#16: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: paul_c, Location: UKPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:48 am ----
Seabook wrote:
you need longer spring with longer travel dampers....not necessarily softer spring as you will bottom out the suspension
instead of removing the rear ARB, you should remove the front one to give you more road contact as yours aren't RWD....
and you need a clutch type diff as well
Before you do anything, take a look at the regulations. By modifying the suspension you'll put yourself into a different class, for example, which is why I suggested starting from the 1.1 or 1.4 instead of GTI. Clutch type diff will DEFINITELY put you into a different class too.
#17: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Seabook, Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:06 am ----
paul_c wrote:
Seabook wrote:
you need longer spring with longer travel dampers....not necessarily softer spring as you will bottom out the suspension
instead of removing the rear ARB, you should remove the front one to give you more road contact as yours aren't RWD....
and you need a clutch type diff as well
Before you do anything, take a look at the regulations. By modifying the suspension you'll put yourself into a different class, for example, which is why I suggested starting from the 1.1 or 1.4 instead of GTI. Clutch type diff will DEFINITELY put you into a different class too.
just checked the regulation and i got nothing to suggest
as it only allow wheel/ tyre mod
#18: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Mounty, Location: United KingdomPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:50 pm ---- The reason for the GTi is the amount of torque it produces which is what you need to get the momentum going. Greatest torque figure of all cars of that size. Plus it will be a quick car for tarmac autosolo's in summer. 1.1 or 1.4 will do a decent job but sometimes you need a bit more welly to get you through.
Have done a season in a Saxo 1.4 so know a bit about rules and regs at club level and suspension mods are allowed.
@ Sinful - Never suggested removing torsion bars just disconnecting rear ARB but leaving in place.
Also need some narrower wheels/tyres which cut through mud a bit better. Deeper sidewalls are all important as tyres generally run at 14psi.
#19: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: SinfulDesignCom, Location: Ashford, KentPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:34 pm ---- Apologies Mounty - no idea where I got the torsion bars from - need some sleep I think :S
#20: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Mounty, Location: United KingdomPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:13 pm ---- Located a pair of front suspension legs and coils off a 1.4. Is it pretty straight forward to replace these. Any tips as never done this before.
Also seen some aftermarket springs on Fleabay stating they are suitable or whole model range 1.1 to Gti. How can this be? Thought Gti would have stiffer coils?
#21: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Mounty, Location: United KingdomPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:19 pm ---- Someone has now suggested I use front suspension legs from a 406. Said it would support the weight of the 2.0 engine better than springs from a 1.1/1.4?
406 springs should fit a 206 shouldn't they?
#22: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:37 pm ---- not the 406 that wont work without the dampers as well, the 406 spring coils narrower than 206
is this sport just nailing the car up a hill on loose surfaces
#23: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:39 am ---- 306 would fit but you will have to modified the anti-roll bar mount.
#24: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Mounty, Location: United KingdomPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:37 pm ----
usher wrote:
not the 406 that wont work without the dampers as well, the 406 spring coils narrower than 206
is this sport just nailing the car up a hill on loose surfaces
It would be the whole leg off a 406, so coil and damper all in 1 unit.
Ha ha, pretty much but a little more skill. Courses are marked out, so as well as nailing it up a hill you have to get between maker posts and perform tight turns on side slopes, all on wet grass and mud. Standard tyres only but can run down to about 12psi to help with grip. Some people drive their road car to the event and compete then drive home.
I was at Brickhill (MK) last Sunday, we came 3rd in class in an AX GT. Type in Brickhill Trial on Youtube and there's a few clips of various events.
#25: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Mounty, Location: United KingdomPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:39 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
306 would fit but you will have to modified the anti-roll bar mount.
Would the mount need modifying on a 406 unit as well?
#26: Re: Unusual suspension question Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:46 pm ---- i never see any people use the 406 damper on 206 so i am not sure
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