#1: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: JordGJ, Location: Leeds / West MidlandsPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:11 am ---- Right bare with me... Basically, I've been planning to get some 10mm spacers to get the rear wheels sitting with a bit of poke, so to check how much clearance I had I went out to do a bit of measuring...
Here comes the problem, on the drivers side of the car both wheels sit flush with the arches but on the passenger side they are sitting about 5/10mm inside the arches. People will say I'm being picky but when you're going for the stance and fitment I am its quite important. At first I though two wheels may be a lower offset than the others and I'd put them on the wrong corners, so I took the wheels off to compare, and no, they are all the same offset.
Right so with the wheels off I measured the distances from the hubs to the front and back of the arches, and as I feared on the drivers side the hubs sit slightly further out, as I say only about 10mm but enough to be noticeable with my wheels.
We had the car fully checked before I bought it so It hasn't had a bump as far as we know, I know messing with the suspension as much as I have could have had an effect but I didn't know it could cause this, can it?
I've corrected the front by adjusting the arches slightly to level them up but can't really do anything about the rear, what could it be? sorry for the long post didn't know how to be any more brief.
Jord
#2: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:14 am ---- Couldnt you just use differnt sized spacers to offset the outher side? I.e 5mm one side and 15mm the other so they look level?
#3: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:15 am ---- put bigger spacer on one side?
#4: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: JordGJ, Location: Leeds / West MidlandsPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:18 am ---- yeah thats what Im gonna do I think but was wondering why this is the case? what could cause it? maybe lowering torsion bar and arm being knocked out to far or not gone back in enough or something?
#5: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:56 am ---- Sure the bearings on the rear axle haven't started to go?
#6: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: puggy206, Location: scunthorpePosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:41 am ---- I could be wrong in thinking this but I got told that having your wheels/tyres sticking out of the arches was illegal. Now I may be wrong so don't stick by my words
I could be wrong in thinking this but I got told that having your wheels/tyres sticking out of the arches was illegal. Now I may be wrong so don't stick by my words
.....comes the problem, on the drivers side of the car both wheels sit flush with the arches but on the passenger side they are sitting about 5/10mm inside the arches.
I could be wrong in thinking this but I got told that having your wheels/tyres sticking out of the arches was illegal. Now I may be wrong so don't stick by my words
Bit of a grey one here as protruding wheels aren't an MOT failure but according to construction and use they should housed within the limits of spray suppression devices. Not got the book in front of me, but I'm fairly sure that you can have 20-30mm sticking out. The problem comes if there may be a possibility of them causing injury to other road users in which case the vehicle could be removed from the road immediately if the wheels can't be changed at the roadside.
I'll have a proper look in the books later and see if there is a definitive answer.
Edit. Had the books out and made a few phone calls and the best we can come up with is there is no limit to the amount of wheel that is outside the wheel arch as long as the wheel and tyre doesn't foul any bodywork or mechanical fixtures whilst on full lock, but all the tread must be within the wheel arch (including arch extensions eg Landrover Defender).
In simple terms if you stand directly over the wheel and look downwards and see any tread then it's illegal. If you only see the wheel rim and/or the tyre sidewall, then it's legal.
#9: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:00 pm ---- Would a laser alignment test show if the rear is out of aligned
PLUS you can have poke along as there no tread showing can't ya
#10: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:05 pm ---- I always thought that NON of the wheel is aloud to Patrude from the arch? hence also why people put arch extensions on to give them the extra coverage. My mate got pulled in his golf coupple weeks back for having 'poke' and was told to change the wheels within 7days and report to the police station to prove that he had changed them.
#11: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:10 pm ---- Like said as long as the tyres are in the arch it's an MOT pass, so I find it weird if the law contradicts that
#12: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: JordGJ, Location: Leeds / West MidlandsPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:21 pm ---- That's all great but I already knew that it was legal as long as the tread was inside the arch and it didn't foul any bodywork etc, was more after suggestions as to why the track would be slighter wider on one side of the car than the other?
Wrong forum for talking about stance I suppose, unless its dropped "35/40mm" on nimrods and "safe" tyres you get told off by the forum police.
Mattie I had tracking done the other week if thats what you mean by alignment?
#13: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:28 am ---- We advised you what do do 1st answer mate. If you think there is a problem take it to a garage because you don't know what your looking for, it could me many things to do with the axle.
#14: Re: Strange one... suggestions please? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:47 am ----
JordGJ wrote:
Mattie I had tracking done the other week if thats what you mean by alignment?
If you are worried then get a steering geometry check done. I think Aldon (?) automotive in Stourbridge charge about £40 for it. Basically it will tell you if the front and/or rear are mis-aligned (ie: if the car is crabbing etc)
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