#1: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:19 pm ---- Hi guys been on the forum for a while but don't really post much up. Iv got a 1.4 HDI i brought in august with 74k with plans of tuning and charge cooling. Loads of pictures to follow hope you like it....
The day i brought it driving it back from Luton to Bristol
Took the brakes of for a clean and saw they where pretty thin so thought id treat my self to GTI brakes and beam
Remapped it up to 85BHP print outs linked, goes pretty good for a 1.4 !!! very very happy with it.
Being human i wanted more so de-cat, it did make a little difference by reducing lag and allowing us to do some more tuning up to 95BHP no print outs for this at the moment. No pictures of this as there on my mates phone but ill put them up one day.
Clutch seemed like it was on its way out then started slipping when i had a full car, so with the future in mind got a paddle clutch(left ones for the 1.4HDI the right ones for my mates 2.0HDI)
Wanted to get rid of the standard turbo box as it just looked boring plus the plans of the charge cooler to come so i brought a few pipes and reducers and lathed a 3" bar of alloy down to make the turbo flange. Fitted it and it looks good, don't think there is any performance difference maybe a little less lag as the box has a baffle plate but nothing special.
Brought a charge cooler, radiator and the Bosch water pump, this will be my next project to plumb it and go stage 2.
future plan are hybrid turbo straight through pipe. Ill keep you up dated.
#2: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: PezHdi, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:25 pm ---- This is Awsome I'm currently working on a 2.0 Hdi and got my map from Steve too
Will look forward to upadates on this project big thumbs up
#3: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:12 pm ---- Thanks glad you like it, not sure how im going to jam the charge cooler in.
Yeah steves my brother so unlimited map work. Still very surprised about how powerful a 1.4 can be, spins the hole way through second in the wet, not much but for a 1.4!!
#4: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:08 am ---- liking what you've done so far! really interested in this as i'm a bit of a 1.4HDi fan so will be interested what the baby derv can do. Keep us posted.
whats make is the paddle clutch and whats it like to drive round on?
PS. One of my favorite colours on your 206.
#5: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:01 am ---- I think its a panther but ill have to double check. Is good once you've got going but wouldn't recommend it unless your going to be tuning it. Took a while to bed in as it ceramic but its getting better/im getting used to it.
Iv also fitted EGT and Inlet temperature probes. Plus boost gauge. Will put some pictures up one day.
#6: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:06 am ---- i remember steves post on when he got his hands on the 1.4 for tuning purposes (im guessing yours) and said they ran hellish high EGTs but gave no figures as such.
I reckon by removing the CAT and making the exhaust straight through would help. Defo interested in how you have installed these on you car. hopefully that one day is soon!
#7: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: sicskate, Location: Margate, KentPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:55 am ---- Nice to see another 1.4hdi
I've a 307 1.4hdi, I'd like a map, but I live too far from Steve.
I may wait until I don't need the car for a week, then I guess I could post him my ecu?
#8: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:09 am ---- Yeah you could always post your ecu down. If you do next day before 12 he can get it and send it back up the next day.
If some ones interested in the fitment of the Temperature probes ill take some pictures as soon as i get a chance.
#9: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:08 am ---- Got some pictures of the temperature probes, just drilled and tapped them in to the exhaust and inlet. I have the gauges in the glove box which can be linked to the computer to record it thought a drive.
#10: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:53 am ---- Fitted the pre rad for the charge cooler today, think im going to need a smaller charge cooler as there is no way of it fitting without a bonnet scoop.
The rad as it comes, it has a hole for the thermostat and some random lump of plastic on it.
Plugged the thermostat hole with a thermostat out of an old car.
Got the Dremel out and cut the lump off the side to make it thinner.
After alot of trial and error i made a bracket up (is green because that was the only paint i had to hand and you cant see it anyway)
Mounted on the other end by screwing straight into the plastic front and drilled a massive hole to fit the bleed pipe through into the engine bay.
Looks pretty good with the bumper on just need to find another smaller charge cooler.
Any ideas on charge coolers, what cars come standard with them ?
#11: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: TelaKeppi, Location: FinlandPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:24 am ---- I'm dying to hear about this project, since adding a regular intercooler to non-intercooled car is instant MOT failure around here. I've been thinking about this chargecooler painted black right after the turbo with small 90 degree turns. Unfortunately, it's rather expensive and I'd like to see some actual results before I go for it
#12: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:12 pm ---- Still in the process of looking for a cooler which will fit, should be soon.
Ill measure it up this time !
Glad your interested, hopefully you'll fine away around the mot problem:/
#13: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:49 pm ---- defo following this and see what the 1.4 can do. i fancied intercooling mine but try to keep a little OEM though. damn PAS pump being in the way though.
#14: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:29 pm ---- Fit an electric PAS pump then. If it fits!
#15: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:44 pm ---- Will probably be able to fit electric PAS but what will i gain from that?
#16: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:36 am ---- I was referring to southwestchaps comment about the PAS pump being in the way.
#17: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:12 am ---- Yea ive beening looking into it and seeing what the best route to use for the PAS.
Benefit is that you could use the IC setup from a 1.6hdi 206 to keep OEM.
#18: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:00 pm ---- I guess i could work if i brought a barrel cooler. Then put it across the engine.
#19: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: TelaKeppi, Location: FinlandPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:51 am ---- That's the way I've been envisioning it. The smallest AVT Barrel chargecooler should fit, but bending the pipes could be an issue. I'll have to make cardboard model to see how it fits. A real bonus would be if it fits under the OEM engine cover to make it look completely stock.
#20: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:01 pm ---- Just got my wheels back from powder coating, never been so happy. Cant wait to get them fitted !!!!!!!
#21: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: PezHdi, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:14 pm ---- Very very nice What colour are theses and what size? Looking good tho :]
#22: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:19 am ---- They are 16/205/... from a 307 with 195/45 tyres on them.
Colour is light anthracite, just waiting on the spacers so they don't rub on the struts then they will be on !!!
#23: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: PezHdi, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:55 am ---- Brilliant what size spacers you going for?
Are you or have you lowered the car?
#24: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:31 pm ---- Got 20mm spacers hopefully turn up tomorrow. The GTI axle i brought is lowered i think, but im going to lower the front on 35mm springs then refurbish the rear axle/set it to an appropriate height.
#25: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: PezHdi, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:29 pm ---- Sounds like a plan mate :] I went to IM axle to have mine refurbed and they were brilliant
let me no how you get on with the 20 mm spacers as i want some but dont no how much to go by, dont want no scrubbing :] Nice updates mate :] Keep it up :]
#26: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:20 am ---- Yeah hopefully the spacers will turn up today as im going to be sat by the door waiting
Iv watched enough videos and think i should be fine refurbishing the axle if not i know i guy which replaces the bearings so ill take it down to him.
#27: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:46 pm ---- Haven't updated for a while as not much as gone on due to me being skint. Wheels are fitted and i am going to refurbish the axle some time in the week when i get a couple of free days.
These pictures are with 20mm spacers all round, took the 20mm off of the front but left them on the back.
Thinking of lifting the back up when i change the bearings, as the beam i brought is fairly low.
#28: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:03 am ---- Refurbed the axle but dint take any decent pictures as I was fairly busy all day. So much nicer to have the back end not creaking every time someone gets in the back.
#29: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: sicskate, Location: Margate, KentPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:13 am ---- How's Steve getting on with the 95bhp map?
#30: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:00 am ---- All is well, booked in for the rollers on Saturday afternoon.
#31: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: sicskate, Location: Margate, KentPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:24 am ---- How did the rr go?
#32: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:19 am ---- Never went in the end, just looking for a reasonably price RR.
Ordered loads of stuff for the new charge cooler, started insulating the manifold, turbo and down pipe to reduce heat soak as much as possible.
#33: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:05 pm ---- Started insulating the turbo and manifold to reduce heat soak once the cooler is in.
Still need to take it to the rollers on stage one before i fit the cooler.
Got a hole bunch of pipe work and fittings ready to put it all together.
#34: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: PezHdi, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:53 pm ---- Nice dude :] looks pretty cool, Notto keen on the red pipes but each to there own.
Cool charger looks really cool I bet you cant wait to get it on
#35: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:12 am ---- Going for black pipes when i fit the charge cooler, going to try fit it under the engine cover. cant wait to see what power we can get from it.
#36: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: PezHdi, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:18 am ---- Yeah it will be interesting what kind of power you expecting and what other plans have you got for future modifications?
#37: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:38 am ---- Not sure what boost the turbo will be able to run before if cooks. Might need to put an oil cooler on but hopefully not.
Might put bigger injectors in....
Maybe see if the VVT from the 1.6HDI is an easy modification. If not get bigger turbo from something else.
Thanks for thew interest and i have no idea what power i will get out of is hopefully 120 but i think that's a bit optimistic?
#38: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: PezHdi, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:15 pm ---- Well I'm very intrested in these engines to be honest ad I have one my self bit mines the 2.0 version
Do you no what turbo you have?
A oil cooler would proberly be a wise choice if you pushing it mate
It be interesting to see what it will produced.
#39: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:56 pm ---- My turbo is a KP35 about the size of my hand, not even joking !
What have you tuned your 2.0 hdi up to?
And with regards to the oil cooler ill have to look at the oil temps first, water temp never goes over 80 unless im in traffic.
#40: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: PezHdi, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:42 pm ---- yeah i would look in to oil temp, as for the turbo im sure you can find an upgrade. Just depends on what the actual engine can take.
Mine dosnt go much over 80 as well to be honest
Its runing 120 Bhp and 292 Nm RR proven atm.
Got many more plans for it to be fair for a bigger turbo/hybrid, R70 pump, new injectors so on so on :]
But before all of that i need to replace top mounts and get it tracked up and reset the camber as iv just put 0.5 neg bushes in to wishbones.
#41: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:40 am ---- Not done an update in a very long time, not done much just bits and bobs
Heat wrapped the down pipe and insulated turbo/manifold
Also completely removed the egr (already removed from ecu). Used a blanking plate from eBay and then made a plug for the inlet manifold.
I then wanted to get rid of the air box in preparation for fitting the charge cooler, the only way I could get it out the way was to put a cone filter on. This meant that the header tank would have to be moved. The only option I could think of for moving the header tank was to use the tank from the 2.0 hdi and make up a bit of my own pipe work.
I then found a reducer to take the maf down to the compressor housing and mounted the cone filter with a metal bar going down to the bell housing.
Then needed to sort the oil breather out so made a oil catch tank up and managed to squeeze the pipe in behind the boost pipes.
Thanks for looking, hopefully have more updates soon.
#42: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: sicskate, Location: Margate, KentPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:33 pm ---- Very cool, how does it sound with the air filter?
#43: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:09 pm ---- Much loader, and lots more whistle to the turbo.
#44: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: southwestchap, Location: DevonPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:01 am ---- great bits and pieces done on the car chap... all looking to be on the right lines. interested in seeing where this goes. much more difference with removing the air box and the box between the turbo and engine? what power of map are you running at the moment?
#45: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:22 am ---- Running it at 95bhp Need to get it on the rolling road soon.
#46: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: commandosqueak, Location: Lower SlaughterPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:36 am ---- Any update with this project yet? im looking at doing the same to mine so will be interesting to see where this goes
#47: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:25 am ---- Sadly no progress. Moved to university so the car is parked up at home. Thinking about ditching the charge cooler idea and fit a twin pass intercooler to the front.
#48: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: commandosqueak, Location: Lower SlaughterPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:59 am ---- gutted was looking forward to it. im back to uni shortly so i wont be doing anything till the summer.
Twin pass intercooler would be awesome but where the hell would you put it? and where would you put the piping?
#49: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:42 am ---- That is the big question.... I have a few ideas but iv not measured it up yet.
If I went for the charge cooler the only place it could have been was sat on the exhaust manifold so not to great.
#50: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: commandosqueak, Location: Lower SlaughterPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:52 pm ---- Ive been thinking about loads of possibilities, my current thought is to move the battery and coolent bottle and putting it there.
#51: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: 14hdi, Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:26 pm ---- Iv already moved the coolant bottle but if you move the battery your going to end up with loads of pipe work so might as well get an intercooler.
#52: Re: 1.4 HDI charge cooler build HDI-tuning. lots of pictures Author: KeepHerLitTed, Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:28 am ---- Any update on this build??
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I'm currently working on a 2.0 Hdi and got my map from Steve too 
was looking forward to it. im back to uni shortly so i wont be doing anything till the summer.
