#1: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:37 am ---- Okay here goes…
Just as well I didn’t make a bet with you BSI.
I apologise for ignoring all advice I was given and went ahead and bought the car.
It seems people can make themselves look incredibly retarded when selling a car to the point when you believe them when they say they have no idea about cars! Unfortunately this retard was very smart as the diesel filter message didn’t come up on the test drive. It did however this morning when I filled up!
Peugeot want £300 for regen which may not work a further £850 for a complete replacement.
I have had quotes for removing the whole thing, one for £380 but that's in Manchester and another for £450 in Chelmsford, 18 miles from me.
I would have had to replace/remove it eventually as Pug said that these fail at around 80k so it would have been inevitable anyway.
I would just want a construction answer to, is there any disadvantage of having it removed?
Kind regards,
Alex
#2: Re: Please no abuse Author: cartoonhead, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:45 am ----
#3: Re: Please no abuse Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:45 am ---- I found this, not sure how much help it'll be to you-
' The 'diesel filter' on your cars alarm message is a particle filter in your cars exhaust system that traps most of the diesel particles. The fluid is Eolys fluid that is automatically injected into the fuel each time you fill up.
The fluid helps the particles to burn more readily at a lower temperature.
The particle filter is meant to be changed or cleaned out at 50,000, or on later model cars 80,000 miles. The Eolys fluid is filled up at the same time so that the system works for another 50 or 80k miles.
Most garages will just change the filter which is where the £749 cost is coming from.
If you are handy you can remove the particle filter & clean it yourself with jetted water & fill the Eolys container, costs about £120 for 5l of Eolys.
Your car may just need a good run ie 20 miles up the motorway at 3000 revs & 70 mph which may clean out the filter. But if your car is one that needed the filter service at 50k it will only be a temporary fix.
Do a forum search on 'FAP' & 'Eolys' & you will get a good understanding of how the system functions'.
#4: Re: Please no abuse Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:47 am ---- So the 8 weeks I said on your other thread was more then a bit generous of me, its not even lasted 8 days
#5: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:48 am ---- Yeah I read that this morning thanks mate. A good run in 4th for 32 miles this morning did not clear it.
#6: Re: Please no abuse Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:12 am ----
206HdiGti wrote:
Yeah I read that this morning thanks mate. A good run in 4th for 32 miles this morning did not clear it.
No wonder. Wouldn't listen to the advice of anyone who hasn't actually owned a DV6.
You'll have blocked the filter more. To attempt a regeneration, you need to drive in a high gear and at low revs, above 40mph.
Get the codes read before you make your next move.
#7: Re: Please no abuse Author: ARRAN, Location: WiltshirePosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:24 am ---- Absolutely brilliant!!
Quoted from your previous thread.
206HdiGti wrote:
I won't be posting them [problems] on here anyway mainly due to the fact I know if I did there would be a hostile reception and I wouldn't get any help.
#8: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:32 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
So the 8 weeks I said on your other thread was more then a bit generous of me, its not even lasted 8 days
It obviously had a problem before I bought it.
Everyone makes decisions against people's advice every once in a while i'm sure everyone on here has done it, but you don't learn from mistakes until you make one.
As no one else has answered my question, perhaps you could shed light on if I remove it is there any disadvantage?
#9: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:32 am ----
ARRAN wrote:
Absolutely brilliant!!
Quoted from your previous thread.
206HdiGti wrote:
I won't be posting them [problems] on here anyway mainly due to the fact I know if I did there would be a hostile reception and I wouldn't get any help.
You have just proved that to be correct by not giving any help or a constructive answer to the question.
#10: Re: Please no abuse Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:34 am ---- Ghosty on here removed his DPF. He had some problems with it, not sure if its fixed now or not.
#11: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:35 am ----
Lecktorious wrote:
206HdiGti wrote:
Yeah I read that this morning thanks mate. A good run in 4th for 32 miles this morning did not clear it.
No wonder. Wouldn't listen to the advice of anyone who hasn't actually owned a DV6.
You'll have blocked the filter more. To attempt a regeneration, you need to drive in a high gear and at low revs, above 40mph.
Get the codes read before you make your next move.
Thanks mate - how do I get the codes read?
#12: Re: Please no abuse Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:07 am ---- Take it to a Peugeot dealer.
#13: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:14 am ---- I'm going to see if it goes away when I drive as says above and not ragging it.
#14: Re: Please no abuse Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:18 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Take it to a Peugeot dealer.
#15: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:25 am ---- It's a bit of an issue as i'm not really in a situation where I can do so until after the weekend.
I'm currently working my final 2 weeks notice since handing in my resignation letter and Company have been A-holes generally and leaving work early is not going to be possible. Going to a two day Indian wedding at weekend too.
I'll see if I can take it on Monday and if it's tom-tucked I'll get it removed on Tuesday.
#16: Re: Please no abuse Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:29 am ---- normally it's too late to regen it yourself if the message shown up.
could either force it to regen at the dealer; clean the whole unit and reset the counter or remove it.
#17: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:31 am ---- Thank you Seabook
#18: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:17 am ---- It's booked in for Monday for removal.
#19: Re: Please no abuse Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:49 am ---- Why is it that when someone puts a thread title like this, you just feel compelled to do it?
#20: Re: Please no abuse Author: cartoonhead, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:54 am ----
macca1411 wrote:
Why is it that when someone puts a thread title like this, you just feel compelled to do it?
instinct ?
#21: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:49 am ---- It's getting sorted now so all good. Thank you to those of you who abused me less than others
#22: Re: Please no abuse Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:57 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
So the 8 weeks I said on your other thread was more then a bit generous of me, its not even lasted 8 days
#23: Re: Please no abuse Author: 2Oh!6, Location: GloucesterPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:42 pm ---- Are you going to sell it once it's fixed?
#24: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:27 pm ---- Probably not, but it may be a valid selling point with an expensive item no longer needed to be replaced or regenned I suppose.
Would it be more sought after without a DPF? lol
#25: Re: Please no abuse Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:11 pm ---- It's a bit of a grey area, with regards to the legality of removing the DPF. That may put off potential buyers.
If you are going to the expense of getting it removed, I would hold onto the car for a bit longer. Might as well get your moneys worth. Only downside is something else may fail in that time. Last edited by Lecktorious on Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:04 pm; edited 1 time in total
#26: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:44 pm ---- Something else is always going to fail on a car. Nothing is made to last forever.
PDF? Hehe.
I have no reason to get rid of it, in my way of thinking I was going to have to get it sorted anyway, wasn't expecting this soon, but these things happen of course.
I'm still astounded that the 23 litres of fuel I put in this morning is giving me 330 miles! Where my MR2 would drink 330 on £70!
#27: Re: Please no abuse Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:26 pm ---- At least this thread gave me a giggle
#28: Re: Please no abuse Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:52 pm ----
206HdiGti wrote:
my MR2 would drink 330 on £70!
My RX8 does 190 miles on £70.
#29: Re: Please no abuse Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:57 pm ----
E5GDM wrote:
206HdiGti wrote:
my MR2 would drink 330 on £70!
My RX8 does 190 miles on £70.
i do over 700 miles on £70
#30: Re: Please no abuse Author: Matt, Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:24 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
E5GDM wrote:
206HdiGti wrote:
my MR2 would drink 330 on £70!
My RX8 does 190 miles on £70.
i do over 700 miles on £70
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#31: Re: Please no abuse Author: chuckstar34, Location: London/Worcester/ GrimsbyPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:33 pm ---- Really Seabrook??? 700....hmmm....did 550 going to scotland once with me Mum on board so took it easy. WOuld love to get 700 froma tank full. Is it me or the car not doing something right??
#32: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:35 am ---- I've worked it out if you get a full tank, as in 50 litres, which isn't always possible and work with 65 mpg you'll get over 700 miles. One of the reasons I went for a pug diesel, as they seem to produce the most but not have a massive fuel tank.
#33: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:59 pm ---- It was removed today for a cheaper price of £450 inc VAT.
#34: Re: Please no abuse Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:09 pm ----
206HdiGti wrote:
It was removed today for a cheaper price of £450 inc VAT.
Whats the name of the company that did it then? Other FAPTASTIC 206 owners might want to know
#35: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:31 pm ---- I cannot tell if you are taking the michael or not lol
Kee Automotive - Kevin is his name
He operates at Reeds Farm Industrial on the Roxwell Road, Chelmsford, Essex.
You can find it on google. Offers other remaps as well as DPF removal.
#36: Re: Please no abuse Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:52 pm ---- Welcome to my world.
I had mine removed, replaced with a straight through pipe and a remap.
You best get ready for your next bill which will almost 100% be the dual mass fly wheel!
#37: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:53 am ---- Thanks for that, but I didn't have a remap or have a straight through pipe put on mine.
Why would I want to add more unnecessary power and put stress on something?
I've changed a flywheel and clutch on my other car so unless it has to be plugged into a computer I can't see why it has to go to a garage to be sorted out.
#38: Re: Please no abuse Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:51 am ---- I dont think he's saying you'll need a garage to do it but IIRC DMF's are expensive
#39: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:09 am ---- Oh yeah I've seen how much they cost it's okay.
1/4 month's wages
#40: Re: Please no abuse Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:07 am ----
206HdiGti wrote:
Oh yeah I've seen how much they cost it's okay.
1/4 month's wages
Add 2 days labour on top of that.
#41: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:20 am ---- If it happened I'd get my mate to do it.
4 pints
#42: Re: Please no abuse Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:20 am ----
206HdiGti wrote:
If it happened I'd get my mate to do it.
4 pints
Clutch change on the 206 1.6 HDI is 11 hours book time according to Peugeot
#43: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:37 pm ---- WTF!!!
Is that with the apprentice doing it?
#44: Re: Please no abuse Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:40 pm ---- How can it possibly take that long?
#45: Re: Please no abuse Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:46 pm ---- Come on now, no abuse! Ha ha ha
#46: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:59 pm ---- Taking the box off of my MR2 was a pain, but got that out in 4 hours, longer to get back in due to position and weight but that wasn't 11 all together.
#47: Re: Please no abuse Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:50 pm ---- One of the bolts for the box is hidden by the DPF, so you need to remove the filter and the cooling system.
#48: Re: Please no abuse Author: 206HdiGti, Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:36 pm ---- Why the hell would they design it like that?
Or is it just so you have to take it to Pug and get it done?
#49: Re: Please no abuse Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:40 pm ----
206HdiGti wrote:
Why the hell would they design it like that?
Or is it just so you have to take it to Pug and get it done?
Its only the 1.6 HDI that is a ballache to do the clutch on when fitted in the 206, the rest of the engines used in the 206 the clutch is dead simple & quick to replace.
1.6 HDI is also the only 206 that uses the problematic electro hydraulic power steering setup, all other 206 use a good old fashioned engine driven hydraulic pump.
#50: Re: Please no abuse Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:08 am ---- How long to do a clutch on a 137gti?and how long to do it on the floor with jack and axle stands but a good level of skill?how much do they charge at a garage for this job?curious only for now thankfully...cheers...
#51: Re: Please no abuse Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:12 am ----
bezford wrote:
How long to do a clutch on a 137gti?and how long to do it on the floor with jack and axle stands but a good level of skill?how much do they charge at a garage for this job?curious only for now thankfully...cheers...
I can get the box on and off in afternoon on a 1.4 in the freezing cold on axle stands, the most awkward part is lifting the box back in. the 138 isnt much different to do.
#52: Re: Please no abuse Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:00 pm ---- yeah a good trolley jack and another pair of hands for that bit,i know!
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