead...
197 - 180 Very close on straights, the 197's are quite wide compared so should be better. 172/182's very similar from what I've seen.
The last thing the 197 is about is straight line speed, they seem to make a genuine 180.. So not great.
Not sure your point regarding the Focus, my old 300hp Saab had 390lbft and would leave most things dead including one or two tuned ST's! Never mind the XK8 4.2s and a standard 335d!
Infact I doubt my 197 is any quicker than my old 172 Cup! But even that was better in the bends than the 206! The 197 is literally like a track car (with the cup suspension) its too good, really.. Even the 200 is softer!!
#67: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:06 am ----
james180 wrote:
I've had my 180 for a few months and it doesn't put a smile on my face. It's too slow and under steers too much. I won't be keeping it very long.
Do you never hit over 5k revs ?? Haha I think they're quick, not stupidly fast but for the money they are quick but you have to rev them to get the power as you'll know obviously, and as for under steering mine goes where you point it so I can't fault that
#68: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Mikey2uk, Location: StevenagePosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:03 pm ---- Please keep it on topic...
#69: Re: how fast ar gti 180's? Author: Jammie_1989, Location: ManchesterPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:44 pm ----
JamieM wrote:
crocdino wrote:
JamieM wrote:
If I could ever be asked I'd love to see a 206 GTi /180 VS Clio RS track day (obviously limited to 172/182/197's)
Although it would be up in the air, I.e. different track exp ect ect it would be good for people to see that the 206 GTI/180 isn't as s**te as made out.
A bit long.com though lol.
My 206 138 isn't even remotely close to my 197 Cup.. In a straight line it would put a lot of distance between them, on the brakes it would hammer it (4 pot Brembos standard) but more so round the corners, well, I can't even describe tbh! The 206 isn't even on the same page it would have absolutely zero chance of gettin close! Get out of the Clio and into the 206 and it feels like it'll roll over in a corner..
Still, I quite like driving the 206.. It's just a bit crap!
It wouldn't be it's like 60+ bhp difference on name figures ie 138 & 197, and say 138's make 120+ and 197's make 170+ it's still 50bhp.
Put my old 300bhp Focus ST against another 250bhp ST and the 300 would leave it for dead...
197 - 180 Very close on straights, the 197's are quite wide compared so should be better. 172/182's very similar from what I've seen.
Disagree with this 300bhp ST bs a 250bhp ST I had a 1.9 diesel astra mapped at around 200bhp and my mate has a Focus RS and it could leave me for dead over a 5-6 mile run. Even on the straights it couldn't get that far ahead. Having said that though it was as fast as a 260bhp berg astra so many I just had a good one lol
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and spend your 2k on a jenvey throttle body kit (£1,129.00)
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Also there's only the 172's and s**t 182's that are in the same price range as the 180's.
