#1: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:26 pm ---- i have a 206cc 2.0 16v and it has just started doing this,
you drive along with you foot just touching the trottle and it will rev but if you put your foot any further down the car will start juddering and loose power, this will happen in every gear and also when you are sat still i try to rev and if i just tap the trottle it will climb slowly but if i put my foot any further down it ill rev then drop to about 1500 - 2000 and stay there with my foot to the floor and start reving between 1500 and 2000
i first thought there was not enough air getting in but it still does it with the air box off
the car has brought up some messages in the past on the centre screen
first was somthing to do with the cat and the other was anti pollen fault
i do hope some one will be able to help me with this
thanks
#2: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:29 pm ---- Needs scanning for fault codes.
ANTIPOLLUTION FAULT mean's the engine ecu has detected a problem, you need to read the fault codes stored in the memory.
Fault codes will point you in the direction of the problem.
#3: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:33 pm ---- i did scan it and first of all came up with 2 knock sensor faults and one other that i cant remember but i cleard them off and took it for a drive and still no change then i plugged it in again and it came up with p0170
#4: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: Mr-Tigger, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:47 pm ---- going through this same thing myself,however its intermitten and p0201 and p0202 faults,going back to the garage,hope yours isnt a serious/beggared as mine dude. but that could just be related to MAF or something else toying with the fuel mix
#5: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:49 pm ---- see i thought i would be maf but mine does not have a maf it only runs a map
#6: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:50 pm ---- it*
#7: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:53 pm ---- but my mate had a 406 with the 2.0 in and he had isues with it dieing and irratic idle with was down to the maf
#8: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:55 pm ---- its my girlfrinds car and i tell her to tell me any symtoms it has but she never does but it did used to come up with a cat fault on the centre screen but it passed mot exhaust gas test
#9: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:59 pm ---- Here's a guess. It's the coil pack. Will run fine at idle but the coil pack is too weak to spark through the denser air at anything more than idle...as I said just a guess.
#10: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:02 pm ---- but i presume they are expensive as its a single solid coil pack
#11: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:04 pm ---- would it not missfire if the cylinder couldnt spark under load
#12: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:05 pm ---- Hasn't got w**ky NGK spark plugs in it?
#13: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:09 pm ---- i did pull them out today but cant remember what make they are but my first thought was to give it a new set of plugs
#14: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:40 pm ---- when i held the trottle wide open and it was reving around the 2000 mark i put my hand over part of the tube that goes to the air box and the revs did pick up a little which is making me think more of a air leak somewhere
#15: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:51 pm ---- £102 for a coil pack from Euro Car Parts. Can get 25% discount on that though.
#16: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:54 pm ---- yea when you mentioned the coil pack i had a quick look at prices and dam thats alot lol
#17: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:59 pm ---- this problem could come from so many places
#18: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:10 pm ---- Pay a professional to diagnose the problem.
This thread is turning in to a game of Guess Who.
OR you could just waste money repeatedly throwing parts at it till you sort it.
Choice is yours
#19: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:30 pm ----
Edward wrote:
£102 for a coil pack from Euro Car Parts. Can get 25% discount on that though.
I have a working coil pack for sale if you need one to try.
#20: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: Mr-Tigger, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:41 pm ---- coilpack from stealership is £95 if u ask nicely but as above,would imagine that would cause misfire too,or even OBD fault for one of the cyliners? when u say runs map,so its been remapped then? too ignore maf,lambda etc?
#21: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:43 pm ----
Mr-Tigger wrote:
when u say runs map,so its been remapped then? too ignore maf,lambda etc?
map = MAP sensor.
MAF = not fitted to EW10 engine.
#22: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: ukskater01, Location: sutton surrey/welwyn garden cityPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:19 pm ---- I've found new coilpacks for £45 but that's with trade discount
#23: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: Mr-Tigger, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:38 pm ---- oooooh cheers edward lol
#24: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:24 pm ---- a little update the problems has its bad days and they its worse days lol so i was looking at the coil pack and noticed that the wires to the plug the outer plastic casing had been worn away on 2 of the wires so i wraped some tape round them and tried to rev the engine but still no luck, would the wires touching cause damage to the coil pack,
i do need to find another coil pack to try and see if it is that,
as i kept driving the car i kept checking for codes and still nothing
#25: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:26 pm ---- im guessing i must have the ew10 engine then
#26: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:55 pm ---- one of the codes it has brought up before was about the air intake temp sensor which i have read can cause the anti pollen and cat fault and cause loss of power etc
#27: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:02 pm ---- and read other people had problems with trottle body motors
#28: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:05 pm ---- where is the air intake temp sensor as when i looked at the trottle body there are a few sensors on it
#29: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:01 pm ---- It's a grey sensor on the throttle body that sits in the air flow. If you need one I've got one but I wouldnt think it would make a massive difference to the running of the engine. Every extra 10 degrees needs 3% more fuel so unless the sensor is telling the engine something stupid I wouldnt think it was at fault, If in doubt disconnect it and see what happens. It's a small player in running engines.
#30: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:02 am ---- Ohh right OK would the broken wires touching kill the coil pack
#31: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:55 am ---- right today found a mate's gf who has the same car and i borrowed a few bit, first i tried coil pack but no luck, then tried plugs and no luck the swaped the map sensor but still nothing finally i swaped the whole trottle body over but nothing.
this is a real pain as its getting worse when i put my foot down it will rev a little and sometimes cut out not and not catch
i have read that in the winter time somthing to do with water in the fuel and to put some vpower in
#32: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:50 pm ---- This doesnt have a motorised throttle body does it? Would think it's too early for that.
#33: Re: 206cc 2.0 wont rev properly and loosing power Author: chris_loader, Location: st albansPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:59 am ---- Its cable throttle
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but as above,would imagine that would cause misfire too,or even OBD fault for one of the cyliners? when u say runs map,so its been remapped then? too ignore maf,lambda etc?
