#1: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:07 am ---- Just parked the car up radio (standard orm) on drivers window slightly open. Turned the key off. Locked the car and left it for 10 mins.
Went back to the car unlocked it via the remote. Started the car up the radio came on as it should however the mfd did not display the radio info and the radio was emitting a high pitched constant beep over the radio. Very loud.
No warming lights on the car etc.
I turned the car off the radio stayed on playing but beep stopped. I turned the car on the radio continued but the mfd came on properly and now it is ok again.
Anyone have this happen before? Is it related to my other posts regarding the random beeping and oil light and earth strap.
Have I got more earth problems or some other electrical issue.
The battery is 100% and only 5 months old. It has been tested.
Thanks in advance Last edited by Tolkienfan001 on Sat May 10, 2014 3:50 am; edited 7 times in total
#2: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:12 am ---- Have you got any LED lights fitted?
Any HID stuff?
#3: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:18 am ---- No. Fronts are all standard. Rears are black Lexus. But been on since I got it.
#4: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:18 am ---- BSI software bug by the sounds of it.
#5: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:19 am ----
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
No. Fronts are all standard. Rears are black Lexus. But been on since I got it.
Ok so this is where my experience is at its lowest. Is there anything I can do to sort it or do I need a visit to pug?
#6: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:21 am ----
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
No. Fronts are all standard. Rears are black Lexus. But been on since I got it.
Ok so this is where my experience is at its lowest. Is there anything I can do to sort it or do I need a visit to pug?
Just reboot it & see how it goes.
#7: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:21 am ---- Did you get your gearbox earth sorted?
#8: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:22 am ---- Is she called Christine at all?
#9: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:25 am ---- Yea I have a brand new earth strap.
I just don't get it the car runs so well starts first time. It's just this random beeping the oil light the other day and now the radio. I am at a complete loss!
#10: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:25 am ---- Check the alternator earth starp connection on the unit itself too.
And reset BSI anyway as said above.
#11: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:28 am ---- Ok thank you guys I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I will reboot the BSI. And will look into the alternator earth.
I will message back if it continues after these jobs.
#12: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:45 am ---- Guys,
I have had a look at my Haynes manual, but there is no mention of an earth strap on the alternator. I believe my alternator is located on the left hand side of the engine under the power steering. I can see one plug going into the alternator but where would the earth be?
Thanks
#13: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:58 am ----
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
Guys,
I have had a look at my Haynes manual, but there is no mention of an earth strap on the alternator. I believe my alternator is located on the left hand side of the engine under the power steering. I can see one plug going into the alternator but where would the earth be?
Thanks
The alternator is bolted to the engine block which is in turn attached to the gearbox.
The whole lot is earthed as its all attached together.
#14: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:11 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
Guys,
I have had a look at my Haynes manual, but there is no mention of an earth strap on the alternator. I believe my alternator is located on the left hand side of the engine under the power steering. I can see one plug going into the alternator but where would the earth be?
Thanks
The alternator is bolted to the engine block which is in turn attached to the gearbox.
The whole lot is earthed as its all attached together.
So the earth on the gearbox that I have changed covers this then. I will try the reboot.
#15: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:12 am ----
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
Guys,
I have had a look at my Haynes manual, but there is no mention of an earth strap on the alternator. I believe my alternator is located on the left hand side of the engine under the power steering. I can see one plug going into the alternator but where would the earth be?
Thanks
The alternator is bolted to the engine block which is in turn attached to the gearbox.
The whole lot is earthed as its all attached together.
So the earth on the gearbox that I have changed covers this then. I will try the reboot.
Yes.
#16: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:27 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
Guys,
I have had a look at my Haynes manual, but there is no mention of an earth strap on the alternator. I believe my alternator is located on the left hand side of the engine under the power steering. I can see one plug going into the alternator but where would the earth be?
Thanks
The alternator is bolted to the engine block which is in turn attached to the gearbox.
The whole lot is earthed as its all attached together.
So the earth on the gearbox that I have changed covers this then. I will try the reboot.
Yes.
That was brilliant advice there on my part I recon.
I'll keep quiet now I think.
#17: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 12:20 pm ---- Im going to stab in the dark here, but if you are suffering with other random electric faults I would be looking at a failing bsi unit or software
I have followed Mr BSI's advice and have rebooted the BSI.
I followed the procedure on here. Window down bonnet up. Disconnect etc etc.
While it was disconnected I removed the front grille and headlights and cleaned the two earth points behind the headlights. The passenger side was very corroded!
Put it all back together and woke the car up again as per the procedure.
I have just been for a long run in the car. I picked a route with plenty of turns so I could replicate the conditions (clutch brake indicating coming to a stop). I have driven several miles and no issues of any kind. I was unable to replicate the issue.
I will give it a few days before I say this is sorted but it is looking like either the earth or BSI bug......
I take it you've checked the ones behind the headlights..
No need to take them off just to examine if they're OK.
Aha..
You win
No way, it's a Pug so it ain't over 'till it's over.
BSI reset might have been it instead.
Fingers crossed then.
#22: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:01 pm ---- I have everything that is crossable crossed!!
#23: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:35 am ---- Done a few miles again today. Still no issues.......
#24: Re: Cars gone mad! Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:02 pm ---- The car beeped a couple of times again today. Any one got any other thoughts?
Looked at sorted so far:
No warning lights. No stored codes
Earths behind both headlights cleaned
Negative battery to gearbox to chassis earth replaced
BSI rebooted
Alternator connection checked
I have no idea what to look at next
#25: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: pug206lx, Location: Taking a gearbox off somewherePosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:18 pm ---- What is your battery condition like? Is it the standard head unit and is it the sort of loud chirp that you get from the speakers when the head unit has the wrong vin set to it? Maybe there is a fault with the BSI software recognising the stereo's programmed VIN or a fault in the wiring to the mfd and to the stereo from the bsi.
What is your battery condition like? Is it the standard head unit and is it the sort of loud chirp that you get from the speakers when the head unit has the wrong vin set to it? Maybe there is a fault with the BSI software recognising the stereo's programmed VIN or a fault in the wiring to the mfd and to the stereo from the bsi.
These are my initial thoughts...
Thanks for your thoughts. The battery is 5 months old and has been tested. It is 100%. I have the factory fitted head unit.
I am wondering if I May have a bulb out on the dash and when it is beeping I am not seeing a light come on?
I could do with someone posting a pic of the lights on the dash at start up?
#27: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:06 pm ---- Any other symptoms when it beeps?
Is it a single beep?
Can you describe it, like is it the same as the 'door-open' beep when the car starts rolling?
Definately not coming from the speakers?
At the exact moment of beep does the MFD go blank and then comes back again?
OR the engine temp gauge move?
Have you checked oil level?
#28: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 12:29 am ---- It is a single beep from the comms. No other lights or issues no mfd symptoms. It sounds the same as a foot open beep.
It only happens when coming to a stop.
Could it be a dodgy liquid level sensor? Oil? Brake fluid? Or coolant?
If so where are the sensors please?
#29: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:06 am ---- What is a foot open beep?
Checked the brake fluid level?
Done any work on the brakes recently?
Do you have ABS?
Predictive text or very small keyboard?
I'll hazard a guess it should be door.
#31: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:21 am ----
V9977 wrote:
What is a foot open beep?
Checked the brake fluid level?
Done any work on the brakes recently?
Do you have ABS?
Lol door open beep.
I do have ABS. New pads and discs on the front. Brake fluid on max.
As this only happens under braking, just before I come to a stop. I am starting to think it is an ABS issue. I have not had a car with ABS so what am I looking for?
Predictive text or very small keyboard?
I'll hazard a guess it should be door.
If it's door open sound, maybe there is an interminent contact on one of the locks. It will only take a millisecond to trigger the sound even though there's not enough time to display the message on the MFD or flash the interior light etc. That's just a crap guess though.
Have you bled the system with PP2000 to switch the ABS block to bleed?
Is your ABS dash-lamp working OK? Last edited by V9977 on Thu May 16, 2013 4:52 am; edited 1 time in total
#33: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:52 am ----
V9977 wrote:
macca1411 wrote:
V9977 wrote:
What is a foot open beep?
Predictive text or very small keyboard?
I'll hazard a guess it should be door.
If it's door open sound, maybe there is an interminent contact on one of the locks. It will only take a millisecond to trigger the sound even though there's not enough time to display the message on the MFD or flash the interior light etc. That's just a crap guess though.
Have you bled the system with PP2000 to switch the ABS block to bleed?
Is your ABS dash-light working OK?
I think the light is working. It comes on when I start the car with the other lights. Then goes off.
I do have an issue with the drivers lock. I struggle to lock / unlock with the key. Also have a knocking sound inside the door. Just not got round to sorting it yet.
If it is a door issue where is the sensor and what should I be looking for?
Thanks
#34: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:56 am ---- The sensor (switch) is inside the lock/latch unit itself with the locking motor etc.
The barrel is sepparate though if that has gonne stiff.
When did you do the brakes/disks?
Did you do bleeding with PP2000 for the ABS?
#35: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:12 am ---- Could do with this thread merging with your other one as they seem related www.206info.co.uk/Foru...54713.html
It probably isnt this but I used to get a single beep on start up when my ABS was shagged.
#37: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:27 am ---- Also, do you have a bonnet switch and a tailgate switch fitted?
#38: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:40 am ---- I don't have pp2000. And did not bleed the brakes.
However this issue was happening before the brakes were changed.
In the tailgate striker there will be a switch with two wires going into it.
For the bonnet, the easiest I think is to open the bonnet with engine running and see if you get a beep and MFD message.
#42: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:54 am ---- Ok I will test this later. If I have both of these I take it your thinking is the switches maybe faulty?
Ok I will test this later. If I have both of these I take it your thinking is the switches maybe faulty?
Just another thing to check.
I would bleed the brakes too if it was me.
And as macca says clean the ABS sensors and rings.
#44: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:00 am ---- Need to get pp2000 then. Can't afford that till August. Are the sensors and rings on both front and back? I have drums on the back.
#45: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:10 am ---- Is brake cleaner ok for the rings and sensors? Wire brush or cloth?
Thanks for all the help and advice guys!
#46: Re: Cars gone mad! Beep revs drop etc Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:21 am ---- Brake cleaner is OK but I would use hard tooth brush or simillar, not wire.
Check everything else above too.
Aquiring, seting-up and using PP2000 is not a quicky.
Might be worth getting someone who already has it to help you with this job.
Should have already scanned it with PP2000 really as other diagnostics do not always tell the whole story.
#47: Re: Cars gone mad! Beeped twice today 15-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:35 am ---- Ok thank you
#48: Re: Cars gone mad! More info added 18-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 1:19 pm ---- Not sure if this is relevant but I believe it this single beep fault seems to only happen when it is wet or raining?
#49: Re: Cars gone mad! More info added 18-05-13 Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Sat May 18, 2013 6:11 pm ----
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
Not sure if this is relevant but I believe it this single beep fault seems to only happen when it is wet or raining?
Checked the ABS sensors & rings yet?
#50: Re: Cars gone mad! More info added 18-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:10 am ---- I am on holiday this week. So will be doing it then.
#51: Re: Cars gone mad! More info added 18-05-13 Author: eddie206, Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:58 am ---- The single beep that you mention from earlier that occurs on startup is the car telling you your battery is on its way out and needs replacing....
Its in the Haynes and actualy just so its identified easily it is less of a beep sound and more of a dong sound..u know???like half of a door bell on your house....like..ding-dong. But only the dong.
FACT. If u get this dong your batterys knackered...
#52: Re: Cars gone mad! More info added 18-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:05 am ---- It does not beep on startup? Not sure where you read that. The beep is when braking in the wet when the car is at running temp / or possibly warm brakes. Deffinately thinking its ABS related....
#53: Re: Cars gone mad! More info added 18-05-13 Author: DREWDEN, Location: huddersfieldPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:02 pm ---- You don't get any beeps when you have problems with your ABS, just the ABS warning light comes on permantly, until the problem is fixed, then the light goes off.
The only single beeps i know of with the 206.
1) Is when the bonnet, and tailgate is not closed properly, but informs you on the MFD.
2)Trying to lock the doors, but one of the doors is not shut properly.
3) When the Fuel as got low and the orange light comes on the fuel gauge.
#54: Re: Cars gone mad! More info added 18-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:18 pm ---- Maybe my door then. I have a dodgy actuator on the drivers door.
#55: Re: Cars gone mad! More info added 18-05-13 Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:14 am ---- It did it again today. The revs are deffinately dropping when it happens.
To summarise. When braking and clutch in and coming to a stop the car beeps once from the comms unit. The revs drop to about 500 and then it just carries on as normal?
#56: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: eddie206, Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:23 pm ---- Ive gotta say it sounds more n more like your battery or alternator...the way the revs drop and it beeps as you slow down both point to battery faulty...the revs drop and it beeps as you slow because when decelerating like this the alternators supply drops and the engine and other drains draw on the battery more...
A good way to tell is to drive the car a while(ten mins shoyld do)and with the engine running without the fault presenting yet as you slow down on a quiet road turn on all your electrics..like the lights,the cd player,the heater etc.and as you slow quite quickly without revving see if the fault occurs...
Repeat the test several times until your satisfied you have tested the drain rate on the battery fully,making sure you do your best to drain that sucker and see what you get...
Dont forget cd player must be quiet enuf to hear the beep if it occurs...
I think i read that your battery was replaced just a few months ago but this is no guarantee of performance...ive known brand new and two month old batteries to fail so depending on the test results you may need new but if i did read right the battery should be guaranteed by the store or the manufacturer as im sure batteries come with at least 2years guarantee and often upto 4or5 years so they should replace it..
#57: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: eddie206, Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 5:12 pm ---- Any luck yet then?
#58: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:26 pm ---- No. Looking like an oil problem. Filter and pressure sensor to be replaced. If that does not sort it sump and pump?
#59: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: eddie206, Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:48 am ---- Just to elimanate it id unwire the radio/cd until u hear it again...if u do?
#60: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: MattS16, Location: Long SuttonPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:59 am ---- Have you got this sorted? When I worked as a tech at Pug high pitch regular beep was when the radio wasn't coded to the car, so if we did a sales head unit swap, you needed to go in and prog the chassis number into the head unit, sounds like BSi issue loosing/not recognising the coding for the head unit some reason...... gremlins!!!! As above BSi re-boot!!
#61: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:19 am ---- I did a BSI reboot. Not sure how it can be the radio.
It seems to happen only under these conditions:
Car at running temp.
Car just been driven hard (overtake or accelerate hard)
Coming to a stop
Clutch down feathering brake
The oil light flashes for a second so fast you can miss it. Sometimes the stop light will flash. The car beeps once
It can also happen with the beep but no light. This will happen once or twice on a 200 mile journey.
The oil level is fine on dash and dipstick. No oil leaks.
I am about to purchase an oem oil filter and an oil pressure switch.
If this does not fix it I will next oil change remove the sump and change the oil pump.
Other than this the car mpg is better than expected. It starts first time every time. Temp as expected. Car idles and accelerates great. Engine smooth and quite.
#62: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: MattS16, Location: Long SuttonPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:25 am ----
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
I did a BSI reboot. Not sure how it can be the radio.
It seems to happen only under these conditions:
Car at running temp.
Car just been driven hard (overtake or accelerate hard)
Coming to a stop
Clutch down feathering brake
The oil light flashes for a second so fast you can miss it. Sometimes the stop light will flash. The car beeps once
It can also happen with the beep but no light. This will happen once or twice on a 200 mile journey.
The oil level is fine on dash and dipstick. No oil leaks.
I am about to purchase an oem oil filter and an oil pressure switch.
If this does not fix it I will next oil change remove the sump and change the oil pump.
Other than this the car mpg is better than expected. It starts first time every time. Temp as expected. Car idles and accelerates great. Engine smooth and quite.
Sorry bud, saw this on my phone 1st time and was only showing the first page of the thread, so was just responding based on you're op, if it was low batt /alternator faults I would expect to see/have an air bag fault/light coming up, most voltage sensitive system on the car and will often come on with under voltage faults. Sounds like a dodgy oil level sensor with the light flicking on after acceleration/deceleration to me.
Matt
#63: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: MattS16, Location: Long SuttonPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:27 am ---- Of course wouldn't be a bad idea to get the oil pressure checked to be on the safe side first!
Matt
#64: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:41 am ---- Any idea what that costs? Can any garage do it?
#65: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: MattS16, Location: Long SuttonPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:59 am ----
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
Any idea what that costs? Can any garage do it?
Depends if they have a pressure gauge or not and how accessible the pressure test port is, it should be 3.0 bar at 2000rpm with the engine warm.
Mick Cawley is close to you if you're in Spalding. He's on the road to Weston Hills, He's a Pug/Cit Specialist & ex Pug tech so would probably be able to check it out for you, I've got access to a Bosch KTS but depends what software releases it has and if the live data shows oil pressure, best way is a gauge on the port, probably half hr/1 hr Lab tops to check it.
Matt
PS Think I might have seen you're car round the corner from my house a couple of times in Holbeach Clough?
#66: Re: Car beep, revs drop, no warning lights or MFD message Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:06 pm ----
MattS16 wrote:
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
Any idea what that costs? Can any garage do it?
Depends if they have a pressure gauge or not and how accessible the pressure test port is, it should be 3.0 bar at 2000rpm with the engine warm.
Mick Cawley is close to you if you're in Spalding. He's on the road to Weston Hills, He's a Pug/Cit Specialist & ex Pug tech so would probably be able to check it out for you, I've got access to a Bosch KTS but depends what software releases it has and if the live data shows oil pressure, best way is a gauge on the port, probably half hr/1 hr Lab tops to check it.
Matt
PS Think I might have seen you're car round the corner from my house a couple of times in Holbeach Clough?
Ok thanks.
Yea you will have done. Visiting family.
#67: Re: **updated** car beeps. No MFD MSG. Oil light flash. No codes Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:11 am ---- So have you got hydraulic clutch?
#68: Re: **updated** car beeps. No MFD MSG. Oil light flash. No codes Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 4:48 am ---- Not sure how I would know? There is a cable on top of the gearbox if that helps
#69: Re: **updated** car beeps. No MFD MSG. Oil light flash. No codes Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:31 am ---- Does the cable go to the arm on top of the box, and the arm moves when you push the clutch pedal?
#70: Re: **updated** car beeps. No MFD MSG. Oil light flash. No codes Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:35 am ---- Yes that's it
#71: Re: **updated** car beeps. No MFD MSG. Oil light flash. No codes Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:41 am ----
Tolkienfan001 wrote:
Yes that's it
It's cable then.
OK, just making sure it's not the brake light that blinks due to fluid or whatever.
#72: Re: **updated** car beeps. No MFD MSG. Oil light flash. No codes Author: eddie206, Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:07 pm ---- Hey tkf...why dont you make a recording of your problem then you can eliminate al the uncertainty and pin point the problem better...be sure to record sound and conditions...
If the fault is so random that its totaly unpredictable thats gonna be difficult,otherwise just match the conditions youve mentioned and set the fone away a few times until you get it...having a freind do the camera work might help..
Im sure plenty if us would like to see this recorded and see it sorted..
#73: Re: **updated** car beeps. No MFD MSG. Oil light flash. No codes Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:08 pm ---- Well it looks like the garage may have found the fault while doing my headgasket cambelt etc. I will know more when I get the car back. If i do not get the fault again happy days
I mentioned the fault to them and asked for the oil pressure sensor to be replaced. When they came to replace the oil filter, they found that a plate that activates the valve was missing.
So they have ordered and will fit this before I get the car back. They believe it is what was causing the issue as the spring would not be seated correctly.
I will update and move this to the solved section if I do not get the fault in the next couple of weeks.
#74: Re: *not fixed! :(* car beeps NoMSG Oil light flash No codes Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:42 pm ---- So the car did the same old beep flash of the stop and oil light as the revs dropped below 800ish coming to a stop.
I have been looking on google and other forums and with everything I have already changed, I am now thinking it is the oil pump. Even ECP states an oil pump on the way out is difficult to diagnose but could result in flashing oil lights.
The mot Is due in sept / oct. I will probably have the pump replaced then......
#75: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 4:11 am ---- Videos of the issue:
#76: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 4:24 am ---- So guys this is still on going.
It has done it since I got the Car. The car has just had the following done:
Head Skim and new head gasket
New Temp sensor, new Oil pressure sensor
New OEM Oil Filter and 10W40 oil
Sump removed and cleaned, Oil pickup / strainer cleaned. Sump re sealed.
New Oil filter cap as a part was missing
BSI Reset
Codes have been checked and none are pending or logged.
The car runs smooth and quite for its age.
The garage sys there is no Oil pressure issue. The oil level is on max.
The Messgae on the MFD, Stop light and oil light do not come on at any other time.
It is now looking to me like it is not an oil pressure issue in a sense, but an idle running issue? What do you think.
In the videos it looks to me that the car struggles to catch the revs before they drop to 500rpm and this is triggering the pressure issue.
What do you guys think? I am going to try some injector cleaner and clean the throttle body and Map / Maf sensor. I did do these last year.
any and all suggestions / comments / discussion welcome.
Failing that to the Stealers it may be........
Thanks
#77: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue conti Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:29 am ---- Did you get the oil pressure checked ?
This would tell you if the pump is on the way out. There is a very small possibility that the oil pressure relief valve may be sticking.... need to get oil pressure readings. Hot and cold.....
#78: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:05 am ---- Not sure how the garage did it. I will take it back and ask for hot and cold pressure to be checked.
If it is the valve is that fixable? Is it part if the pump or engine?
Thanks.
Karl
#79: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue conti Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 10:48 am ---- Not sure bud.... on an EW10 engine it is removable from outside. It may be accessible from under the sump if not. Someone will shed more light on the 1600 set-up I am sure
#80: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 4:51 am ---- I would be careful. Et3's have oil filter which break up and clog the engine.
If this has only started from the service, have the timing checked. If not I advise you get an engine ecu download/update from a main dealers, as Et3's require constant updating as they are a rubbish engine (sorry)
#81: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:57 am ----
Addaz wrote:
I would be careful. Et3's have oil filter which break up and clog the engine.
If this has only started from the service, have the timing checked. If not I advise you get an engine ecu download/update from a main dealers, as Et3's require constant updating as they are a rubbish engine (sorry)
It's done it for over two years on and off. What is the cost of an Ecuador update? I may do this.....
#82: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 2:52 pm ---- Depends on the cost of labour. But about 45 (half hour) to 100 quid
I did one on an ET3 207 of ours, cut out at junctions, idled crap, poor power. Downloaded it to the newest software, reset the autoadaptives and bang, drove like a brand new car.
Had 137K on the clock but you seriously couldnt tell!
#83: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 2:57 pm ---- Thank you buddy great info! I will contact the dealers
#84: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 5:51 am ---- Well the car is booked into a local Peugeot specialist Saturday. Diagnostics, battery, alternator and oil pressure to be checked. Problem is getting worse. Any electrical load at idle causes the revs to drop and the light to flash. Even doing up the elec windows??
#85: Re: VIDEO UPLOADED 10/05/14 - Oil light low revs issue continues Author: Tolkienfan001, Location: SpaldingPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:50 am ---- Well this is the cars last chance! Back into the garage friday for final tests! Oil pressure test. Oil pump and other related parts to be inspected.
No fix = ignore error until I have the cash to change the car 12-18 months, or the car goes bang pop dead!
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