#1: 40 miles to £10 Author: bikesforme, Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:26 am ---- My 2001 1.4 8v petrol 206 is only doing 40 miles to £10 on my daily 2 mile trip to work, it is mainly 20-30 mph trip but i dont get stuck still in traffic. I would of thought i should get more then this, i think its well poor for a 1.4.
The car has had loads spent on it, complete exahust and cat with new cat lambda sensor, all serviced new oils, filters, coolant, timing belt, water pump, thermostat,plugs. Tyre pressures checked and ok , brakes are not sticking car runs lovely and ticks over at 750rpm.
What can i do next has i dont think the car has a mass air flow sensor, its done 131000 miles.
#2: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:32 am ---- If you have checked and replaced all those things then it only leaves the MAP sensor really, just check that and give it a clean. Do the same to the throttle body aswell, I did this for peace of mind the other week, was surprised how much carbon was on the butterfly valve. Use this how-to, to clean it... CLICKY
#3: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: bikesforme, Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:00 am ----
Austin wrote:
If you have checked and replaced all those things then it only leaves the MAP sensor really, just check that and give it a clean. Do the same to the throttle body aswell, I did this for peace of mind the other week, was surprised how much carbon was on the butterfly valve. Use this how-to, to clean it... CLICKY
Will give that a go when i get time next week, great read up. I did not change the pre cat lambda sensor so perhaps that might be worth doing to.
Any idea what i should be getting from the car for a £10 of fuel, i could of brought a 1.4 hdi for what i have spent on it. My partner has one of them, but to be honest the petrol is a better car , its faster, smother, and less engine noise.
#4: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:01 am ---- Im not surprised, 2 mile trips wont even be getting of the warm up cycle.
Short trips like that will drink fuel & ruin the engine in the long term, buy a bicycle.
#5: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:11 am ---- Wish mine did that
#6: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,WarwickshirePosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:16 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Im not surprised, 2 mile trips wont even be getting of the warm up cycle.
Short trips like that will drink fuel & ruin the engine in the long term, buy a bicycle.[/quote
Think he/
She already has a bike judging by the user
#7: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: bikesforme, Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:54 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Im not surprised, 2 mile trips wont even be getting of the warm up cycle.
Short trips like that will drink fuel & ruin the engine in the long term, buy a bicycle.
The shifts and hours i work, plus lack of sleep between shifts, last thing i wont is to push bike to work. I have been working these shifts for 5 years now and never had any problems with my cars, just thought the pug 1.4 would be a lot better then my subaru impreza turbo. And its not that much better.
#8: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:00 pm ---- So £10 lasts 10 days. I wouldn't worry about that. Doing runs of 2 miles is going to ruin your fuel economy.
It's plainly obvious why your fuel economy isn't brilliant. It's roughly 26mpg which is about right.
#9: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: Necro, Location: BedfordshirePosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:02 pm ---- I only get around 55 miles to a tenner but mine is the GTi 138 model.
#10: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: bikesforme, Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:28 pm ----
Edward wrote:
So £10 lasts 10 days. I wouldn't worry about that. Doing runs of 2 miles is going to ruin your fuel economy.
It's plainly obvious why your fuel economy isn't brilliant. It's roughly 26mpg which is about right.
Putting £10 in every 2-3 days, with running around and going to work, not far off what i put in my 300bhp impreza.
#11: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:24 pm ---- May be worth changing the thermostat.
All the above comments aren't far off with these cars. 2 miles isn't far enough to get the engine warm especially in this weather.
Have you had the car long? Is it much worse now than in the summer?
My daughters 1.4LX 8V does about 31 - 33 on 5 mile journeys.
Have a look at fuelly.com and you will see that the 1.4 8V is not an economical town car. Then none are when they are driven as you are forced to do. With your short mileage you need something 1.1 or less (maybe consider a modern scooter or electric bike) or as you now know get a real performance car for only a small hit on consumption.
If you take it to a garage they will do an emmissions test for a very small fee. There probably isn't any point changing any sensors or other components (except thermostat) if it passes the emmissions test.
#12: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:46 pm ----
bikesforme wrote:
Edward wrote:
So £10 lasts 10 days. I wouldn't worry about that. Doing runs of 2 miles is going to ruin your fuel economy.
It's plainly obvious why your fuel economy isn't brilliant. It's roughly 26mpg which is about right.
Putting £10 in every 2-3 days, with running around and going to work, not far off what i put in my 300bhp impreza.
Why keep putting £10 in all the time? Put at least half a tank in instead of p**sing about coppering up and squeezing less than a couple of gallons in.
#13: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:49 pm ---- A lighter car will be more economical if only a little.
I couldn't be bopthered with £10 at a time. Though that is easier to say when money isn't tight or, like me, you fill the tank 3 times a week at £70 a go.
#14: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: bikesforme, Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:11 pm ---- Thermostat been changed when i replaced timing belt along with coolant and water pump. I have only been putting £10 in at a time these last few weeks so i can compare my mpg sooner then filling it up.
Seeing these 1.4 petrol pugs are not that good around town or short journeys, how do they compare on longer trips.
#15: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:23 pm ---- The only way to do accurate mpg calculation is brim full to brim full. A tiny miscalculation on fuel used and based on £10 that could be several mpg out. Brim the tank; use almost all of it and then brim the tank again.
Divide the litres by 4.54 to get gallons used.
Then divide the miles driven by gallons used.
That will give you an accurate miles per gallon.
Do not base your calculations on miles driven and estimate of fuel used.
#16: Re: 40 miles to £10 Author: kandlbarrett, Location: SwindonPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:27 pm ---- Regards miles on longer trips that will depend on your driving style and how patient you can be. If you drive on the motorway at about 80mph then you will be around 30mpg but that still depends on how you use the throttle, take advantage of hills or brake hard.
You need to remember that the 1.4 8V is an engine design that is probably 20 years old and maybe more and, I suspect, the ecu programme won't have been reviewed or updated for almost as long.
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