#1: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:47 pm ---- Manged to hit some standing water that was fairly deep. I didn't see it in time to slow down.
Car has the engine diagnostics light on.
The air box had water in it.
The filter was damp.
My questions are..
Symptoms:
- Engine Diagnostics light is on.
- Will rev past 4K. I thought Limp home mode won't allow this.
- Feels like I am driving a NON-Turbo.
- Turbo surges sometimes.
- Is it in limp home mode. It revs past 4K ??
- What cable to get (recommended seller) to run Pug Planet off ?? Are the £70 Lexia-3 ones off eBay any good?
Currently have the whole airbox off. making sure there is no water in the intake pipework.
Replacing the Air filter.
Now worst case I have a buggered turbo, due to ingress of Water (it's not compressible)
Worst Worst case, water got into the engine and I have a slightly bent rod (but i am thinking it may not get past the turbo).
Will the Engine Diagnostic need resetting EVEN if I fix the problem??
Need some inspiration.. Feeling a bit down
PUG 205 2.0 Hdi pre-plex '00
(What a awfulll hole to put the airintake.. Is there a mod other than induction kit) Last edited by FizzerUK on Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
#2: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:11 pm ---- 2005? Will be multiplex
#3: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:15 pm ---- Having Bad day adjusted Year. Was thinking of GF's pug..
#4: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: broadblaster, Location: south coastPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:19 pm ---- personly i would just dry out all the parts you are doing, get some water displacing spray/contact cleaner spray all electics you can find and i mean all use the whole can if needed (i find gt 85 quite a good one ) and put it all back togeather and see if its ok and take it from there.
i got a little 1.4 derv on a 04 works van and than has been in water so deep its run in the doors and thats never missed a beat.
#5: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:38 pm ---- I am hoping..
So if Engine Diagnostics light is on. Will it be in LIMP home mode? Does it restrict the Power?
As I said.. Feels like a NON-Turbo, every so often it will surge.
Will this have to be reset, or will it clear it self?
Currently drying out the intake.
It's made of a Fabric material. What's that about. It's soaking wet ???
The plastic covering was ripped so that didn't help.
Going to seal that up.
#6: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: broadblaster, Location: south coastPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:42 pm ---- not sure on the dia light as mine has never come on tbh maybe its surgeing because its not getting the air it needs because the filter is blocked (due to the water in the filter) tbh for what they cost i would just put a new air filter in it.
#7: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:44 pm ---- Have one.. it's going in now
#8: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: broadblaster, Location: south coastPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:47 pm ---- fair play mate as said also try to spray all electics with spray if you can as water in any main plug will not help you. ok you proberly never going to get it all out but the more the better once the car is runing hopefully the heat from engine will dry the rest out over time.
#9: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:18 pm ---- Instead of covering all the electrics in WD-40 or similar why not just disconnect all plugs, dry them and reconnect? Will be much more effective.
#10: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:09 pm ---- The electrics are dry.. I was coming home when it happened.
OK all dried, new filter in. It feels better.
Just hasn't got a surge of the turbo that it did have.
TBJ, as I've only had it a couple on months not sure if the surge of the turbo after 2/2.5K is normal. OR it had issues when I purchased it.
Still doesn't pull as strong.
Just realised there is a Spanner symbol and number next to it when first starting.
Number is 9700 if that means owt to anyone.
EDIT: OK.. that's 9700 miles until service
#11: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: broadblaster, Location: south coastPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:13 pm ---- that is the service indercater mate
#12: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:19 pm ---- Yeah!! I found that out. As I said. it's all new to me No handbook, although just found an on-line one. Reading now
#13: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:52 pm ---- 2.5k revs is when the turbo will kick in. It should feel sluggish till 2.5k then it will pick up when the turbo spools up
I think what your describing is Turbo lag
#14: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:54 pm ---- OK.. Well it deffo don't surge like it used to.
Just pulls from 1K all the way through.
Looks like I still have issues. Going to try and find a garage to read the error.
But at this time of year it's proving to be difficult.
May have to wait until I get a Lexia3 through the post. Been meaning to order one anyway.
#15: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:55 pm ---- It may have surged due to the wet filter restricting airflow
#16: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:57 pm ---- No.. Maybe surge is the wrong word. There was a definite pull after 2.5k BEFORE it got water in the filter.
Now that pull is missing, It still feels a bit limp in power. BUT not like it did before I dried things out.
#17: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: ukskater01, Location: sutton surrey/welwyn garden cityPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:29 pm ---- Where do you live? Someone might be able to have a look if there near to you
#18: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:37 pm ---- Loughborough, Leicestershire. Yeah!! Be good, or even a Lexia3 I can buy..
Don't want another 100 mile motorway journey back to work as it is..
It's un-nerving having that Orange light on.
#19: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: FizzerUK, Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:46 pm ---- OK.. Fixed it. Sort of, waiting for the part.
Tried disconnecting EGR (in case it was stuck) No diff.
Cleaned the MAF. No diff..
Unplugged the MAF. Turbo power is back. I think better than before
NEW MAF it is for me.
#20: Re: Bad!! Damned Rain Author: broadblaster, Location: south coastPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:50 pm ---- fair play mate glad you found the fault.
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