#31: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: t10101, Location: kidderminster, WorcsPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:34 am ----
Mattie-RS wrote:
richpowell91 wrote:
Only heard of a de-phaser pulley when talking about renault vvt engines, it alters the cam timing when above a certain revs to give more performance.
Was going to say the 180 doesn't have a dephaser, it's what Renault use
Ok cheers for clearing that up, so there's still this mystery loose thing on my car lol looks like i better go down the garage on monday and find out what it is. Might have to go to pug garage after head is fitted.
#32: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:49 am ---- Sure the 180 has a VVT solenoid instead
#33: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:17 am ---- So we can discuss what the pulley is until blue in the face but i have read thru full post and if u refer back to KRIS B's entry about the floating crankshaft pulley u might find that is where the fault lies...maybeKRIS Bcan comment again having read thru???
#34: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:21 pm ---- 180 degrees out and engine won't run.
18 degrees out and it might run but valves probably give loving kisses to your pistons.
My real experience is with Alfas and cambelt failure on their twin cams is a frequent event. On their JTS twin cam engines when valves meeting pistons there can be hidden damage beyond bent valves that isn't immediately obvious.
With those engines the following two things often happens that can't be seen without a full strip:-
1) where the valve hits the top lip of the piston the piston deforms ever so slightly and pinches the top ring. If new pistons aren't fitted a few thousand miles after the repair the compression starts to fall and oil consumption increases.
2) the force of pistons meeting valves "bruises" the big end bearings and again a few thousand miles after the repair oil pressure drops and the engine starts to knock.
I don't wish to frighten you but does anyone here know if the Alfa problems can also affect 180s in the same way?
#35: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:21 pm ----
bezford wrote:
So we can discuss what the pulley is until blue in the face but i have read thru full post and if u refer back to KRIS B's entry about the floating crankshaft pulley u might find that is where the fault lies...maybeKRIS Bcan comment again having read thru???
Were not discussing, where helping the OP as he is getting false information.
Maybe your next post (not just on this thread) could be constructive and helpful
OP basically you need to get some new valves, check for any other damage, check the cam pulleys, new cambelt kit, put it all back together and get it timed correctly
I'd get this done by a garage that knows what there doing with these engine especially aswell, I've seen Clio RS go for a cambelt change and the garages think they can do any vehicle and f*** the timing up!
#36: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:38 pm ---- Mattie rs...if u read the full post yourself youll see that ive actualy turned the thread back to helping the OP out and infact its probly the most helpful thing added since KRIS Bposted originaly...and as for(Not just on this thread)u really need to get your facts right...all those posts dont make u an expert mate...infact theyve clouded your judgement more likely.
If its a battle u want your in the right place startin on me...ive done more good in my 400+posts than your entire time on here...and im sure people that i have managed to help would disagree with your stupid comments like i do...go elsewhere if you cant tell good advice when u see it...and as for your three lines of repeated contrived obvious" help"its as much help at this stage as ash tray on bike...give your head a shake mattie...
#37: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:18 pm ---- If you read back in not one of your posts are helpful, In fact you've mislead the OP with the vernier pulley!!
Unlike mine which I said to check valves - Valves damaged
Helped the OP with mislead information
Advised on what to do to get it repaired
None of which any of your posts have done
I don't need to pick a battle but it's one you'd loose, I've been on this forum since 2008 pretty sure most of my comments have been helpful and majority pretty sure I'd have more people agreeing with me than you but obviously you've more good in your 400+ posts
Go somewhere else if I can't tell good advice, your advice has been bulls**t atleast I've helped
Reason why half the old helpful forum members don't post anymore 'because they have to put up with people like you thinking they know it all
Oh and please learn how to spell and space out words, ends of sentences and try uses the Enter button sometimes
#38: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:23 pm ---- Mattie, I bit as well. I think this is a poster who loves an argument. Be bigger, ignore and move on.
If you want a laugh go onto his profile and have a look at at some of the early posts that he started for himself.
From those type of questions to an expert in three months!
#39: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:27 pm ---- Also in this post he went from suggesting battery to blaming the first mechanic. Good job the OP hadn't gone out and paid for the suggested upgraded battery.
#40: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:31 pm ---- There was no bite just stating the obvious
cheers for that!!
And to think all his 450+ post where more helpful than I've ever been
Glad I've helped the OP on this one tho!!
#41: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:39 pm ---- A guy who would glue a rear 3/4 repair panel over the top of the old one and it isn't even April 1st now telling others how to do stuff. Also telling experienced 206 owners and forum users (I don't count myself there) how to reply to requests for help.
I can glue a repair panel on a caravan can i do it on a car? Think how he would now answer his own question. Imagine what would be going through the MOT testers mind spotting one panel glued over the top of the old one.
No wonder so many of the previous good members are leaving.
#42: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: bezford, Location: darlingtonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:49 pm ---- Get a life lads...
#43: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:56 pm ---- The child is calling me a lad; I should bow down to the all knowing.
#44: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:02 pm ----
kandlbarrett wrote:
A guy who would glue a rear 3/4 repair panel over the top of the old one and it isn't even April 1st now telling others how to do stuff. Also telling experienced 206 owners and forum users (I don't count myself there) how to reply to requests for help.
I can glue a repair panel on a caravan can i do it on a car? Think how he would now answer his own question. Imagine what would be going through the MOT testers mind spotting one panel glued over the top of the old one.
No wonder so many of the previous good members are leaving.
#45: Re: 206 gti 180 cambelt slip? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:05 pm ---- Yes, Apologies to OP and good luck to OP with cambelt / engine damage.
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pretty sure most of my comments have been helpful and majority pretty sure I'd have more people agreeing with me than you 
just stating the obvious 
cheers for that!! 
no way I missed that.
