#1: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:42 pm ---- Just start a new topic off...the car goes in this Saturday to Ecosse for the throttle bodies to be fitted.
So from the beginning...way back in 2004...
Suspension got fitted...
Eibach Pro Kit springs, Bilstein Sport dampers, Peugeot Sport 21mm torsion bars (gravel rally spec).
Then some GTi 180 front brakes
Then some Goodridge braided hoses...
Then the 22mm GTi 180 rear roll bar
Then a Richard Longman cylinder head
Then a Maniflow 4-2-1 manifold and 2.5" system with 200cell cat.
During the summer I fitted some Peugeot Sport GP A wishbones and various other new suspension parts.
So this weekend it's going to Ecosse for the throttle bodies to be fitted which means I've had to do some shopping to prepare for the job.
Jenvey inlet manifold
Then an ACT products/ Jenvey/ Longman carbon airbox.
I also bought a new water pump, rocker cover gaskets, hydraulic lifters and a GTi 180 inlet manifold gasket. A new clutch has been fitted too.
It's also had a new dipstick fitted (Recommended for any older style 138 GTi)
In the last few weeks it's also had some new front discs and pads.
It all looks completely standard.
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#2: Re: Project sleeper Author: AJS, Location: ScotlandPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:45 pm ---- Cant wait for the work to be done at Ecosse
Will you be up over a weekend at all? Im only down the road from there...
Oh and great to have you back Edward!
#3: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:46 pm ----
#4: Re: Project sleeper Author: nakednakeddave, Location: aberdeenPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:46 pm ---- looks like its goin to be a bit of a beast, id love the suspension setup youve got
#5: Re: Project sleeper Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:47 pm ---- Might pop along and say hello on Saturday
#6: Re: Project sleeper Author: Cr4zYb0y, Location: SalisburyPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:47 pm ---- Looking forward to seeing this all done and dusted mate..!
#7: Re: Project sleeper Author: twed207, Location: borders, near carlisle.Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:04 pm ---- car looks ace edward! i think that's the first time i've ever seen it! lol
it's gonna sound orgasmic once the TB's are in!!
#8: Re: Project sleeper Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:26 pm ---- First time ive seen the car ever! lol
What power you hoping for Edward?
#9: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:27 pm ---- Major love for the car, the man and the thread!
#10: Re: Project sleeper Author: Alan_206HDi, Location: Hatfield Heath, HertsPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:33 pm ---- Very nice indeed! What year is the car?
#11: Re: Project sleeper Author: misskayleigh, Location: Kings Lynn, NorfolkPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:48 pm ---- i love your car! look forward to seeing everything done to it!
#12: Re: Project sleeper Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:09 pm ---- Very very nice, I see you've been spending quite some money as those are some of the best if not the best parts for modification (eibach, bilstein jenvey, etc.) . Will you be changing the cams as well? If so, which ones will you use? Also what ECU will you install?
#13: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:11 pm ---- Ecosse seem to like Omex/Emerald iirc
#14: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:20 pm ---- Yes it's getting 42mm Jenveys, Piper Ultimate Road cams and Piper verniers fitted. Ecosse use Omex ECU's.
#15: Re: Project sleeper Author: Ruffy_206, Location: BristolPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:25 pm ---- i love what you have done to it mate. keep up the good work
I'd have popped along too for a blether but sadly, i'm working! It'll be a cracking car when its done.
#17: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:29 pm ----
Edward wrote:
Yes it's getting 42mm Jenveys, Piper Ultimate Road cams and Piper verniers fitted. Ecosse use Omex ECU's.
Which is weird because Sandy/Colin swear by DTA on PSA engines
#18: Re: Project sleeper Author: Dillon, Location: KentPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:34 pm ---- Good to hear it's all going smoothly with the GTI seeing as it has to be the cleanest most pampered 206 ever!
Yes it's getting 42mm Jenveys, Piper Ultimate Road cams and Piper verniers fitted. Ecosse use Omex ECU's.
Which is weird because Sandy/Colin swear by DTA on PSA engines
Thats because Sandy is familiar with it and thats what he likes to map. It's down to the choice of who is mapping first and foremost of what ECU you should buy, then secondly what application it is for.
#21: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:46 pm ---- I agree, and by the sounds of it you know Sandy too. However he said DTA is the easiest, which is why it's his preference for TB on PSA engines...
#22: Re: Project sleeper Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:46 pm ---- Bonson's gti-6 uses omex management and he's over the 200bhp mark without cams... ok, it required a bit of tweaking with the exhaust, outlet manifold and so on, but it's still very impressive.
#23: Re: Project sleeper Author: Chi, Location: North LondonPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:53 pm ---- Can't wait for the completed article!! It's been a long time a coming!
#24: Re: Project sleeper Author: andyG, Location: Arbroath, ScotlandPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:54 pm ---- and rapid as he blasted past me after university in Dundee last year
#25: Re: Project sleeper Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:02 pm ---- Yup, TB's certainly do make a car shift! He took me and graham out in it when he first got it done, we met him at ecosse when he went to collect it. He was a very happy lad! lol.
#26: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:28 pm ---- Will be me soon enough
#27: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:48 pm ---- Nice one Paul, good to see you back.
#28: Re: Project sleeper Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:00 am ---- Stunning GTi, what BHP will you be running with all the mods done? also what is the standard GTi torsion bar? as i see you have upgraded to a GTi 180?
#29: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:12 am ---- No idea what the car will be running at...any guesses anybody?
The 138 GTi as standard has 19.5mm torsion bars and a 21mm rear ARB. I have 21mm torsion bars and a 22mm rear ARB.
#30: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:24 am ---- I'm gonna guess somewhere in the region of 175-185bhp
#31: Re: Project sleeper Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:27 am ----
Edward wrote:
No idea what the car will be running at...any guesses anybody?
The 138 GTi as standard has 19.5mm torsion bars and a 21mm rear ARB. I have 21mm torsion bars and a 22mm rear ARB.
Cheers, are both these parts off a GTi 180? also are they a straight fit?
#32: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:39 am ---- I'd probably think the same as Jamie, around 185 ish.
#33: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:49 am ---- So people don't trust the Longmans figures of 190bhp then?
#34: Re: Project sleeper Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:34 am ---- Bear in mind he has a longman's head folks....
#35: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:42 am ---- 185 is close enough to 190!
I hate predicting figures, it's so hit and miss. Like my own project, could come out at 250, could come out at 275. Who knows!
It's all down to the exact conditions the engine has been under, the stress/strain put on it. And also the condition and production methods of all the parts that are being put on!
It could be miles out.
I'm just giving a rough figure, would be great to get over it yeah, and it most likely will. Just like to play it safe personally
#36: Re: Project sleeper Author: =ZiAn=, Location: SloveniaPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:43 am ---- including the cams I'd be guessing in the region of 200. Judging by macj's rally 206 running at 183 with just ITB's mapping and exhaust iirc..+ comparing it to Spike's 206.
#37: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:50 am ---- Good point actually!
#38: Re: Project sleeper Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:31 am ---- The ManiPorn exhaust system is going to be able to work its wonders now as well. Am i right in saying though Tedward that you'd never put it on the rollers? Surely you'll be a little bit more curious now?
#39: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:37 am ---- I was thinking that too Bri, I wouldn't be surprised if this broke the 200bhp barrier...
#40: Re: Project sleeper Author: Guy, Location: Solihull, BirminghamPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:41 am ----
Seb wrote:
185 is close enough to 190!
I hate predicting figures, it's so hit and miss. Like my own project, could come out at 250, could come out at 275. Who knows!
It's all down to the exact conditions the engine has been under, the stress/strain put on it. And also the condition and production methods of all the parts that are being put on!
It could be miles out.
I'm just giving a rough figure, would be great to get over it yeah, and it most likely will. Just like to play it safe personally
I agree you there seb!
Loving that project! Will keep following this
#41: Re: Project sleeper Author: Ross, Location: West MidlandsPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:05 am ---- Cracking example, in some ways I wish I had the same sort of dedication to keep a car that long and get it to the sort of level you have. It'll be in another league when the TB's are on!
One thing though... first your username was Teddy, now Edward, and now I find out your name is actually Paul..... confused
#42: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:10 pm ----
Brian wrote:
Am i right in saying though Tedward that you'd never put it on the rollers? Surely you'll be a little bit more curious now?
They just show numbers...it's never had any mapping done and the throttle bodies and cams had always been planned so I never bothered wasting money on remaps etc. Therefore it has never been run on any rollers.
#43: Re: Project sleeper Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:18 pm ---- Predicting fiqures is like trying to guess the lottery numbers, only a few are ever correct
But in my honest opinion i would be guessing 160 mark, sorry to be harsh but i dont want to get your hopes up if i say 180 and you come out with 140
It all really depends on the actually construction of the engine, it could have been a friday afternoon job for all you know...
Example A
Ford main dealers way to constructing an engine
No labeled pistons, bung them in any order and see which fits best
Say the factory document say X one factory could make the fiqure Y while another Z
But anyways
I do like that about your car, simple yet effective
#44: Re: Project sleeper Author: Ruffy_206, Location: BristolPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:23 pm ---- comes with 138 standard would think it would be over 160 mate
comes with 138 standard would think it would be over 160 mate
Well you say that....
But who says it still has 138? Or even left the factory with 138 to start with
#46: Re: Project sleeper Author: Ruffy_206, Location: BristolPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:30 pm ---- well just going by what they say and a few people have had these at rs tuning last year and seem to perform arounf their unlike the 180
Thats with camshafts/other wierd and wonderful shiny things though?
I thought Ed wasnt going that far
#50: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:39 pm ---- Full spec will be...
Piper Ultimate Road cams (I think they are actually a 276 degree duration)
Piper vernier pulleys
42mm Jenvey bodies
Omex management
Richard Longman head
Maniflow 4-2-1 manifold and 2.5" system
Thats with camshafts/other wierd and wonderful shiny things though?
I thought Ed wasnt going that far
what you think now you seen the spec
If I know edward he will opt for a good torque curve rather than all out BHP.... I love verniers Last edited by macj on Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
#52: Re: Project sleeper Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:45 pm ---- Till i know the condition of the engine i wont hold my hopes high, sorry
But if it was full spec 138 i would say near the 175 to 185 mark, as....
The only way to truely determine the torque/horsepower is to put it on the rolling road in which the factory car was tested on
As ALL rolling roads are different in one way or the other, or could even be space or conditions. So no one output will be the same, hence why you see increase/decrease from different comapnies
Also i prefer to go by BHP on the wheels, so you will be looking at the 130 mark
#53: Re: Project sleeper Author: WilkyGTi, Location: Cumbria, UKPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:51 pm ---- Well i think i'll just give in now! All this stuff looks mint, not to mention the car!
Did you get the lifters from Peugeot (obviously there genuine but could've been from a diff company)? I'm wanting to rebuild the top end and wanting to replace the lifters. Just wondering how much they set you back.
#54: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:51 pm ---- It's all just a game of numbers. At the end of the day it's got the best parts with the right compromises for a road car. The power will be what it will be...If it doesn't make power than that's how it will stay.
Piper camshafts once told me the engine is a bit of a wet lettuce!
WilkyGTi wrote:
Did you get the lifters from Peugeot (obviously there genuine but could've been from a diff company)? I'm wanting to rebuild the top end and wanting to replace the lifters. Just wondering how much they set you back.
Yes I got the Peugeot lifters and list price is £380 I think. I asked for a discount and paid about £330.
#55: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:00 pm ----
Edward wrote:
It's all just a game of numbers. At the end of the day it's got the best parts with the right compromises for a road car. The power will be what it will be...If it doesn't make power than that's how it will stay.
And it'll most likely still be awesome to drive
Numbers are numbers, I don't care what mine will make. I used to, with my 206, as I was led down a line of thought that 1bhp actually makes a difference. I've long since been rid of that thinking.
It makes what it makes, and unless it feels like something is up, then it's good enough for me.
Yes I got the Peugeot lifters and list price is £380 I think. I asked for a discount and paid about £330.
Wow! i didn't expect that price! may have to rethink my plans! for you its a must as its a performance engine, but mines only standard, got a sticky lifter atm so was just gonna buy another head and replace lifters and stem seals for a little project and peace of mind!
#57: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:53 am ---- Mine splutters on start up and that happened as soon as the head was fitted. It might be something else but seeing as new cams are being fitted I thought it would be an ideal opportunity/excuse to replace them.
Euro Car parts do lifters for less money.
#58: Re: Project sleeper Author: t1mmy, Location: ReadingPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:41 am ---- It's looking as good as ever, will be even better once the TB's are fitted.
#59: Re: Project sleeper Author: Luke, Location: LeedsPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:54 am ---- I'll be very disappointed if you never put this on a RR just for curiousity. I don't believe in them really, but graphs are nice to look at and give a ballpark figure.
I bet it'll shift some though.
#60: Re: Project sleeper Author: jimmyfloydreturns, Location: SittingbournePosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:09 am ---- Nice to see this thread again, it was one of my favourites before. Hopefully the weather won't stop you this time round
#61: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:58 am ----
Luke wrote:
I'll be very disappointed if you never put this on a RR just for curiousity. I don't believe in them really, but graphs are nice to look at and give a ballpark figure
It will be going on a rolling road to do the mapping.
#62: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:00 pm ---- Why are you using 42mm bodies Paul?
ie any particular reason? Sandy has sold me 45mm jobbies, and I double checked with him to make sure they're right... Did you opt for the CF air horns are standard aluminum ones?
#63: Re: Project sleeper Author: MattyP, Location: PlymouthPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:48 pm ---- Your engine mods sound mental mate, can't wait to see the finished result. The longman cylinder head, can it be fitted without the need for TB's?
#64: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:58 pm ----
Jamie wrote:
Why are you using 42mm bodies Paul?
ie any particular reason? Sandy has sold me 45mm jobbies, and I double checked with him to make sure they're right... Did you opt for the CF air horns are standard aluminum ones?
The inlet manifold is 42mm so it makes sense to use bodies of the same size. There's no need to go any bigger. Smaller bodies give better throttle response too. The Jenvey website says 42mm is ideal for up to 56bhp per cylinder.
A 2 litre would be fitted with 45mm carbs and bodies tend to be smaller because they don't have the narrowing that a venturi in the carb has.
#65: Re: Project sleeper Author: t1mmy, Location: ReadingPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:10 am ---- Did you drop it off ok yesterday?
#66: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:45 am ---- Yes it was a great run to Ecosse. Took 4 hours including picking up my hire car in Glasgow. It's the longest drive I've done in the car for a couple of years. Avis gave me a VW Jetta 2.0 TDi 140...I booked a 90bhp Golf 1.6 TDi...
#67: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:20 am ---- They gave me this...
It's got a handy ski hatch too...
#68: Re: Project sleeper Author: Ruffy_206, Location: BristolPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:21 am ---- ha thats cute.
#69: Re: Project sleeper Author: Chi, Location: North LondonPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:29 am ---- How long will Ecosse have your car for? How does the VW compare to the GTi?
#70: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:19 pm ---- It was booked in for the week. They couldn't promise it would be just a week though. I just hope they have actually ordered all the parts in ready to get on with the job. I paid them enough money up front to buy 90% of the parts required!
The Jetta is a nice car. It's very comfortable, well built with lots of low down punch but ultimately it's a bit boring. It's not supposed to be exciting though but would be a great family car. I want an everyday car so was looking at what they cost these days. I think it looks quite smart with the silver front grille and 17" wheels. What I can't work out is why is has no remote control for the stereo. If a basic 206 can have one why can't a Jetta that costs £18k ish?
#71: Re: Project sleeper Author: Austin, Location: TelfordPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:13 pm ---- Your dog is well cute, the missus has just said she wants it lol. Good luck with the TB's.
#72: Re: Project sleeper Author: Chi, Location: North LondonPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:30 pm ---- Fingers crossed for you Paul regarding Ecosse getting your car sorted in a week as agreed.
I vaguely remember you also buying a Vauxhall Signum a while a go? Have you sold that since?
#73: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:43 pm ---- Hope it all goes well, and following on from an old conversation we had, would be good to finally see you at a track day....
#74: Re: Project sleeper Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:57 pm ---- PANTS! I was there today too. I expect i'd politely be told to "just bolt pal" if i asked how it was getting on etc
A week would be a pretty quick turnaround!
#75: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:03 pm ---- Did you buy your head direct from Longmans?
Can't wait for this to be done
#76: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:57 am ----
Brian wrote:
PANTS! I was there today too. I expect i'd politely be told to "just bolt pal" if i asked how it was getting on etc
A week would be a pretty quick turnaround!
You were at Ecosse? Did you see it ?
They told me originally it would take a week although since then they wouldn't 100% commit to a week just in case...it is a big job but a week isn't impossible if they've ordered all the parts in advance (they had enough time and I paid them enough up front!)
Jamie wrote:
Did you buy your head direct from Longmans?
Can't wait for this to be done
I bought it second hand. It was very clean though and had been finished off at a machine shop. It's a shame they can't be bought new anymore.
#77: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:07 am ---- I see, I'm interested because there is a cylinder head machinist opposite my house, only a little operation though which is why I'm a bit dubious to use them...
I have a spare GTi180 engine, so if it doesn't sell I'll be building that up and then stick that in all at once.
What kind of work should I ask to be done by the machine shop, ie in mm etc?
#78: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:28 am ---- I seem to vaguely remember something like 6/9 that I had off mine but don't quote me on that as I lost my thread with the site
#79: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jon, Location: 666ft BelowPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:31 am ---- Sometime little companies are better Jamie. See if you can find anyone they have done work for before?
#80: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:36 am ---- I've been in there a few times, asked to do work experience, only 2 men work there as far as I can tell!
I've never seen anyone trying to brick the place so it can't be that bad!
And thanks Seb but yours was a TU wasn't it
#81: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:48 am ---- Yeah it was but afaik it will all be relative and even 6/9 is a fairly conservative amount. It's mostly to up the compression slightly and give the gasket a flat surface to sandwich with. As for porting I'd guess there are no definitive measurements for that as it will mostly be done on a case to case basis.
#82: Re: Project sleeper Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:24 am ----
Edward wrote:
You were at Ecosse? Did you see it ?
Nah, i didn't dude, it would have been hidden away in the workshop. I was literally just in and out of the place as I had other places to be
#83: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:35 am ----
Jamie wrote:
What kind of work should I ask to be done by the machine shop, ie in mm etc?
All depends how big the combustion chamber is in the head. Don't forget skimming the head changes the valve timing...which is where verniers come in handy to correct the timing again.
#84: Re: Project sleeper Author: spike_202, Location: West midsPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:34 am ---- will you be at fcs ed?
#85: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:09 pm ----
spike_202 wrote:
will you be at fcs ed?
Naah.
#86: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:24 pm ----
#87: Re: Project sleeper Author: Iain, Location: Aberdeen, ScotlandPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:31 pm ---- Edward, i think you have my favourite sig on the site.
#88: Re: Project sleeper Author: t1mmy, Location: ReadingPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:16 pm ---- Are you getting it back tomorrow or do they need it for longer?
#89: Re: Project sleeper Author: wooders_09, Location: CheshirePosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:24 pm ---- Gorgeous mate. Would love to one day do a car to the standard you have on this.
#90: Re: Project sleeper Author: Andy_VXR, Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:31 pm ---- To much talk of figures. At end of the day the figures are just down to the conditions at that time and as you know, all RR are different. As long as it drives right and feels like it should then thats what you should want.
#91: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:19 am ---- Will get the car back next weekend.
Exactly, numbers are boring. It's got every part fitted that's best suited for road use. I've done my best in terms of spec so it will be what it will be.
Told my insurance yesterday about the changes and it only went up by £55 for the remaining 7 months of the policy. That's with Adrian Flux. It does make me worry when the person on the phone doesn't know what an ECU is though.
#92: Re: Project sleeper Author: Chi, Location: North LondonPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:21 am ---- Hahahaha @ Adrian Flux person!!
You will be driving back from Ecosse with a big grin on your face!
#93: Re: Project sleeper Author: Bailey, Location: Finding Dr. RobotnikPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:35 am ---- Even i know what an ecu is not that I know where it is under the bonnet thy guy must have been a ruhtard!
#94: Re: Project sleeper Author: Dave, Location: BirminghamPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:56 am ---- Looking forward to the pics mate!
#95: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:16 am ---- My insurance is cheaper next with the TB's than it is this year!
It's crazy!
#96: Re: Project sleeper Author: gti180boy, Location: StaffordPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:51 am ---- Edward have have to say that your car is very very clean lol i love it
#97: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:56 am ---- Couldn't justify spending thousands of £'s if it was in average X reg condition!
#98: Re: Project sleeper Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:01 am ----
Edward wrote:
Will get the car back next weekend.
Exactly, numbers are boring. It's got every part fitted that's best suited for road use. I've done my best in terms of spec so it will be what it will be.
Told my insurance yesterday about the changes and it only went up by £55 for the remaining 7 months of the policy. That's with Adrian Flux. It does make me worry when the person on the phone doesn't know what an ECU is though.
Do you have an agreed value on the car?
#99: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:08 am ---- That's what I want to sort with them. I asked them what 'like for like' means on modifications and the response was a bit vague when I asked if the car was completely destroyed would I get back the value of the parts paid.
These insurance companies want everything declaring in writing by me to cover their backs but when I want clarification of something they can't give it
The base car can be replaced with another as there is no shortage of 206 GTi's around but the parts aren't available 2nd hand. Realistically it would cost £10k to build another of the same spec and there's no point in having fully comp insurance with everything declared if it came to the crunch and I couldn't build an identical car.
#100: Re: Project sleeper Author: Geoff, Location: Evesham, WorcestershirePosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:20 pm ---- Its quite an issue in getting things declared. Endsleigh had a fit over fitting a towbar - they weren't sure whether they could insure me! I've read over a few forums now that some people are having there insurance cover void because they are fitting winter wheels! A friend of mine rang up his insurance and the woman didn't know what a steel wheel was!
#101: Re: Project sleeper Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:14 pm ---- Picking the car up tomorrow then Paul? Thought you might also get that scuff on the front O/S SP arch sorted while the car was in getting the TB's fitted.
Picking the car up tomorrow then Paul? Thought you might also get that scuff on the front O/S SP arch sorted while the car was in getting the TB's fitted.
lol stop being picky.
#103: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:18 pm ----
G. wrote:
Picking the car up tomorrow then Paul? Thought you might also get that scuff on the front O/S SP arch sorted while the car was in getting the TB's fitted.
Err...no and I like the scratch gives it some individuality.
#104: Re: Project sleeper Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:42 pm ---- I have a spare moonstone offside rear arch extension if you want it?
Picking the car up tomorrow then Paul? Thought you might also get that scuff on the front O/S SP arch sorted while the car was in getting the TB's fitted.
Err...no and I like the scratch gives it some individuality.
is it to add to the sleeper look? Just thought you would have got it tidyed up considering how well looked after the rest of the car is.
#106: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:08 pm ---- It's my version of Cindy Crawfords Mole...
#107: Re: Project sleeper Author: carl123uk, Location: NuneatonPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:36 pm ---- any updates?
#108: Re: Project sleeper Author: AJS, Location: ScotlandPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:40 pm ---- Hes probably out having too much fun to be posting on here
#109: Re: Project sleeper Author: carl123uk, Location: NuneatonPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:48 pm ---- lol anyone would. i bet he's gone through a few tanks of petrol since having it done.
#110: Re: Project sleeper Author: Dillon, Location: KentPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:27 pm ----
AJS wrote:
Hes probably out having too much fun to be posting on here
If it where me you wouldn't get a peep out of me for weeks..
#111: Re: Project sleeper Author: SAB206, Location: North WestPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:36 pm ---- He'll be enjoying the drive back from Scotland and binning the VW
#112: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:50 pm ---- It isn't back yet...
#113: Re: Project sleeper Author: twed207, Location: borders, near carlisle.Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:02 pm ---- so i've heard...
#114: Re: Project sleeper Author: carl123uk, Location: NuneatonPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:16 pm ----
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car looks ace edward! i think that's the first time i've ever seen it! lol
. Will you be changing the cams as well? If so, which ones will you use? Also what ECU will you install?
