#1: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:59 am ---- No this isnt some funny video where a 206 demolishes a wall, this is what happens when you reverse out of a parking space into a brick wall
Awaits "was a girl driving?" and the "how big was the wall?" questions.
So do you think it can be fixed? Obviously the bumper is just a respray but the metal frame of the car has creased, creating a new line on the side of the car. Doubt it will add much to the aerodynamics of the car.
So go on, commence the laughter...
#2: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:06 am ---- Go ask your local NON insurance approved bodyshop for a quote to repair it.
NON insurance approved body shops get work through word of mouth so they normally do a really good job so they get new customers.
#3: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jack123, Location: Earl Shilton UKPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:07 am ---- What color was the wall?
You'll need to check the fittings, but if a new panel should be okay?
#4: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:21 am ---- A good bodyshop may be able to, but it won't be cheap...
#5: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:24 am ---- Pop it out the best you can, and fill the rest. Then sell it.
#6: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:37 am ---- I'm with Lee. 2bh I'd take the light out and try and hit most of it back out with a hammer and some wood then sand it down and filler it your self will save you ALOT, as body shops seem to charge more for the prep than the actual spraying.
#7: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:44 am ---- Money isn't the problem, the reason the bumper is blue is because I had a GTi180 bumper fitted.
All I want to know is, can it be fixed? Because that part of the car isn't a panel like the front is it? It's part of the main shell of the car I thought
#8: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:49 am ---- Yes it can be fixed, question is how well can it be done. You need to take it to a bodyshop to look at it, no one on here will be able to tell you without seeing it
#9: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Dillon, Location: KentPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:10 pm ---- Ouch!
It can be repaired either by Lee's suggested method or more expensively. They will jig the car remove the damaged area of the rear panel ( angle grinder ) and stitch a new piece in by redoing the spot welds and stich the gap where it was cut.
#10: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:27 pm ---- for the cost of 206's i would bash it out and filler it
i think a new rear wing fitted would be well over 500 quid
#11: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:28 pm ---- A good bodyshop will fix that NOT replace it
#12: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:32 pm ---- That does not justify a new panel. Thats the sort of job a slide hammer was designed for.
#13: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Walton450, Location: LeicesterPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:02 pm ---- Agree with above slide hammer and filler.
#14: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:26 pm ---- Awesome! As long as it can be repaired that makes me feel better
#15: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:05 pm ----
#16: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam...........Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:11 pm ----
macca1411 wrote:
will get the worst of it out.
Oh my. I scroll down hoping no-one would say T-Cut so I could. Then the last bloody post (yours) does.
Cheers.
#17: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Matt, Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:26 pm ---- New panel, cut and weld. Then paint. About £120 all id say.
#18: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,WarwickshirePosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:31 pm ---- That dent can be fixe by any dent Dr. I had a crease knocked out at FCS and they did it perfectly! Can't tell now
#19: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:56 pm ----
Edward wrote:
That does not justify a new panel. Thats the sort of job a slide hammer was designed for.
Rothenberg Rospot for the professional
Great bit of kit
#20: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:04 pm ----
DeadEyePaul wrote:
That dent can be fixe by any dent Dr. I had a crease knocked out at FCS and they did it perfectly! Can't tell now
Not quite, in that particular location it is double skinned and wont be knocked out that easily. As mentioned a slide hammer will be the best repair but a new quarter will be the ultimate option.
As for having the panel cut off, buying a replacement, having it welded on and then painted for £120 is laughable! Times that by 4 and add about £50 for a decent job.
#21: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Matt, Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:29 pm ---- My £120 was for the work, not inc parts.
#22: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Matt, Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:31 pm ---- So £530?
#23: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:29 am ----
Matt wrote:
So £530?
I think that's more realistic. £20-£25 per hour (and that's cheap). I would be looking at at least 15 hours labour if they do the job properly plus materials and parts. There wouldn't be much change out of £100 to buy the panel for them to butcher.
It's cheaper to repair the panel than to replace it in whole or part. I think it's about 8 hours labour to paint and replace a front wing in a decent bodyshop.
#24: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Matt, Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:39 am ---- Ok so my £150 seems a little low. But it still shouldn't cost £530!
Maybe £250 but no more than that.
#25: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:21 pm ---- Like I said, price isn't an issue, I'm on good terms with a mechanic who does most of the work very cheaply for me, and gets me parts at cost price
#26: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Matt, Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:22 pm ---- It's not a mechanics job though.
#27: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:31 am ---- I was standing at the service desk at halfords when a women came in quite worried saying she really needed a mechanic, sounded pretty serious.
When he asked what's wrong she said she had a scratch, made me laugh
#28: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:45 am ---- When I say "mechanic" He owns a garage in Sheffield, it's just easier to drop it off with him, let him sort everything out e.g spray shop etc.. And I just pay him for the work, if any that he has to do.
Dropped the car off this morning, he had a quick look at the damage and said "it's a big job, have to remove the rear and side window to fix it"
I told him what you guys said about a slide hammer and he said it can be done without that. No idea how else you'd do it though.
Getting the vinyl removed aswell, since it's torn
#29: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:25 am ---- Remove the rear window, out of the boot?
#30: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: skinny, Location: HolbeachPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:48 pm ---- ive done exactly the same on mine a few years ago, just hammer out what you can get it as close to the original as possible and take it to a bodyshop.
aslong as its not creased the floor then all is good, all they would need to do is tape of the discoloured bit of bumper and spray it all in one if they are any good
Dropped the car off this morning, he had a quick look at the damage and said "it's a big job, have to remove the rear and side window to fix it"
Even if the tailgate is damaged, which it doesn't look like, the rear window can be masked easily. Even the quarter glass is a 5 minute job to take out and probably wouldn't be necessary as it can be masked around.
Personally I would take it somewhere else and get a proper estimate done by someone who knows about body repairs and not a mate who is a mechanic.
Dropped the car off this morning, he had a quick look at the damage and said "it's a big job, have to remove the rear and side window to fix it"
Even if the tailgate is damaged, which it doesn't look like, the rear window can be masked easily. Even the quarter glass is a 5 minute job to take out and probably wouldn't be necessary as it can be masked around.
Personally I would take it somewhere else and get a proper estimate done by someone who knows about body repairs and not a mate who is a mechanic.
He's not just "a mate who is a mechanic" he's a close family friend who's been servicing and fixing my dad's business cars for years. He's very trusted and has a great reputation round Sheffield. I'm confident he knows what he's doing, plus he gets a massive discount at the bodyshop round the corner. He isn't one of these "Kwik Fit" or "Halfords" mechanic
Personally I would take it somewhere else and get a proper estimate done by someone who knows about body repairs and not a mate who is a mechanic.
Agreed.
#34: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:51 am ---- Yes well when the car is fixed I'll show you how good the work is
#36: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:41 pm ---- Here's for all you doubters
TADAAAA!!!!
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#37: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: 2Oh!6, Location: GloucesterPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:53 pm ---- Looks like a decent job, how much did he charge?
#38: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:21 pm ---- Dunno, not got the bill yet
You went in blind without a quote?
You must trust this guy...
#40: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:06 pm ---- Like I said, this guy isn't some Kwik Fit mechanic, he's a very close family friend who's always worked on my families cars.
I'll let you guys know how much he cost when I get the bill, but whatever the price, it's well worth it
#41: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:10 pm ---- Looks weird around the bump strip? Like it doesn't line up correctly
Better than it being smashed though
#42: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:13 pm ---- Nah, the only bit that's slightly off is the part where the bumper goes into the wheel arch, sticks out a few milimeters than it used to, but still, a lot better condition than the before pics lol
#43: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Matt, Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:18 pm ---- I can still see where it was damaged, so it's not a great job. Still I guess it's better than before.
Boot lid looks bent on the corner nearest the light too.
#44: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:20 pm ---- It's not supposed to be a show car dude, the car has other dents. point is, it's a massive improvement on what it looked like 5 minutes after I did it
#45: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: sillyhilly, Location: The Mean Streets of CoventryPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:17 pm ---- I hope this time you actually removed the blue paint underneath before spraying?
#46: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:02 am ---- If you like the car,and want to keep it,it can be fixed in a prof. way,it may cost you,but you will have a good fix and car will look as it was.
#47: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:09 am ---- Didn't you see the pics? It looks like new compared to the previous picture
#48: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:52 am ----
Matt wrote:
I can still see where it was damaged, so it's not a great job. Still I guess it's better than before.
Boot lid looks bent on the corner nearest the light too.
My boot looks like that on both sides I thought it was normal :-/
#49: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:54 am ---- Not a bad repair by the way did he spray the panel or just pop the dent out because I can still see a few wavey bits but overall it looks near enough as good as new
#50: Re: 206 vs Brick Wall (not fun) Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:20 am ---- It was sprayed those wavey bits are the reflection of me lol
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