#1: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: kernel, Location: EarthPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:07 am ---- Hi
When cold, car starts perfect on 4 cylinders.
After 2-3 minutes of warming up and driving (on idle anything occurs), the car shows message antipollution fault, then catalytic converter fault, and (this is really strange) ABS/ESR fault (and ESP deactivates ), and car runs on 3 cylinders (pof-pof sound, vibrations...). And MIL switch on.
If I stop engine and restart, car runs well for 10-15 seconds and then messages again and 3 cyl.
I did a scan and this are the results: P0300: Random Misfire P1336: (no description) P0341: Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit Range/Performance
It's not spark plugs, or ingition coils (changed both).
I also think I can discard a compression issue, because for the first 2 minutes the car goes well. If its open valve it would be failing always.
I think injectors could be the problem. But then again, P0300 means a problem on various or random cylinders... which sounds strange if one injector is failing.
I think EGR it's okay because I checked with OBDII while engine was running and it opens/closes OK.
The code P0341 related to Cam sensor... could a malfuncion on sensor cause going on 3 cylinders? Sounds strange. I think P0341 its more a symptom than the cause of the problem.
Maybe MAF/MAP failing?
Any advice will be appreciated!
#2: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: Dan-, Location: BiggleswadePosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:19 pm ---- worth a try vvt solenoid give it a clean, might not be the problem but worth a go, it normally makes the car run like a 1.2 but not heard it giving a misfire
#3: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:36 pm ---- www.206info.co.uk/Foru...ntrol.html
Looks like your camshaft sensor is playing up. Take it out and clean it up, might need replacing.
#4: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:37 pm ---- P1336 Crank / Cam Sensor Range / Performance
#5: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: kernel, Location: EarthPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:27 pm ----
Dan- wrote:
worth a try vvt solenoid give it a clean, might not be the problem but worth a go, it normally makes the car run like a 1.2 but not heard it giving a misfire
Looks like your camshaft sensor is playing up. Take it out and clean it up, might need replacing.
Steve206 wrote:
P1336 Crank / Cam Sensor Range / Performance
So I get both CAM & Crank errors I localized Cam sensor, though I don't know how to remove it for clean. No idea where is Crank sensor
Appart from that, I think that maybe ECU is disconnecting some cylinder when detects a misfire, in order to preserve catalytic converter. Do you know if Peugeot ECUs are "so intelligent" to do that? I say that because car goes bad just after throwing all faulty messages, and I know some cars do that.
#6: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:20 pm ---- I would ignore P300 completely, i more than likely just think its a ghost code created by the misfire caused by the other codes
Try another camshaft sensor since there is two codes of this item, and i doubt you have the facility to scope it, so get a second hand one cheap and just replace it
See if the fault clears and the vehicle runs right
#7: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:29 pm ---- Top right back of cylinder head for the cam sensor.
#8: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1 Author: kernel, Location: EarthPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:37 am ---- It's a good point. I'll check CAM sensor. Peugeot Part number is 1920 8W ?
I think is this one:
but how I remove it? Thanks again
#9: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:20 am ---- Not sure on the 180. But on the 138 gti it's on the top back right, it's essentially the same head, so should be the same place.
#10: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: kernel, Location: EarthPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:20 am ---- I removed it and I gave it a good clean.
Refitted again, and still having the problem.
#11: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: kernel, Location: EarthPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:08 pm ---- if I disconnect the cable that reachs to the cam sensor, could I damage the engine in some way?
Do you think its worth a try to get some conclusion?
#12: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: theoldman, Location: ShropshirePosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:34 pm ---- What about the coil pack playing up. Make sure you have a good spark on each plug. Can cause the Ecu to throw up a sensor code.
#13: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: kernel, Location: EarthPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:16 pm ---- as I said its not coil packs.
I bought a new cam sensor, should arrive in some days. Lets see if it works...
If not, I'll try injectors...
#14: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: kernel, Location: EarthPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:20 am ---- Apparently solved - run the car for 15 minutes and everything OK
This confirms that BSI disconnected on purpose some cylinder when getting wrong data, I guess
#15: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:22 am ---- Do an ecu soft reboot if problems persist...see how to guide .......
..this is very likely the fix...and its free
#16: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: Quarmbo, Location: Bristol & LeicesterPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:32 am ----
bezford wrote:
Do an ecu soft reboot if problems persist...see how to guide .......
..this is very likely the fix...and its free
ECU soft reboot? Are you sure. He's already said he's fixed it with the cam sensor.
#17: Re: 206 Gti 180 on 3 cylinders after 2 mins. Codes P0300, P1336 Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:09 am ---- If problems persist... was my advice...it doesnt hurt to do the reboot and sum symptoms were defo sounding reboot connected....if it is and stays sorted good for you...this was for continued troubles but if its fixed then all the better.
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I localized Cam sensor, though I don't know how to remove it for clean. No idea where is Crank sensor 
