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#46: Re: Project sleeper Author: Ruffy_206, Location: Bristol PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:30 pm
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well just going by what they say and a few people have had these at rs tuning last year and seem to perform arounf their unlike the 180

#47: Re: Project sleeper Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:31 pm
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Ruffy_206 wrote:
well just going by what they say and a few people have had these at rs tuning last year and seem to perform arounf their unlike the 180

Who knows mate, who knows.... Laughing

But im still going with the 160 mark Sad

#48: Re: Project sleeper Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:32 pm
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Can I have a little prediction.......198-203HP Wink

#49: Re: Project sleeper Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:36 pm
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macj wrote:
Can I have a little prediction.......198-203HP Wink

Thats with camshafts/other wierd and wonderful shiny things though? Laughing

I thought Ed wasnt going that far Confused

#50: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:39 pm
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Full spec will be...

Piper Ultimate Road cams (I think they are actually a 276 degree duration)
Piper vernier pulleys
42mm Jenvey bodies
Omex management
Richard Longman head
Maniflow 4-2-1 manifold and 2.5" system

#51: Re: Project sleeper Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:41 pm
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addaz wrote:
macj wrote:
Can I have a little prediction.......198-203HP Wink

Thats with camshafts/other wierd and wonderful shiny things though? Laughing

I thought Ed wasnt going that far Confused

what you think now you seen the spec Very Happy
If I know edward he will opt for a good torque curve rather than all out BHP.... I love verniers

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#52: Re: Project sleeper Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:45 pm
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Till i know the condition of the engine i wont hold my hopes high, sorry Sad

But if it was full spec 138 i would say near the 175 to 185 mark, as....

The only way to truely determine the torque/horsepower is to put it on the rolling road in which the factory car was tested on

As ALL rolling roads are different in one way or the other, or could even be space or conditions. So no one output will be the same, hence why you see increase/decrease from different comapnies Wink

Also i prefer to go by BHP on the wheels, so you will be looking at the 130 mark Wink

#53: Re: Project sleeper Author: WilkyGTi, Location: Cumbria, UK PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:51 pm
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Well i think i'll just give in now! All this stuff looks mint, not to mention the car!

Did you get the lifters from Peugeot (obviously there genuine but could've been from a diff company)? I'm wanting to rebuild the top end and wanting to replace the lifters. Just wondering how much they set you back.

#54: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:51 pm
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It's all just a game of numbers. At the end of the day it's got the best parts with the right compromises for a road car. The power will be what it will be...If it doesn't make power than that's how it will stay.

Piper camshafts once told me the engine is a bit of a wet lettuce!

WilkyGTi wrote:

Did you get the lifters from Peugeot (obviously there genuine but could've been from a diff company)? I'm wanting to rebuild the top end and wanting to replace the lifters. Just wondering how much they set you back.

Yes I got the Peugeot lifters and list price is £380 I think. I asked for a discount and paid about £330.

#55: Re: Project sleeper Author: Seb, Location: Under your bed PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:00 pm
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Edward wrote:
It's all just a game of numbers. At the end of the day it's got the best parts with the right compromises for a road car. The power will be what it will be...If it doesn't make power than that's how it will stay.
And it'll most likely still be awesome to drive Smile

Numbers are numbers, I don't care what mine will make. I used to, with my 206, as I was led down a line of thought that 1bhp actually makes a difference. I've long since been rid of that thinking.

It makes what it makes, and unless it feels like something is up, then it's good enough for me.

#56: Re: Project sleeper Author: WilkyGTi, Location: Cumbria, UK PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:02 pm
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Edward wrote:

Yes I got the Peugeot lifters and list price is £380 I think. I asked for a discount and paid about £330.

Wow! i didn't expect that price! may have to rethink my plans! for you its a must as its a performance engine, but mines only standard, got a sticky lifter atm so was just gonna buy another head and replace lifters and stem seals for a little project and peace of mind!

#57: Re: Project sleeper Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:53 am
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Mine splutters on start up and that happened as soon as the head was fitted. It might be something else but seeing as new cams are being fitted I thought it would be an ideal opportunity/excuse to replace them.

Euro Car parts do lifters for less money.

#58: Re: Project sleeper Author: t1mmy, Location: Reading PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:41 am
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It's looking as good as ever, will be even better once the TB's are fitted.

#59: Re: Project sleeper Author: Luke, Location: Leeds PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:54 am
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I'll be very disappointed if you never put this on a RR just for curiousity. I don't believe in them really, but graphs are nice to look at and give a ballpark figure.

I bet it'll shift some though. Wink

#60: Re: Project sleeper Author: jimmyfloydreturns, Location: Sittingbourne PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:09 am
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Nice to see this thread again, it was one of my favourites before. Hopefully the weather won't stop you this time round Smile



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