#1: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Zack, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:39 am ---- What manifold would be better for my 206 gti 137
180 manifold
or stainless 4 - 1 manifold
or Stainless 4 - 2 - 1 manifold
cheers
#2: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:45 am ---- 4-2-1 but they tend to be long so you'll also need uprated engine mounts to restrict engine movement.
#3: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Zack, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:48 am ---- Im running on group N on bottom engine mount or do you need the lot?
cheers
#4: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: iainlovatt, Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:46 am ---- i have a 180 one you can have on the cheap!
pm me if you are interested..
#5: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Zack, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:34 pm ----
iainlovatt wrote:
i have a 180 one you can have on the cheap!
pm me if you are interested..
Yea but what will the gains be :/
#6: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:38 pm ---- A single modification on its own will get you next to nothing. You need to fit it with other changes to get the full benefit.
#7: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Zack, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:44 pm ---- Yea but would it still be as good as 4 - 2 - 1? with cat cams
#8: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:01 pm ---- Which Cat Cams?
#9: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Zack, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:14 pm ---- www.catcams.co.uk/acat...files.html
these any good?
#10: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Zack, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:08 pm ---- any one?
#11: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:54 am ---- rattles down to cost really
180 mani will be less than 100 quid and easyer to fit, might need to change gear linkage slightly not sure
rraceland 4-1 less than 200 quid more noticable gains than the 180 but needs engine dropping a few inch or sub frame removing and some custom work to fit the cat back
the 4-2-1 is over 500 quid and as wdward says will require all engine mounts upgrading and the same work as the 4-1 but the gains will be better
as for the cams i dont think you get alot from them alone you need more head work to get the most out of them and for over 1500 quid for 15-25 bhp max
i got 10bhp from a piper reprofile and that was a cheaper option but still cost near 1000 re profile
#12: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Zack, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:45 am ----
usher wrote:
rattles down to cost really
180 mani will be less than 100 quid and easyer to fit, might need to change gear linkage slightly not sure
rraceland 4-1 less than 200 quid more noticable gains than the 180 but needs engine dropping a few inch or sub frame removing and some custom work to fit the cat back
the 4-2-1 is over 500 quid and as wdward says will require all engine mounts upgrading and the same work as the 4-1 but the gains will be better
as for the cams i dont think you get alot from them alone you need more head work to get the most out of them and for over 1500 quid for 15-25 bhp max
i got 10bhp from a piper reprofile and that was a cheaper option but still cost near 1000 re profile
So for a quick and easy gain 180 manifold. would it sound different?
With them cams do you need re mapp of any thing?
Thanks
#13: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: usher, Location: northallertonPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:07 am ---- with any cams you need a re-map
180 manifold might give you something but doubtfull, raceland is good for midrange torque cant coment on the 4-2-1
i would say you will gain 10 from the map 5 from cams and 5 from manifold max but you wont see them gains indevidually you will need the mapto get the max out of all of them
#14: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: Zack, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:26 am ---- Not a bad gain tho id be happy with 13 from all that.
At the min im running just a de cat.
Plan is to get a K&N Typhoon Induction Kits, The Cams you said, 180 Manifold, And Then Remap it all.
What BHP you running?
cheers
#15: Re: Manifold Gains on gti 137 Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:56 am ----
usher wrote:
180 mani will be less than 100 quid and easyer to fit, might need to change gear linkage slightly not sure
You have to change to the dog w**k 180 cable setup the 138 rod setup will not clear the 180 exhaust manifold.
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