#1: Unusual suspension question Author: Mounty, Location: United KingdomPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:16 pm ---- Recently got a 206 GTi for using in production car trials. I need to get the suspension raised up as much as possible and will be doing the torsion bars on the rear but need to get the front higher.
Will front springs off a 1.1 or 1.4 fit the Gti? If I can fit these I'll then add some Grayston spring assisters to keep the springs stretched.
Any ideas appreciated.
#2: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Seabook, Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:44 pm ---- it will fit but why do you have to use the spring off a 1.1/1.4?
#3: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:10 pm ---- more importantly it will handle like a bag of sh*t
#4: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Mounty, Location: United KingdomPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:49 pm ---- Handling not an issue as its very low speed skill tests. Also disconnecting the rear ARB.
Can i get away with just a spring change or would you say damper as well.?
#5: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Seabook, Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:56 pm ---- i don't understand what you want to do and why.
#8: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:51 am ---- If it's low speed then why does it matter whether it's low or high?
Also 1.1 springs might end up lower than standard GTi springs because of the extra weight.
#9: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Mounty, Location: United KingdomPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:42 am ---- I understand why this seems a daft idea, but the softer springs from lower spec models create an element of 'bounce' on the front which helps to get the car over some of the humps & hills.
The white AX GT and black Saxo VTR in this clip www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNqEvJNolWE have 1.1 front springs and ARB disconnected. More travel in the rear suspension is required so disconnecting ARB helps here.
Not everybody's cup of tea but intend to do this over winter and then lower it during summer for tarmac autosolos.
#10: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: gaffa786, Location: 2 Places at oncePosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:29 am ----
#11: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:09 am ---- You need to think this through because if you remove the torsion bars altogether, hitting a bump at the right speed and you will smack the bump stops with the trailing arms - unless you have uprated shocks.
The front springs, I can see the logic...
...but I can't see the logic in a FWD going up a hill in the snow.
#12: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:39 am ---- You guys don't understand, and haven't thought to Google, what "production car trials" are.
Why do you need the GTI, the 1.1 or 1.4 would probably do just as good a job?
#13: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:49 am ----
SinfulDesignCom wrote:
You need to think this through because if you remove the torsion bars altogether, hitting a bump at the right speed and you will smack the bump stops with the trailing arms - unless you have uprated shocks.
You cant remove torsion bars! They support the car - never mind when you hit a bump. Torsion bars also hold the traling arms onto the axle tube.
Uprated dampers dont restrict suspension travel either.
#14: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:23 am ---- I did once drive an AX GT 20 miles down the M62 with only axle and shocks... Bloody good fun. Nearly killed myself doing it, but fun nonetheless
But joking aside... agreeing with Edward here. Removing the torision bars is a one-way ticket to looking a tit
#15: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Seabook, Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:39 am ---- you need longer spring with longer travel dampers....not necessarily softer spring as you will bottom out the suspension
instead of removing the rear ARB, you should remove the front one to give you more road contact as yours aren't RWD....
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