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#1: powersteering fluid Author: Seabook,  PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:34 pm
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how much do i need?

and how can i drain the oil fluid as i never recall to see a drain plug is anywhere...

the fluid looks very black (level has been fine and had never been top up since i bought the car) when i check it few weeks back and i do like a change.

and how can i bleed the system?
#2: Re: powersteering fluid Author: cartoonhead, Location: North Manchester PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:54 pm
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to drain i would say undo the pipes from the rack (lowest point) and to bleed just top it up and keep turning the wheel full lock from left to right.
#3: Re: powersteering fluid Author: broadblaster, Location: south coast PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:57 pm
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you can undo a pipe to drain it or i just used like a syphon and sucked the fluid out of the reservoir and topped it up with fresh fluid then ran the car kept turning it from lock to lock untilll it looked dirty again then repeated doing it untill it ran clean.
and you don't need to bleed it just going lock to lock a few time will purge any air out mate.
#4: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Seabook,  PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:02 pm
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cool.

do i need any special tools to remove the pipe?

i presume i have to turn the steering wheel when engine is running? wheels on the ground or not?
#5: Re: powersteering fluid Author: broadblaster, Location: south coast PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:04 pm
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ye you need it running but wheels can be on or off ground dont really matter but less strain on the system if off
tool no not really as long as you got a open ended spanner that fits (not sure on size tbh)
#6: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Seabook,  PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:32 pm
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thanks

i hope the hayne manual would tell me how much fluid i need.....(left it in the garage....lol)

absolutely no luck in finding the capacity of the power steering pump
#7: Re: powersteering fluid Author: broadblaster, Location: south coast PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:39 pm
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i was lucky i had 5 gallons sat in the shed so just done it 4-5 times lol i would get a bit spare as ok the pot don't hold alot but the pipes and rack soon add up in volume.
#8: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Seabook,  PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:41 pm
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sounds about right then, some say 1L is more than enough...
#9: Re: powersteering fluid Author: broadblaster, Location: south coast PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:46 pm
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maybe 1lt for the pot but bet you use nearer 3 lts mate best to get to much than too little you gonna be pi**ed off if you run out and its not full just rember to keep turning lock to lock a good few times to get all the air out and keep topping up as needed its amazeing how much it drops
#10: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Seabook,  PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:14 pm
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thanks, can always pick some up round the corner so no big deal for me Smile
#11: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:03 am
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PAS fluid is quite expensive isn't it? Compared to brake fluid anyway...
#12: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Seabook,  PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:24 pm
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Edward wrote:
PAS fluid is quite expensive isn't it? Compared to brake fluid anyway...

haven't really check the price but i though is around 5-6 quid per litre?

though they are just ATF anyway... Laughing
#13: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:30 pm
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I'm sure ECP wanted £22 a bottle although not sure how big it is.
#14: Re: powersteering fluid Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:55 pm
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According to Haynes the capacity for power steering fluid is 1 litre approx.

Works out about £20 per litre from dealer for the Total brand. Esso is cheaper by about £5, they also list the same stuff for auto box top up.
#15: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Seabook,  PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:03 pm
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ECP is always a rip off.

total ATX is less than 5 quid per litre
#16: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Seabook,  PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:05 pm
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macca1411 wrote:
According to Haynes the capacity for power steering fluid is 1 litre approx.

Works out about £20 per litre from dealer for the Total brand. Esso is cheaper by about £5, they also list the same stuff for auto box top up.

you sure?

i just check the technical guide it said:

RECOMMENDATIONS POWER STEERING FLUID (SERVICE)

The hydraulic fluid DEXRON 2 can be used for the following vehicles (Temperate climates) :

106 - 206 - 306
406 - 607 - 806
PARTNER - EXPERT - BOXER

NOTE : for versions for very cold climates: the hydraulic fluid TOTAL FLUIDE LDS H50126 or the hydraulic fluid PENTOSIN CHF11S must be used .

and dexron 2 oil is dirt cheap Confused
#17: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:06 pm
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We just use motoquip s**t at the dealers now Laughing

About £14 i think?
#18: Re: powersteering fluid Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:41 pm
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Seabook wrote:
cool.

do i need any special tools to remove the pipe?

i presume i have to turn the steering wheel when engine is running? wheels on the ground or not?

Engine off, wheels on the ground 10 times lock-to-lock then engine on 10 more times lock-to-lock.

From PSA:

(H) : Maximum level (Hot) .

(C) : Maximum level (Cold) .


IMPERATIVE : use new fluid when filling and topping up the system .

Fill the power steering reservoir 10 to mm above the maximum mark (A) .

With the engine stopped, Turn the steering slowly from lock to lock in each direction : Approximately 10 times .

Again fill the reservoir up to the maximum level (A) .

4 - BLEEDING

Run the engine at idle for 2 to 3 minutes without moving the steering wheel .

Keep the fluid level topped up .

Bleed the circuit by turning the steering several times in each direction .

Keep the fluid level topped up .

(A)Maximum level .

The level must be set with the engine stopped and the wheels straight ahead
#19: Re: powersteering fluid Author: Seabook,  PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:43 pm
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V9977 wrote:
Seabook wrote:
cool.

do i need any special tools to remove the pipe?

i presume i have to turn the steering wheel when engine is running? wheels on the ground or not?

Engine off, wheels on the ground 10 times lock-to-lock then engine on 10 more times lock-to-lock.

From PSA:

(H) : Maximum level (Hot) .

(C) : Maximum level (Cold) .


IMPERATIVE : use new fluid when filling and topping up the system .

Fill the power steering reservoir 10 to mm above the maximum mark (A) .

With the engine stopped, Turn the steering slowly from lock to lock in each direction : Approximately 10 times .

Again fill the reservoir up to the maximum level (A) .

4 - BLEEDING

Run the engine at idle for 2 to 3 minutes without moving the steering wheel .

Keep the fluid level topped up .

Bleed the circuit by turning the steering several times in each direction .

Keep the fluid level topped up .

(A)Maximum level .

The level must be set with the engine stopped and the wheels straight ahead

thanks

actually i have just check that one out Laughing
#20: Re: powersteering fluid Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:44 pm
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Ah, but I wrote it all from memory.
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