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#16: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, Worcs PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:58 pm
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Head is off and a least one valve is bent getting sent off tomorrow to be fixed and checked over. Also got told some pulley (can't remember which one something beginning with v I think) on the inlet side is lose which may have caused the timing to go out.

#17: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: KrisB, Location: RH5 - Near gatwick PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:01 pm
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If there was a lose pulley then it'll be the lower crankshaft pulley, the crankshaft pulley for the cambelt is a Floating pulley on the 180's, some people claim it's a pain in the a**e but quite frankly it's not too bad. Non the less it shouldnt slip though. The floating pulley is held in place by tightening up the main bolt with the engine locked, 44nm and about 80 degree to tighten it IIRC.

#18: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, Worcs PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:10 pm
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KrisB wrote:
If there was a lose pulley then it'll be the lower crankshaft pulley, the crankshaft pulley for the cambelt is a Floating pulley on the 180's, some people claim it's a pain in the a**e but quite frankly it's not too bad. Non the less it shouldnt slip though. The floating pulley is held in place by tightening up the main bolt with the engine locked, 44nm and about 80 degree to tighten it IIRC.

Don't think it was the crankshaft pulley, think he said it was the vendor pulley or something like that.

#19: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;) PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:27 pm
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Thought it would have bent a valve

What condition are the piston in??

#20: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, Worcs PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:51 pm
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Mattie-RS wrote:
Thought it would have bent a valve

What condition are the piston in??

I don't know he never said so I guess they are ok ill ask tomorrow.

#21: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlington PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:42 am
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Sounds like you mean a vernier pulley???there meant to be adjustable but not loose...shouldnt cause valve damage either...maybe he was just mentioning it...

#22: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, Worcs PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:06 am
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bezford wrote:
Sounds like you mean a vernier pulley???there meant to be adjustable but not loose...shouldnt cause valve damage either...maybe he was just mentioning it...

Ah right ok so the vernier pulley can't cause it to go out of time? Seems strange that only the camshaft exhaust gear was the only one out of time.

#23: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Johnbyron, Location: Scunthorpe PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:24 am
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I didn't think the 180 had a vernier pulley as standard??
Anyway it a vernier pulley is loose the the teeth would just spin around the camshaft wouldn't they ?? Unless of cause there's some sort of fixed block to stop it spining right round if it is loose.

#24: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlington PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:13 am
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Im not sure mate???i know they are used to advance and retard the timing a little to give peak performance but i cant imagine that they would slip or move enough to cause damage...maybe combined with another problem it might knock the timing off enuf to cause damage???

#25: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, Worcs PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:19 am
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Spoke to my mechanic today he says it the dephaser pulley that loose? must of heard him wrong the other day. im guessing that would be the cause of my timing going out?

#26: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:26 am
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There is no vernier pulley on the 180. Very early 138's had them as standard.

#27: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, Worcs PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:32 am
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Edward wrote:
There is no vernier pulley on the 180. Very early 138's had them as standard.

Yer its not the vernier pulley i heard him wrong on the phone the other night (its what you get when the gf is in your ear aswell). Its the dephaser pulley thats loose

#28: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlington PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:36 am
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Dephaser pulley???????anyone???

#29: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:20 am
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Only heard of a de-phaser pulley when talking about renault vvt engines, it alters the cam timing when above a certain revs to give more performance.

#30: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;) PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:27 am
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richpowell91 wrote:
Only heard of a de-phaser pulley when talking about renault vvt engines, it alters the cam timing when above a certain revs to give more performance.

Was going to say the 180 doesn't have a dephaser, it's what Renault use



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