#1: Tight as a.... Author: TJsmith, Location: Ipswich, UKPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:11 am ---- Just bought some Bosch super 4s for the pug, went to take the old plugs out, and there all as tight as a nun apart from one? The engine was still slightly warm when I attempted it so thought this might have been the problem, expansion and all...
Any suggestions? I'm gunna try again first thing in the morning.
Also... Is there a oem tool for the 206? Cause they ain't half awkward to get to on the little 1.1 mower
Cheers
#2: Re: Tight as a.... Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:12 am ---- The spark plugs are awkward to remove? Seriously??
#3: Re: Tight as a.... Author: TJsmith, Location: Ipswich, UKPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:20 am ---- Not really awkward to get too, just can't get the right leverage with the spark plug remover I've got....
#4: Re: Tight as a.... Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:20 am ---- You must be using a tiny ratchet?
#5: Re: Tight as a.... Author: TJsmith, Location: Ipswich, UKPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:24 am ---- Here's the tool I'm using
Wouldn't say I'm the weakest guy either, they are solid, won't budge at all
#6: Re: Tight as a.... Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:29 am ---- Spark plug remover + a normal ratchet will get them off easy, you just can't get leverage with that tool never used one myself doesn't look that practical
#7: Re: Tight as a.... Author: TJsmith, Location: Ipswich, UKPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:32 am ---- Yeah, it is a tad awkward, I do have a spark plug socket somewhere so will give it a go with that when the engine cool
#8: Re: Tight as a.... Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:37 am ---- If you can get a pipe on the end or even mole grips to get a bit more leverage it would probably work
#9: Re: Tight as a.... Author: Seabook, Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:38 am ---- socket and extension bar will do the job.
#10: Re: Tight as a.... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:40 am ---- 8 valve TU spark plugs must be about the easiest ones to do there is, 10 minute job tops.
#11: Re: Tight as a.... Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:41 am ---- Angle joint essential and so is torque-wrench.
Yep, I'm a nerd big-style.
#12: Re: Tight as a.... Author: TJsmith, Location: Ipswich, UKPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:45 am ---- Alright I know changing the spark plugs are easy, I'm just struggling to remove them cause some knob'ed has over tightened them.
I'll give your suggestions a go, cheers guys
#13: Re: Tight as a.... Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:46 am ----
TJsmith wrote:
Alright I know changing the spark plugs are easy, I'm just struggling to remove them cause some knob'ed has over tightened them.I'll give your suggestions a go, cheers guys
V9977 wrote:
Angle joint essential and so is torque-wrench.
Yep, I'm a nerd big-style.
#14: Re: Tight as a.... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:49 am ---- Why do I get the feeling the threads in the cylinder head are going to be damaged
I havent used a torque wrench on spark plugs in years BUT the job I do everyday you can just feel when something is correctly tightened OR a thread is damaged.
#15: Re: Tight as a.... Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:52 am ---- Wonder if we have some cross-threaded action on the cards...??
#16: Re: Tight as a.... Author: TJsmith, Location: Ipswich, UKPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:00 pm ---- I bloody well hope there not cross threaded or frozen :L and I also am in a job where I have to tighten and losen things to correct torque myself everyday, but like I've said the only problem I'm having is getting them loose, cause they have obviously been over tightened
Wouldn't say I'm the weakest guy either, they are solid, won't budge at all
There is no-way you'll get enough torque when fitting the new one's in with that.
They need around 25Nm and it surprising how tight that is when using torque-wrench.
Especially on aluminium, it's important to get it just-right and not cross the threads as the others have said.
I have also seen 3 cars with rattling-loose spark-plugs when time came to change them..
#18: Re: Tight as a.... Author: TJsmith, Location: Ipswich, UKPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:05 pm ---- Aha okay, looks like that piece of crap can be thrown then
25Nm isn't that tight....not much more than finger tight.
25Nm is tight as a...
Get a torque-wrench you tight git.
#22: Re: Tight as a.... Author: TJsmith, Location: Ipswich, UKPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:15 pm ---- I got told once the general rule of thumb is to finger tight them, then a 1/4 turn with a socket, no more, no less... Last edited by TJsmith on Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
#23: Re: Tight as a.... Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:17 pm ----
TJsmith wrote:
I got told once the general rule of thumb is to finger tight them, the a 1/4 turn with a socket, no more, no less...
Depends if its a taper seat spark plug or one with a flat washer.
Normally tells you on the back of the packet how tight to do them up.
I got told once the general rule of thumb is to finger tight them, the a 1/4 turn with a socket, no more, no less...
Depends if its a taper seat spark plug or one with a flat washer.
Normally tells you on the back of the packet how tight to do them up.
It does tell you on the packet.
Finger-tight plus 1/4 turn will mean rattle-rattle in no-time.
25Nm or thereabouts is what Peugeot says and that's tight.
Lee wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Lee wrote:
25Nm isn't that tight....not much more than finger tight.
25Nm is tight as a...
Get a torque-wrench you tight git.
I have one, but it only does 30nm to 120nm
Plus I use the better fuel anyway, I don't have need for spark plugs
Tesco Plus?
#26: Re: Tight as a.... Author: TJsmith, Location: Ipswich, UKPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:29 pm ---- Haha alright then lads, looks like these plugs are gunna cost more than I though lol
I got told once the general rule of thumb is to finger tight them, the a 1/4 turn with a socket, no more, no less...
Depends if its a taper seat spark plug or one with a flat washer.
Normally tells you on the back of the packet how tight to do them up.
It does tell you on the packet.
Finger-tight plus 1/4 turn will mean rattle-rattle in no-time.
25Nm or thereabouts is what Peugeot says and that's tight.
Lee wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Lee wrote:
25Nm isn't that tight....not much more than finger tight.
25Nm is tight as a...
Get a torque-wrench you tight git.
I have one, but it only does 30nm to 120nm
Plus I use the better fuel anyway, I don't have need for spark plugs
Tesco Plus?
#28: Re: Tight as a.... Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:32 pm ---- I tightened mine to 25nm, normally it isn't that tight but on spark plugs it felt forever thought I was going to strip the thread
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