#1: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:52 pm ---- Went out in my 180 the other day got 200m down the road the engine just cut out. Went to start it again and it was a lumpy idle and judders a lot as it ticks over. So had it towed back to my house by a mate. Checked to see if my air intake was blocked but was fine, checked oil etc. but no change.
Had the AA come out today he hooked up the diagnostics and came up with 2 camshaft faults asked me to start up the car. And he said he thinks the cambelt has slipped so the timing is all out. But when he went to show me the fault codes they had gone! He recommended me to change my cambelt as I've done 65000 and no cambelt change.
I'm taking it down to the garage tomorrow to see what they can do, but want to be sure it's the cambelt before I get it changed. Anyone had these problems?
#2: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:55 pm ---- He told you to start it when he thought the cambelt had slipped
It may be the camshaft sensor that has gone worse case is it has slipped hopefully not taking any valves with it
#3: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:02 pm ---- Yer he was not keen on running it for long. And I've had it running for 5 mins or so before I knew what it was.
Can the sensors just go while your driving along. Cause I had no warnings what so ever when it cut out? And don't think any valves have gone well I hope not.
#4: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:04 pm ---- Which garage are you taking it to, just out of interest?
There are few garages I trust in Kiddy, let alone one who knows about 180's!
Cambelt change (+ water pump) needs to be done every 5 years, regardless of mileage
#5: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: L5_UKS, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:07 pm ---- Lets just hope you haven't done more damage after turning it over!
#6: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:15 pm ---- The 180 has the cam sensor in the inlet cam doesn't it? The 138 camshaft sensor is on the exhaust cam. The 138 will run fine without it plugged in but on the 180 with the VVT it likes to know the position of the inlet cam.
#7: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:15 pm ---- I don't know yet I usually take it to a mate who owns his own garage but he's not free and I need it fixing ASAP. I been to offmore before and cooper and chinns. I don't know anywhere that knows what a 180 is. Where you recommend?
Well it might have been changed but can't find anything in the service history saying it has.
#8: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:18 pm ----
lukesaunders91 wrote:
Lets just hope you haven't done more damage after turning it over!
Yer I hope I'm abit of a noob when it comes mechanics!!!
#9: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:23 pm ----
t10101 wrote:
I don't know yet I usually take it to a mate who owns his own garage but he's not free and I need it fixing ASAP. I been to offmore before and cooper and chinns. I don't know anywhere that knows what a 180 is. Where you recommend?
Well it might have been changed but can't find anything in the service history saying it has.
Cooper & Chinns are good, as are Woodhouse Bros. on Oldington (they have built their own racing cars there).
A cambelt change on a 180 isn't an easy job, it'll take about 4hrs or more.
If you can afford to buy the bits yourself (Gates cambelt, plus the correct water pump) then I recommend Lloyds garage down Sandy Lane, Stourport. They're good value and usually have the parts in stock.
#10: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:37 pm ----
Barking wrote:
Cooper & Chinns are good, as are Woodhouse Bros. on Oldington (they have built their own racing cars there).
A cambelt change on a 180 isn't an easy job, it'll take about 4hrs or more.
If you can afford to buy the bits yourself (Gates cambelt, plus the correct water pump) then I recommend Lloyds garage down Sandy Lane, Stourport. They're good value and usually have the parts in stock.
Money is not really a problem it's just time. I'm just not convinced by the aa's diagnostics as the faults went after start up and he did not clear them. So seemed strange to me.
#11: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:11 am ---- Managed to take it down to my girlfriends mates garage said he was going to strip it down and see if the cambelt has slipped a few teeth. Think I'm lucky none of the valves have gone.
My mates brother who had a gti 180 had a similar fault with camshaft faults on diagnostics said it was his lifters that dropped which cost 2 grand to fix so I'm hoping its just the cambelt.
#12: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:14 am ---- Its been stripped down and timing was all over the place. Its been timed back up and its got low compression in cylinder 3?? so its most likely done damage to the engine got no idea how much it will cost. Getting the new belt on tomorrow and we will see what damage it has done.
Not a happy 206 owner at the moment!!
#13: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:49 am ---- If your getting a new belt put in you may aswell take the head off to check the damage of valves, piston. No point wasting a belt if it's got to come off anyway
#14: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:50 am ---- Hes got the low compession on 3 to sort out so heads off no matter what...i guess he meant the head was coming off again anyhow.
#15: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:31 am ---- Been down this morning the head is coming off today. Had a look at the belt no teeth missing and only a few spots on the outside slight discoloured. And it was all in time a part from camshaft gear exhaust was out by about 180 degrees. Camshaft goes round fine so no damage there. We thinking bent valves?
Also the compression test seem low on all of them 100 100 80 and 100. Should be about 170 for gti 180 right?
#16: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:58 pm ---- Head is off and a least one valve is bent getting sent off tomorrow to be fixed and checked over. Also got told some pulley (can't remember which one something beginning with v I think) on the inlet side is lose which may have caused the timing to go out.
#17: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: KrisB, Location: RH5 - Near gatwickPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:01 pm ---- If there was a lose pulley then it'll be the lower crankshaft pulley, the crankshaft pulley for the cambelt is a Floating pulley on the 180's, some people claim it's a pain in the a**e but quite frankly it's not too bad. Non the less it shouldnt slip though. The floating pulley is held in place by tightening up the main bolt with the engine locked, 44nm and about 80 degree to tighten it IIRC.
If there was a lose pulley then it'll be the lower crankshaft pulley, the crankshaft pulley for the cambelt is a Floating pulley on the 180's, some people claim it's a pain in the a**e but quite frankly it's not too bad. Non the less it shouldnt slip though. The floating pulley is held in place by tightening up the main bolt with the engine locked, 44nm and about 80 degree to tighten it IIRC.
Don't think it was the crankshaft pulley, think he said it was the vendor pulley or something like that.
#19: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:27 pm ---- Thought it would have bent a valve
I don't know he never said so I guess they are ok ill ask tomorrow.
#21: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:42 am ---- Sounds like you mean a vernier pulley???there meant to be adjustable but not loose...shouldnt cause valve damage either...maybe he was just mentioning it...
#22: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:06 am ----
bezford wrote:
Sounds like you mean a vernier pulley???there meant to be adjustable but not loose...shouldnt cause valve damage either...maybe he was just mentioning it...
Ah right ok so the vernier pulley can't cause it to go out of time? Seems strange that only the camshaft exhaust gear was the only one out of time.
#23: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Johnbyron, Location: ScunthorpePosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:24 am ---- I didn't think the 180 had a vernier pulley as standard??
Anyway it a vernier pulley is loose the the teeth would just spin around the camshaft wouldn't they ?? Unless of cause there's some sort of fixed block to stop it spining right round if it is loose.
#24: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:13 am ---- Im not sure mate???i know they are used to advance and retard the timing a little to give peak performance but i cant imagine that they would slip or move enough to cause damage...maybe combined with another problem it might knock the timing off enuf to cause damage???
#25: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:19 am ---- Spoke to my mechanic today he says it the dephaser pulley that loose? must of heard him wrong the other day. im guessing that would be the cause of my timing going out?
#26: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:26 am ---- There is no vernier pulley on the 180. Very early 138's had them as standard.
#27: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:32 am ----
Edward wrote:
There is no vernier pulley on the 180. Very early 138's had them as standard.
Yer its not the vernier pulley i heard him wrong on the phone the other night (its what you get when the gf is in your ear aswell). Its the dephaser pulley thats loose
#28: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:36 am ---- Dephaser pulley???????anyone???
#29: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:20 am ---- Only heard of a de-phaser pulley when talking about renault vvt engines, it alters the cam timing when above a certain revs to give more performance.
#30: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:27 am ----
richpowell91 wrote:
Only heard of a de-phaser pulley when talking about renault vvt engines, it alters the cam timing when above a certain revs to give more performance.
Was going to say the 180 doesn't have a dephaser, it's what Renault use
#31: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:34 am ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
richpowell91 wrote:
Only heard of a de-phaser pulley when talking about renault vvt engines, it alters the cam timing when above a certain revs to give more performance.
Was going to say the 180 doesn't have a dephaser, it's what Renault use
Ok cheers for clearing that up, so there's still this mystery loose thing on my car lol looks like i better go down the garage on monday and find out what it is. Might have to go to pug garage after head is fitted.
#32: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:49 am ---- Sure the 180 has a VVT solenoid instead
#33: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:17 am ---- So we can discuss what the pulley is until blue in the face but i have read thru full post and if u refer back to KRIS B's entry about the floating crankshaft pulley u might find that is where the fault lies...maybeKRIS Bcan comment again having read thru???
#34: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:21 pm ---- 180 degrees out and engine won't run.
18 degrees out and it might run but valves probably give loving kisses to your pistons.
My real experience is with Alfas and cambelt failure on their twin cams is a frequent event. On their JTS twin cam engines when valves meeting pistons there can be hidden damage beyond bent valves that isn't immediately obvious.
With those engines the following two things often happens that can't be seen without a full strip:-
1) where the valve hits the top lip of the piston the piston deforms ever so slightly and pinches the top ring. If new pistons aren't fitted a few thousand miles after the repair the compression starts to fall and oil consumption increases.
2) the force of pistons meeting valves "bruises" the big end bearings and again a few thousand miles after the repair oil pressure drops and the engine starts to knock.
I don't wish to frighten you but does anyone here know if the Alfa problems can also affect 180s in the same way?
#35: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:21 pm ----
bezford wrote:
So we can discuss what the pulley is until blue in the face but i have read thru full post and if u refer back to KRIS B's entry about the floating crankshaft pulley u might find that is where the fault lies...maybeKRIS Bcan comment again having read thru???
Were not discussing, where helping the OP as he is getting false information.
Maybe your next post (not just on this thread) could be constructive and helpful
OP basically you need to get some new valves, check for any other damage, check the cam pulleys, new cambelt kit, put it all back together and get it timed correctly
I'd get this done by a garage that knows what there doing with these engine especially aswell, I've seen Clio RS go for a cambelt change and the garages think they can do any vehicle and f*** the timing up!
#36: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:38 pm ---- Mattie rs...if u read the full post yourself youll see that ive actualy turned the thread back to helping the OP out and infact its probly the most helpful thing added since KRIS Bposted originaly...and as for(Not just on this thread)u really need to get your facts right...all those posts dont make u an expert mate...infact theyve clouded your judgement more likely.
If its a battle u want your in the right place startin on me...ive done more good in my 400+posts than your entire time on here...and im sure people that i have managed to help would disagree with your stupid comments like i do...go elsewhere if you cant tell good advice when u see it...and as for your three lines of repeated contrived obvious" help"its as much help at this stage as ash tray on bike...give your head a shake mattie...
#37: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:18 pm ---- If you read back in not one of your posts are helpful, In fact you've mislead the OP with the vernier pulley!!
Unlike mine which I said to check valves - Valves damaged
Helped the OP with mislead information
Advised on what to do to get it repaired
None of which any of your posts have done
I don't need to pick a battle but it's one you'd loose, I've been on this forum since 2008 pretty sure most of my comments have been helpful and majority pretty sure I'd have more people agreeing with me than you but obviously you've more good in your 400+ posts
Go somewhere else if I can't tell good advice, your advice has been bulls**t atleast I've helped
Reason why half the old helpful forum members don't post anymore 'because they have to put up with people like you thinking they know it all
Oh and please learn how to spell and space out words, ends of sentences and try uses the Enter button sometimes
#38: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:23 pm ---- Mattie, I bit as well. I think this is a poster who loves an argument. Be bigger, ignore and move on.
If you want a laugh go onto his profile and have a look at at some of the early posts that he started for himself.
From those type of questions to an expert in three months!
#39: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:27 pm ---- Also in this post he went from suggesting battery to blaming the first mechanic. Good job the OP hadn't gone out and paid for the suggested upgraded battery.
#40: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:31 pm ---- There was no bite just stating the obvious
cheers for that!!
And to think all his 450+ post where more helpful than I've ever been
Glad I've helped the OP on this one tho!!
#41: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:39 pm ---- A guy who would glue a rear 3/4 repair panel over the top of the old one and it isn't even April 1st now telling others how to do stuff. Also telling experienced 206 owners and forum users (I don't count myself there) how to reply to requests for help.
I can glue a repair panel on a caravan can i do it on a car? Think how he would now answer his own question. Imagine what would be going through the MOT testers mind spotting one panel glued over the top of the old one.
No wonder so many of the previous good members are leaving.
#42: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:49 pm ---- Get a life lads...
#43: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:56 pm ---- The child is calling me a lad; I should bow down to the all knowing.
#44: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:02 pm ----
kandlbarrett wrote:
A guy who would glue a rear 3/4 repair panel over the top of the old one and it isn't even April 1st now telling others how to do stuff. Also telling experienced 206 owners and forum users (I don't count myself there) how to reply to requests for help.
I can glue a repair panel on a caravan can i do it on a car? Think how he would now answer his own question. Imagine what would be going through the MOT testers mind spotting one panel glued over the top of the old one.
No wonder so many of the previous good members are leaving.
#45: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:05 pm ---- Yes, Apologies to OP and good luck to OP with cambelt / engine damage.
#46: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:25 pm ---- The fact is that panel over panel is accepted on some jobs and if u had a spark of intelligence between u u would realise that pushing boundries and trying different methods is how we make progress in this world...id like to see u 2 rebuild a caravan.
..u could use your favourite tools and everything...in fact u wouldnt get past the parts order because kandi would describe the dimensions of each and every screw...not to mention the glues and the sandwich cinstruction methods...that would be fascinating im sure...
#47: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:02 pm ---- Pushing boundaries - you have no idea. When you have worked as a design engineer at JET (Joint European Torus) I will let you into the same room to talk about pushing boundaries.
#48: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:03 pm ----
bezford wrote:
The fact is that panel over panel is accepted on some jobs and if u had a spark of intelligence between u u would realise that pushing boundries and trying different methods is how we make progress in this world...id like to see u 2 rebuild a caravan.
..u could use your favourite tools and everything...in fact u wouldnt get past the parts order because kandi would describe the dimensions of each and every screw...not to mention the glues and the sandwich cinstruction methods...that would be fascinating im sure...
Bless!
Speaking of sparks I'm a Electrical contractors, so in bold I do this sort of stuff everyday aswell as designing, installing and testing a installation.
But hey that's nothing on building a caravan.
No more willy waving for me though, I should be researching parts on my race spec
#49: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:04 pm ---- And glued panel over panel will not currently be permitted on a car.
Modern adhesives are amazing but the current Ministry of Transport doesn't recognise them despite how hard the bonding specialists are trying.
#50: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:06 pm ----
kandlbarrett wrote:
Pushing boundaries - you have no idea. When you have worked as a design engineer at JET (Joint European Torus) I will let you into the same room to talk about pushing boundaries.
It would seem we are pretty intelligent
#51: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:08 pm ---- Caravans - Top Gear has the best use for those and it doesn't include rebuilding them.
#52: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:09 pm ---- It's a forum. Who is telling the truth and who is lying? If I rebuilt caravans I would learn to lie! Have a look at my reply about battery charging.
Regards lying I have genuinely worked at JET as a mechanical design engineer.
Also having grown up as the son of a very poor farmer I have also learnt to "make do and mend" (bodge) with the best.
#53: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: KrisB, Location: RH5 - Near gatwickPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:03 pm ---- Wow, now the kids have stopped.... This thread should be cleaned!
I expect that the OP's problem is one of two things, because of a mixup in names.
Ok...
The VVT, Dephaser or whatever pulley wouldnt just fall apart after a cambelt change if it's been done properly. It should of been locked in place before anyone ever thinks about even looking at the belt. Ive not heard of these pulleys failing on the 180 engine, nor on the renaults, but then i dislike renault with a passion, I dont use their forums and hardly ever touch their cars apart from the odd basic 1.2 clio.
The CRANK pulley, or Auxilary pulley, or Bottom pulley, (which your mechanic may of gotten confused with dephaser/cam pulley) Really, i think is most likely to be your problem. I expect that when the pulley was re-fitted, your mechanic hasn't used the correct timing tools (the propper tool for locking the flywheel must be at least £80 as part of a timing kit, and as far as i'm aware only for the 180 engines as per gti180's, 307's etc. I'd say that the 180 engine is a 'rare' engine by standards, not many EW10J4S engines in many cars). Personally i've made my own gti180 flywheel locking tool which is perfectly up to the job and ensures THAT THE CRANKSHAFT TIMING DOES NOT SLIP WHEN THE CRANKSHAFT PULLEY IS TORQUED UP.
I'm not often online, although i do like to try and keep tabs on the treads i post in you'll get speed(ier) replies emailing me through my website.
Kris
#54: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:31 pm ---- Steady on there Kris. in another thread I have recommended your services!
#55: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / TurkeyPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:39 pm ---- What is different gti138 and gti180 locking kit for timings. As I seen bottom pulley fixing is same as gti138. Same block and bottom pulley as used in gti138 and gti138. So difference in head.
VVT pulley have a hole for locking and head also have hole on inlet side for that pulleys locking position.
And exhaust side is same as gti138. A hole on pulley and hole on head. Maybe I'm missing something. What is making special for timing on gti18?. Is there any process on PP2000 for VVT pulley?
#56: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: KrisB, Location: RH5 - Near gatwickPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:02 pm ---- I have to say i'm quite certain that the last EW10J4 (138) used a hole behind starter motor for locking crankshaft, you use the same locking stuff as you do on the XU and DW engines. The crank pulley was also static and held in place by a woodruff key. Correct me if in wrong but i think the slot for the woodruff key on the 138 belt pulley was slightly wider than the woodruff key, allowing for approx half a tooth of timing adjustment either way, its been months and i've worked on many vehicles since.
So, to lockup the EW10J4 (138) you insert a metal bar into the front of the block behind the starter, on the EW10J4S (180) you lock off the flwheel using a locking tool that fits snugly in the BIG hole PSA left on the BACK of the block. And the 180 has no woodruff key in the crankshaft auxilary belt OR cambelt sprocket to prevent it from spinning on the crank. It relies entirely on the tightening process of the main bolt, which should always be replaced.
#57: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:55 pm ---- this poor fellas stillnot had a remedy off anyone???is it just a case of tightening it up but how to do it and time it right etc....im puttin effort into helpin this guy aftyer all the bolloxks that has been spread on his post....good luck man...and cheers kris b for gettin back..and can u suggest a course of action for him....cheers .
#58: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:22 pm ----
bezford wrote:
this poor fellas stillnot had a remedy off anyone???is it just a case of tightening it up but how to do it and time it right etc....im puttin effort into helpin this guy aftyer all the bolloxks that has been spread on his post....good luck man...and cheers kris b for gettin back..and can u suggest a course of action for him....cheers .
Are you really that stupid??
As already said needs new valves, new cambelt kit, cambelt kit to be fitted correctly, 're timed.
None of which you have contributed and none of which as this quote helps him
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pretty sure most of my comments have been helpful and majority pretty sure I'd have more people agreeing with me than you 
just stating the obvious 
cheers for that!! 
no way I missed that.
