#1: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: Clifford, Location: HampshirePosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:04 pm ---- Hi,
Found out the gauge on my 206 is a little out and ran out of diesel, put some in and she started and worked fine for a day or two and now is not starting.
Is there a possibility I have some air bubble in the fuel line? do I need to do anything specific? no lights on.
Thanks in advance,
#2: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: broadblaster, Location: south coastPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:19 pm ---- if it starts and runs you could just fire it up and then crack the nuts on the injectors and bleed it out that way.
sorry just reread you post again and see its not starting if the battery is good do the same as above but use the starter to crank it over while bleeding or you may have sucked up the crap in the bottom of tank and blocked the filter
#3: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: Clifford, Location: HampshirePosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:13 pm ---- probably worth mentioning it was sat up for 24 hours after a long run (125 miles) before it wouldn't start. Could air be getting in the line?
#4: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:42 pm ---- If there was air in the system, you need to prime it a few times before you start the engine. Im not sure if your model also has a hand pump in the engine bay?
#5: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:32 pm ---- These engines suffer from a common fault of the air box rubbing through a couple of plastic fuel pipes that run underneith the box. As said above try pumping up the hand primer on the left of the engine untill it goes hard and see if it starts.
#6: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:42 am ----
richpowell91 wrote:
These engines suffer from a common fault of the air box rubbing through a couple of plastic fuel pipes that run underneith the box. As said above try pumping up the hand primer on the left of the engine untill it goes hard and see if it starts.
As above, common fault. Usually on the elbow next to the fuel filter. Remove the air box, prime the system and if there is a fair bit of air coming through on the return line (clear). Replace the fuel lines
#7: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: Clifford, Location: HampshirePosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:48 am ---- Hi,
Many thanks for the advice, took the air box off today and the lines have been rubbing but I can't see any evidence of it wearing through. Pumped the primer for ages and the pug started, lots of air bubble in the clear line as I pumped. I can still hear a little air sloshing around in the top of the fuel filter, is this normal?
I am guessing when I ran dry there is still air in the system. If the pug refuses to start again then I will go looking for a damaged pipe.
Thanks again
#8: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:53 am ---- is there air in the line when its running?
#9: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:17 pm ----
broadblaster wrote:
if it starts and runs you could just fire it up and then crack the nuts on the injectors and bleed it out that way.
Great idea on a HDI, perfect way to injure someone
#10: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:27 pm ----
Clifford wrote:
Hi,
Many thanks for the advice, took the air box off today and the lines have been rubbing but I can't see any evidence of it wearing through. Pumped the primer for ages and the pug started, lots of air bubble in the clear line as I pumped. I can still hear a little air sloshing around in the top of the fuel filter, is this normal?
I am guessing when I ran dry there is still air in the system. If the pug refuses to start again then I will go looking for a damaged pipe.
Thanks again
Just a note all the times ive seen this on the peugeots and also fords, i have yet to actually see a hole, normally the fact that the car fails to start in the mornings, low fuel pressure fault codes and priming it using the primer and the car starting is enough to back up the assumption.
Bare in mind its only got to wear a hole the size of a pin hole in order to allow air into the system and thus allowing the fuel to drain back. So actually seeing the hole can be quite a task, have it checked for fault codes, just too see if it points to anything else.
The price for the pipes range from £57.51, £67.96 or £111.13 all plus vat, depending upon which ones you need.
#11: Re: 1.4hdi problems after runing out of diesel Author: sxibeast, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:05 am ---- The HDI we have has holes in the fuel lines!
They have been temporarily repaired, but will be getting replacement lines on pay day!
One of the holes is a slit about 5mm long and caused us no ends of problems when we were trying to find the issue!
I have also removed the airbox and gone at it with the Dremel to relieve the area of material to prevent (as much) rubbing!
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