#1: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: nonamecc79, Location: londonPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:37 pm ---- Hi there, long time reader but first time poster
Im having problems with my 55 reg 206 1.1 sport which doesnt seem to turn over. When I switch the ignition, the wipers randomly start up, the lights automatically come on, and the dahs gives me random lights. WHen I go to start up the car, it trys to turn on but the rev counter only goes up a little. Prior to the issue, I have recently installed a new head unit and subwoofer. When I fitted the headunit, I found that two wires needed to be switched. When I cut and reconnected the wires, the dashboard will light up and start buzzing at me. When I went to switch the wires back to normal, the problem started. WHat have I done wrong?? Should I connect the stock headunit again?? Thanks
#2: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:40 pm ---- did you not disconnect the battery before you wire up your sub and headunit?
#3: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:45 pm ---- Did you not disconnect the battery before replacing the headunit?
First rule with any electrical work on a 206 is disconnect the battery to avoid frying the BSI.
Try a BSI reset (you'll find details if you do a search) and if that doesn't work then start looking at fuses before going down the expensive route of having the BSI replaced.
BTW, welcome to the site, looks like you've been leeching from it since January and only communicating with us when something goes wrong.
Edit. Seabook, you beat me to it.
#4: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: nonamecc79, Location: londonPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:51 pm ---- I did disconnect the battery whilst doing the subwoofer, but... not the radio >.< I shall have to try a BSI reset in the morning. Then I shall check the fuses. This site I just wonderful!! I dont know a lot about 206's so I dont want to give false advice to others lol. Only just recently started driving tbh. Thanks for your suggestions
#5: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:55 pm ---- make sure you disconnect the battery before you check the fuse....
#6: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: nonamecc79, Location: londonPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:05 pm ---- will do, will report back with results tomoz, night
#7: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:57 pm ---- Whats the betting the VAN wire to the back of the radio has been fiddled with thinking its + volt supply
There is NO NEED to cut wires on a 206 to install an aftermarket radio.
Hope you havent sent +12 volts down the VAN wire as if you have it will have likely fried the BSI unit.
#8: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:33 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Whats the betting the VAN wire to the back of the radio has been fiddled with thinking its + volt supply
There is NO NEED to cut wires on a 206 to install an aftermarket radio.
Hope you havent sent +12 volts down the VAN wire as if you have it will have likely fried the BSI unit.
,that is why if you don't know how to do a DIY job,take it for someone who know what he is doing,a garage or a friend,instead of causing you a problem that might cost you x10 his labor
#9: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: nonamecc79, Location: londonPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:26 am ---- UPDATE:
I tried the BSI reset but still nothing. I also checked all the fuses and they seem intact. I reckon the BSI is dead I'll upload a video and some pictures later on to give a clear image of what is happening.
I read online somewhere that you need to swap the ignition and live wire so that the radio will store the settings :S
#10: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:15 am ---- I'm sure Peugeot will be happy to relieve your wallet of around £600 to sort it out for you.
#11: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:00 pm ----
nonamecc79 wrote:
UPDATE:
I tried the BSI reset but still nothing. I also checked all the fuses and they seem intact. I reckon the BSI is dead I'll upload a video and some pictures later on to give a clear image of what is happening.
I read online somewhere that you need to swap the ignition and live wire so that the radio will store the settings :S
I'd just pay the £8.98 for the multiplexed aftermarket radio adaptor harness as it's a much safer option.
Available from any Peugeot / Citroen main dealer
If you have fiddled with wire numbers XE24, 9004 or 9005 then you have likely damaged the BSI unit as these are the VAN wires ( Vehicle Area Network )
#12: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: nonamecc79, Location: londonPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:10 am ---- I cut the blue and red wires :S My blue remote cable for the subwoofer was connected to the blue wire as well. I think it was the switched 12v wire
#13: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:15 am ----
nonamecc79 wrote:
I cut the blue and red wires :S My blue remote cable for the subwoofer was connected to the blue wire as well. I think it was the switched 12v wire
Peugeot / Citroen wiring doesnt work by colours apart from green / yellow for earth.
PSA Peugeot / Citroen use codes printed on the wires.
Look at the wires you cut & there will be a alphanumeric code printed on them every few inches
#14: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: lmilligan, Location: HertfordshirePosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:29 am ---- sounds like the bsi is proper shagged
#15: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:47 am ---- 1) Solder & heatshrink the wires back together.
2) Check with a multimeter ALL the BSI fuses are intact / not blown.
3) Check ALL the fuses in the BM34 underbonnet fusebox in the same way.
4) Reboot the BSI unit correctly.
If it's still dead then remove the BSI unit & either replace it with a VIRGIN / NEW unit OR send the original of for repair & BE HONEST about what you have done to it to kill it!
A new BSI unit from Peugeot is £339.77 PLUS whatever the labour charge is to configure it to the car ( at least an hours labour charge )
#16: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:55 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
1) Solder & heatshrink the wires back together.
2) Check with a multimeter ALL the BSI fuses are intact / not blown.
3) Check ALL the fuses in the BM34 underbonnet fusebox in the same way.
4) Reboot the BSI unit correctly.
If it's still dead then remove the BSI unit & either replace it with a VIRGIN / NEW unit OR send the original of for repair & BE HONEST about what you have done to it to kill it!
A new BSI unit from Peugeot is £339.77 PLUS whatever the labour charge is to configure it to the car ( at least an hours labour charge )
#17: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: nonamecc79, Location: londonPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:41 am ---- Thanks for your replies
I had a mechanic come round today and run a diagnotics on the BSI module as well as the engine. When he ran his test on the laptop, it didnt report back any error codes or problems. He also checked the fuses which were all fine. He then checked the spark plugs to see if they worked. They seemed to be fine and there was petrol going into the engine. He said the only thing causing the problem could be the immoboliser as the car wasnt recognising the remote locking either. ANy ideas on how much it will cost to repair this?? THanks
#18: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:39 pm ---- If someone can scan it with Peugeot Planet you'll know for sure, i think an imobiliser fault would show up. Can you try another key, is the imobiliser fuse ok?
#19: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:17 pm ---- Im out - 2 dead 1.1 206's of 2005 vintage must be a coincidence, someone's shagged a BSI unit on another forum I use
Its the other end of the country to this one.
#20: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: nonamecc79, Location: londonPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:31 pm ---- ALL FIXED!!! well.. kinda lol
On the headunit i connected the blue wire to the red one and hey presto, the car fired up!!!! :))) Basically when the break in the blue wires are bridge the car doesnt seem to work, even though thats how it was originally :S
The only problems now are:
that the remote centeral locking doesnt work
the MFD clock/date reset everytime the car is unlocked
when the car is unlocked and the door is opened, it plays some sort of high pitch chime for a sec
#21: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:04 pm ---- So bodged rather than repaired.
#22: Re: 206 Not starting up, wipers and lights come on Author: nonamecc79, Location: londonPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:24 am ----
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,that is why if you don't know how to do a DIY job,take it for someone who know what he is doing,a garage or a friend,instead of causing you a problem that might cost you x10 his labor
I'll upload a video and some pictures later on to give a clear image of what is happening.
well.. kinda lol
