#1: Damn 180 steering! Help, please... Author: gpvecchi, Location: ItalyPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:10 pm ---- There's a problem I can't solve with my RC (GTI 180).
Sometimes steering is soft and perfect, sometimes it becomes hard to pull and when turning (both slowly both fastly) it judders a lot!
Lower arms and all other joints were changed; I assume it is something related to steering pump (it has been changed 5 years ago because of a leakage) but I can't understand why sometimes is good and sometimes is not.
Help, please!
#2: Re: Damn 180 steering! Help, please... Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:14 pm ---- When it becomes hard to pull, is it when you pull the wheel hard and fast?
#3: Re: Damn 180 steering! Help, please... Author: gpvecchi, Location: ItalyPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:21 pm ---- In particular, but even if turn slowly in a crossroad.
Even if I stay still and I turn from one side to the other.
#4: Re: Damn 180 steering! Help, please... Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / TurkeyPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:22 pm ---- As you know that 206 RC have variable steering assistance. Steering will going harder after 4500 rpm and go slower again when rpm goes below 4000. I dont know exactly how is this working (i think its in inside pump) but maybe your problem is related with that one. I know our steering pump is simple mechanic one instead of electric pas pump but maybe your problem source is pump.
#5: Re: Damn 180 steering! Help, please... Author: gpvecchi, Location: ItalyPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:28 pm ---- Thanks, usually pump problem are not intermitting. I think that it could be something related to steering rack that creates overpressure on the steering pipes and make the valve discharge it.
Thanks, usually pump problem are not intermitting. I think that it could be something related to steering rack that creates overpressure on the steering pipes and make the valve discharge it.
If outside / ambient temp seems to make a difference as well, could be the steering valve in the rack in which case it's replacement rack time.
However, Schumi has a point with the pump if it's variable.
#7: Re: Damn 180 steering! Help, please... Author: gpvecchi, Location: ItalyPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:09 pm ---- Update: I was still in neutral without brakes; I steered from center to left with A LOT of juddering; then I steered from full left to full right without juddering.
Then from full right to full left: no juddering at all... I'm mad about this thing!
#8: Re: Damn 180 steering! Help, please... Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:18 pm ---- Maybe one way round it is to fit a shorter belt bypassing the PAS pump. If the dodgy steering still continues with no power assistance then you know it's not a mechanical problem with the rack. It narrows it down slightly to a hydraulic problem.
There's a pressure sensor on the steering pipes. Does Planet Peugeot do more in depth scanning than a normal fault code reader? It might be able to see any surges in pressure.
#9: Re: Damn 180 steering! Help, please... Author: gpvecchi, Location: ItalyPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:48 pm ---- Good idea, thanks! BTW, no P codes with PPS2000...
Maybe one way round it is to fit a shorter belt bypassing the PAS pump. If the dodgy steering still continues with no power assistance then you know it's not a mechanical problem with the rack. It narrows it down slightly to a hydraulic problem.
There's a pressure sensor on the steering pipes. Does Planet Peugeot do more in depth scanning than a normal fault code reader? It might be able to see any surges in pressure.
Update: I was still in neutral without brakes; I steered from center to left with A LOT of juddering; then I steered from full left to full right without juddering.
Then from full right to full left: no juddering at all... I'm mad about this thing!
Either your pump is shaged, or V-belt slipping big style.
Simple.
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