#1: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:43 pm ---- okay guys installing an alarm as mine dont have one wondering if any one could give me some help
after doing a lot of looking around on the internet seems like my best place to wire the alarm into is the bsi unit instead of installing it into each unit
so my question to you all is does any one know the bsi wiring for a
peugeot 206 lx 1.9d 1998 5 door hatchback v reg
thanks all
#2: Re: Alarm wiring Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:58 pm ---- Don't go near the bsi! More than likely you'll short something, more value than the whole car probably, no Offence intended
#3: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:01 pm ---- explain i only wanna know the wire numbers so i can spur it on the alarm dont think i can cause that much damage if some one knows what wires i need to connect to surly
#4: Re: Alarm wiring Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:01 pm ---- Without knowing which circuits you want to connect into it's a bit pointless asking people to help.
If you say what you want to connect to, I may dig out my wiring diagrams tomorrow and tell you which number wires you need to connect to.
A Haynes manual would probably be a good investment for you.
EDIT. You can cause quite a lot of damage to the BSI if something goes wrong, but it will only be like connecting at various points of the car like the horn and headlights. I understand why you want to go behind the BSI to connect up though. Just make sure you disconnect the battery first, do one wire at a time, make the connection using solder and insulate straight away with heat shrink sleeving. You shouldn't have any problems that way.
#5: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:40 pm ---- okidoki here we go then
negative door input or there's a positive doorninput
NOTE: Lists refer to "12-way blue" when they mean "12-way brown" (#2 on the positions diagram below which is correct).
This is a confirmed PP2000 mistake.
Level B1:
Level B2 (+B1):
Level B4 (+B1, +B2):
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#8: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:47 am ---- hey again guys i need your help as this is coming tomorrow and i want to get it installed the main things i want wiring in are
central locking
indercators
foot brake switch
interior light switch
ultrasonic sensors
shock sensor
and the led
i can find connections for all these the rest of the wires i need a bit of help on are as follows
the wire that goes to the ac fan i was thinking as the alarm has a votage monitor built in this could be for that reason that when the car is alarmed if the engine fan kicks on then the volts are gonna drop and this could set it off but im not sure as it says ac fan not engine fan might sounds stupid to you lot but i wanna make sure i have all the info i can
the alarm im getting is a hawk 280 pro please dont shout it down its gonna do the job i want it for and its cheap
i dont want the imobaliser as the car already has one and i dont want to install the remote engine start at the moment this may change in time if any one would be so kind as to have a look at the wiring diagram online and tell me what wires i dont need to use this would be great thanks in advanced for all help
#9: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:51 am ---- sorry just to add i also dont want to wire in the following
hand brake cable
boot release
window closer
thanks guys for any help you can give me
#10: Re: Alarm wiring Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:38 am ---- Wait until you get the alarm and then look at the instructions. Many of them allow for the fan kicking in and give instructions on what to do if your cars fan comes on after the ignition is off.
#11: Re: Alarm wiring Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:38 pm ---- See a specialist.
It will save you a hell of a hassle and money in the long run.
#12: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:50 pm ---- thats the thing dont have any money atm thats why im doing it all my self iv been doing work on cars for a long time but this is my first pug and its confusing the hell outta me
i was gonna wire in the alarm to the interior light but as its a delayed light and not instant its gonna keep telling the alarm the doors are still open till the light fades so now i have to find a nother alternative which is p**sing me off as i cant for love nor life work out were the hell i can wire it too
i dont have deadlocking which is one bonus in regards to wiring in the alarm but i cant work out what wire does the door switch and if i need to wire it to each door as i dont think its a complete circuit is it each door goes back to the bsi rather than it just being all on one circuit
please help me peeps i know its gonna be a good idea to wait till tomorrow but i wanna get peoples ideas in so im not alone and can try different ways of fitting the damm thing
#13: Re: Alarm wiring Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:41 am ---- Bump, added note in red and position diagram of connectors at the begining.
#14: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:40 am ---- Guys sorry to bring this up again seem to have a problem and I can't get any volts on the drivers or passanger door contact switch open or closed doors and I need to wire the back doors in to which I'm told are split at the back of the car and should have one output from the bsi unit
Also I want to wire in the imboaliser as well weres the best place to wire the relay on the bsi unit
Thanks for your help folks
#15: Re: Alarm wiring Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:49 am ---- The relay is best wired in series with the red button in the engine bay (emergency cut-out switch) I would NOT touch anywhere else for this function tbh. You will have to make it discreet obviously.
The rear doors, does the courtesy light come-on when you open either of them?
Do the locks bounce if any of the two doors are not shut properly?
I can't remember it being split rear/front.
If you ask Monsieur BSI or Macca, they might put-up a diagram though..
#16: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:41 am ---- I can't wire it to the engine cut of as it don't have one which is strange but every other one iv looked at at the scrappy don't either the diesels just don't have them so I'm still not sure we're to wire the imbaliser lol.
And the bsi has from passanger door switch and passanger which is ment to be live till the door opens then goes to a neg circute but there's no volts on either connection which is strange but if I go strait to the doors there's power :-\:-\:-\
And I can't wire it to interior light as it has a fade diaode and makes the alarm think the doors are still open
Thanks for trying to help still stumped on this one ????
#17: Re: Alarm wiring Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:57 am ---- No I did not mean wire it to the light under any circumstances.
Just trying to find out if there is signal getting to the BSI from the door lock..
Ah, diesel might not have cut-out switch even though only non-mux cars have it which I know yours is.
'Don't know much about diesels.
The only other place would be the multi-relay underneath the ECU. This controls injectors, fuel pump etc. and effectively the same thing.
This is an involved job because you have to find the coil lines and I think it's a dual unit as well, so you have to interupt the first one (master).
#18: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:02 am ---- Oh right yeah there's a signal there mate and you on about the repay that runs the glows because so far iv stripped a lot of stuff away and have yet to find the ecu lol
#19: Re: Alarm wiring Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:12 am ----
scottiedickins wrote:
Oh right yeah there's a signal there mate and you on about the repay that runs the glows because so far iv stripped a lot of stuff away and have yet to find the ecu lol
What's the VIN number?
Some 1.9 diesel 206's don't have an engine ecu fitted as they don't actually need one.
#20: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:22 am ---- If I rember right it's wiz or wzj somthing like that
#21: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:26 pm ---- Yeah just check WJZT
#22: Re: Alarm wiring Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:18 pm ---- VIN number is the chassis number of the car and can be found on the near-side windscreen tag at the bottom.
#23: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:17 am ---- Is there any one that can help ?
#24: Re: Alarm wiring Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:20 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
scottiedickins wrote:
Oh right yeah there's a signal there mate and you on about the repay that runs the glows because so far iv stripped a lot of stuff away and have yet to find the ecu lol
What's the VIN number?
Any reason you don't want to give your VIN?
#25: Re: Alarm wiring Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:57 am ----
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
scottiedickins wrote:
Oh right yeah there's a signal there mate and you on about the repay that runs the glows because so far iv stripped a lot of stuff away and have yet to find the ecu lol
What's the VIN number?
Any reason you don't want to give your VIN?
I've lost interest now.
#26: Re: Alarm wiring Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:38 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
scottiedickins wrote:
Oh right yeah there's a signal there mate and you on about the repay that runs the glows because so far iv stripped a lot of stuff away and have yet to find the ecu lol
What's the VIN number?
Any reason you don't want to give your VIN?
I've lost interest now.
Me two.
#27: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:23 pm ---- I don't like the idea of putting my vin number out on the net iv told you guys it's wjz which is the bit that tells you what car it is. I don't understand why you have lost intrest but thanks anyways I guess I'll go it alone
#28: Re: Alarm wiring Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:54 pm ---- The last 6 of the VIN can help with build codes, so having the full VIN can make finding the answer easier for those people offering to help.
Your VIN is visible to everyone who walks past your car, but if it concerns you that much you could always of PMd one of the people who offered some help. As it stands now 2 of the most knowledgeable members on the forum have lost interest in helping you.
#29: Re: Alarm wiring Author: scottiedickins, Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:06 pm ---- That's fair enough but unless some one explains I'm not a mind reader I can't guess these things but thanks for the knowlodge now I'm just gonna go it alone now got some good contacts who are local who are willing to help so thanks anyways
#30: Re: Alarm wiring Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:20 pm ---- You need the VIN to get the build code to get the correct wiring diagram as it varies upon several factors such as engine code, ECU, BSI version, and electrical system.
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