#1: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:40 pm ---- Hi Guys,
Just brought myself a 2004 1.4 206 fever with 74k on the clock, I have noticed that the clutch pedal is very high compared to my previous car. Also when driving at about 30-40mph, if I press the throttle to speed up the revs seem to get higher but car doesn't seem to move... :S
I am unsure if the clutch is slipping of maybe the cable is stretched, anyone got any experience or ideas on this please?
Thanks
Austin
#2: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: cartoonhead, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:07 pm ---- if the revs climb and the speed is not picking up then chances are its clutch slip
#3: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:24 pm ---- go up a hill and watch the revs dial,if it's goes up,and hear the engine sound get higher with the power of the car is not as supposed to be,then you have a slipping clutch,it's a very simple test,better with load in car.
#4: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:28 pm ---- Thanks for replies...
I think it is the clutch slipping, I was driving home earlier gave abit of throttle to speed up and the revs went higher but speed didn't seem to increase :/ has anyone got a rough estimation on costs to have this replaced?
#5: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Dan-, Location: BiggleswadePosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:37 pm ---- i wouldnt imagine its would cost alot, i know i had mine changed in my 180 but i didnt end up having to pay anything so i cant say on labour, but i did drop the gearbox on my drive to make sure the garage changed my flywheel and it took me about 2 hours i think, including tidying up so your looking at 2hours labour at a good garage
#6: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:56 pm ---- Ok thanks, it should be easier with a 1.4 I guess... I might give it ago myself tbh, my dad is a mechanic and handy with the tools. Has anyone changed a clutch before? is there a 'How-to' or a guide somewhere that I could work off?
#7: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Dan-, Location: BiggleswadePosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:05 pm ---- i had to remove the clutch the get to the flywheel, it really isnt that hard, the hardest bit of laying on your back trying to locate the box, its not the heaviest thing in the world but after awhile it feels like lifting a car on your chest ha, you only need basic tool to do the job and its pretty straight forward job even for maby a novice i would say
#8: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:09 pm ---- Right ok, I can get hold of an engine hoist so maybe use this to take up the weight of the box. What about the bolts to remove the box, aren't they them stupid reverse torx bolts? Also will I need to replace any seals or gearbox fluid?
#9: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Dan-, Location: BiggleswadePosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:17 pm ---- yeah even better of you can have the use of 1 of them, i used a trolly jack under the engine, tbh i cant wactually remember the type of bolts, i think they were sockets for some reason, i did it in early 2012 so my memory is shocking ha,
you will need to drain it im afraid as the seconds them shafts come out you get covered in it! but its only cheap at £20 or so
i didnt have no seal on mine, so its quite a cheap job
#10: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:23 pm ---- Thanks alot for your help Dan! French manufacturers usually use them stupid reverse torx's so you have to take it to a garage, i'll thrash a socket on the end if needs be! lol I'll look into getting some gearbox fluid aswell, normally takes about 2-3 litres if memory serves me right. Cheers
#11: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Dan-, Location: BiggleswadePosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:25 pm ---- No problem i know they like them reverse torx bits, i brought a full set of them when i got my 1st pug and i think i ended up using them about 5 times and got them 4 years ago "/ least the dont round off!
#12: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:40 pm ---- Ideally you'd use an engine support beam when the gearbox is being taken off. Trolley jack under the engine isn't ideal.
Ideally you'd use an engine support beam when the gearbox is being taken off. Trolley jack under the engine isn't ideal.
really agree with you, i just didnt have 1 i could borrow, i thought i had been fobbed off by the garage as they couldnt show me my old flywheel so i had no choice but to check myself that evening before it was to late to go back,
jack and a plank of wood see me through
#14: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:56 pm ---- Or you could do it like a main stealers and just let the engine hang as ive seen some people do it
(206's mainly due to the rear engine mount)
#15: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:40 am ---- Just got a quote on having the clutch replaced at £185, which I think is a bargain of a price. Does this sound reasonable? Last edited by Austin on Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:22 am; edited 1 time in total
#16: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Dan-, Location: BiggleswadePosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:33 am ---- If that's including the clutch,?pressure plate and bearing yeah that's sounds reasonable to me!
#17: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:21 am ---- 3 piece clutch kit inc labour, I was surprised when they quoted that! think i'll get it booked in next week, saves me freezing my nads off doing it lol
#18: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm ---- make sure it's a good quality kit,you don't need something to cause u headache..lol
#19: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:29 pm ---- Clutch been replaced today at the garage, it's like a new'un now the garage said they had a right game getting the box off, took them 2 days to get it done. Glad I never attempted it myself now! Lol thanks for your help guys
#20: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: olly, Location: west midsPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:53 am ----
Austin wrote:
Clutch been replaced today at the garage, it's like a new'un now the garage said they had a right game getting the box off, took them 2 days to get it done. Glad I never attempted it myself now! Lol thanks for your help guys
Hi bud is the pedal a lot lower now since the clutch was changed,?
as my girls car is high and just had new clutch fitted,also the cable adjuster had gone so had the cable replaced to,1.4. £170 for clutch fitted and think £80 fitted for cable.cheers olly
#21: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:33 pm ---- Yes it's lower now, feels like a normal car now. Before it was slipping when accelerating aswell but no problem now. £180 for clutch replacement, good price!
#22: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: olly, Location: west midsPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:17 pm ---- Hi going to ring the garage that fitted it as it seems odd that it's so high,it's on last bite of the pedal .Can anything else cause the pedal to be so high? cheers
#23: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:26 pm ---- If you have had new clutch then it should be lower, maybe the cable is slack and auto adjuster not working correctly? :S
#24: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: olly, Location: west midsPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:40 am ---- Booked it back in for this week for them to check it out. New cable was fitted,I'm wondering if just cable was changed as it was not adjusting and could of been causing it to slip? Even tho we paid for both to be changed.
The pedal is the same before the clutch was changed.
#25: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: olly, Location: west midsPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:17 pm ---- Took the car back and they told me they adjusted the pedal lower,can't say i noticed any difference to be honest .I thought the cable clutch was auto adjust and this was not possible?,but what do i know...
Olly
#26: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:12 pm ---- I think they are auto adjust, like a ratchet system. Think they trying to fob you off tbh mate. This is why I don't really trust garages and try to do as much as possible myself :/
#27: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: olly, Location: west midsPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:23 am ---- Yeah same here bud,I just did full service myself this week. It's ok because they have the car back every so many miles on the clock to check everything with the clutch,and I will mention auto adjust to him and see what he says. Olly
#28: Re: Clutch Slipping? Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:39 am ---- You can try to force it to adjust.
Press the pedal to the floor then slip your foot sideways off the pedal so that the pedal flies back towards you - get your leg out of the way because it will hurt if it hits you in the shin. That is sometimes enough to force the autoadjust to do its job.
Only issue with this is that a new cable with a new clutch definitely should NOT need this.
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